Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Austin Leeds wrote: > Well, I suppose this would be an article better addressed to one of > the LEM groups for older Macs. > > Thanks for your input, > FFF And you tried to Hijack a thread ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
Well, I suppose this would be an article better addressed to one of the LEM groups for older Macs. Thanks for your input, FFF On Feb 26, 10:12 am, Austin Leeds wrote: > I had a somewhat nerdy thought the other day about getting some old > Mac hardware. I have MacTracker, a great little piece of freeware that > contains all the vital stats about almost every piece of Apple > hardware and software ever made, as well as some pictures, and the > startup chime and chimes of death for each. If I were going to look > for something that would be economical to use as a small word > processing desktop, with the possibility of wireless access through > the Ethernet port (WDS with a couple of AirPort Extreme Base > Stations), for printing, what would you recommend? > > On Feb 26, 10:05 am, James Therrault wrote: > > > On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote: > > > >> The old Mac II extended keyboards were very good. But they were > > >> of course ADB. I still have a couple of those somewhere... > > > > Look for a Griffin iMate ADB-USB adapter if you want to use one on > > > your Mac. > > > Thanks Bruce... I may just do that. One for my desktop and the > > other for an old Power Computing 604. Who knows, I might even look > > for an ol' Quadra 700! > > > JT > > > > > Love Spell > > Click here to light up your life with a love > > spell!http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=dgYRjZxC50tdkbljRBLZ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Connector identification assistance IN SPADES !
On 2/26/10 7:30 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 26, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This is a keeper. http://sonic840.deviantart.com/art/Computer-hardware-poster-1-7-111402099 http://sonic840.deviantart.com/art/Computer-hardware-poster-1-7-111402099 AWESOME! Great find, Wallace! Got a tabloid-sized copy coming out for the repair bench right now. It even has the proper designation for the DB, DA and DE connectors... Amazing. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
TO THE LIST: I apologize if any of you find the following offensive, it is only directed at this idiot, who has resorted to a form of personal attack. TO JONAS LOPEZ: Right... Since you are obviously not a serious poster, and are instead an offensive dolt who obviously has not realised that he should not be let near a computer due to severe lack of mental control. We are attempting to HELP you in regards to your question. We all answered you, so I thought I would bring the answers to your level. Maybe this didnt enter your skull. I can also happily say I havent lived through the last 30 years, since Im not 30. You are an unstable idiot, who seems to think that sexual innuendos have a place on this list. They dont. This is a list for help with computers, not help with your issues, whatever they may be. I also find your "commentary" stupid in that its a personal attack. If you had an education beyond Grade 2 (I believe its called in the US) and the emotional maturity of somebody over the age of 12 I wouldnt be writing this as you mightve grasped the help we all gave you many hours ago. For the love of this list, please dont bother responding, and dont do this again. Chris On 26 Feb 2010, at 19:25, Jonas Lopez wrote: > You have MADE MY DAY (LOLOTF) --- SEE IN CAPS BELOW: > >> From: Christopher Clarke >> Subject: Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety >> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 11:04 AM >> Okay Okay... Calm Down. > > I AM VERY CALM. (FOR A 75 YEAR OLD, I HAVE A 50 YEAR OLD BODY) > > By the looks >> of things you're obviously uneducated when it comes to >> computers and shouldn't be attempting any kind of virus >> removal. > > NO QUESTION OF REMOVAL HAS BEEN MADE AND ... > >> The Ethernet connection CANNOT store anything, its like >> saying the a virus could be transferred through the >> Telephone. > > YEA, YEA, YOU FINALLY GOT IT, GOOD FOR YOU. > > Ethernet is similar, it is only a wire, and no >> data can "live" inside it. Ethernet Networks ARE NOT >> STORAGE DEVICES and THERE IS NO WAY for the virus to remain >> "in" a cable. > > I ADMIT TO NOT BEING A VIRUS HUNTER, BUT WE ALL KNOW FROM THE EXPERIENCES OF > THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT WHAT WE ALL THOUGHT WE KNEW TURNED OUT TO NOT > NECESSARILY BE TRUE. > > A computer virus and a human virus are 100% >> different things. Totally different. Its like comparing a >> Car and a Wet Fish - totally pointless. > > I WILL REFRAIN FROM COMMENTARY HERE BECAUSE THE MENU TODAY IS FISH. > > AS ALWAYS, WITH love and respect from San Diego. > >> Chris. >> On 26 Feb 2010, at 18:43, Jonas Lopez wrote: >> >>> If that is wrong, please educate me Well at the >> risk of madness, that is NOT THE QUESTION let alone the >> answer >>> >>> Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my >> Ethernet connection - notice this does NOT ask the question >> of entering the other box, just the Ethernet connection - >> keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS THE >> SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as >> to have one of them on the suspected machine, it could go >> into my Ethernet via this connection - this is the question? >> >>> >>> We would all hope it would not find fertile ground in >> this Mac, since it does not have Intel processors, so it >> should be dead on arrival in my machine. >>> >>> It is based upon my study of biology and all them bugs >> we call viruses. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HP ScanJet 7490c issues
On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Dan wrote: I downloaded the "latest" software from HP, for this scanner. PrecisionScan 3.3. Seems to work well, very fast, etc. BUT the daemon that watches the buttons on scanner's front panel has a BAD memory leak. It sits there chewing up memory until the VM size grows to about 1.5 GB, then it takes the Mac to its knees, then the whole system freezes. Googled around, saw this is a known problem - soln is to kill that daemon. But that leaves the scanner's front panel unusable. I also have other HP scanners, different models but mostly of the same time frame, that I need to get working. Is there a version of PrecisionScan, newer than 3.3, that supports these older scanners, but doesn't come with the handy dandy hemorrhage? Been googling around, and perusing hp's site, but so far found nada. I've looked and looked without result too. In my case they just went and bought a newer scanner for the Macs and relegated the HP to a PeeCee, but my next choice was to write a little daemon myself that 'kill -HUP' ed the HP daemon on a regular basis. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
You have MADE MY DAY (LOLOTF) --- SEE IN CAPS BELOW: > From: Christopher Clarke > Subject: Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 11:04 AM > Okay Okay... Calm Down. I AM VERY CALM. (FOR A 75 YEAR OLD, I HAVE A 50 YEAR OLD BODY) By the looks > of things you're obviously uneducated when it comes to > computers and shouldn't be attempting any kind of virus > removal. NO QUESTION OF REMOVAL HAS BEEN MADE AND ... > The Ethernet connection CANNOT store anything, its like > saying the a virus could be transferred through the > Telephone. YEA, YEA, YOU FINALLY GOT IT, GOOD FOR YOU. Ethernet is similar, it is only a wire, and no > data can "live" inside it. Ethernet Networks ARE NOT > STORAGE DEVICES and THERE IS NO WAY for the virus to remain > "in" a cable. I ADMIT TO NOT BEING A VIRUS HUNTER, BUT WE ALL KNOW FROM THE EXPERIENCES OF THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT WHAT WE ALL THOUGHT WE KNEW TURNED OUT TO NOT NECESSARILY BE TRUE. A computer virus and a human virus are 100% > different things. Totally different. Its like comparing a > Car and a Wet Fish - totally pointless. I WILL REFRAIN FROM COMMENTARY HERE BECAUSE THE MENU TODAY IS FISH. AS ALWAYS, WITH love and respect from San Diego. > Chris. > On 26 Feb 2010, at 18:43, Jonas Lopez wrote: > > > If that is wrong, please educate me Well at the > risk of madness, that is NOT THE QUESTION let alone the > answer > > > > Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my > Ethernet connection - notice this does NOT ask the question > of entering the other box, just the Ethernet connection - > keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS THE > SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as > to have one of them on the suspected machine, it could go > into my Ethernet via this connection - this is the question? > > > > > We would all hope it would not find fertile ground in > this Mac, since it does not have Intel processors, so it > should be dead on arrival in my machine. > > > > It is based upon my study of biology and all them bugs > we call viruses. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Gordon Stevens > wrote: > > > >> From: Gordon Stevens > >> Subject: Re: Question of contamination: virus > defense, safety > >> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > >> Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 9:51 AM > >> At the risk of displaying my absolute > >> ignorance, I would say that Macs with G3, G4 or G5 > cpus are > >> VERY low risk of virus. Most virus programs > run on > >> Intel processors and live in DOS/Windows > environments. > >> Most virus programs are tiny and so not very > smart. > >> Thus they probably won't be a problem for you. > >> > >> If that is wrong, please educate me. > >> > >> On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: > >> > >>> Question of contamination: virus defense, > safety > >>> > >>> I have been asked to take a look at a computer > that is > >> suspected to have a virus problem. Obviously, if > there is no > >> intercourse between this computer and my Mac G4, > then no > >> potential issues would exist and I have safety to > take a > >> look see. > >>> > >>> BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the > questionable > >> computer to the same Ethernet connection for > access to the > >> internet! Is there any defense for the ethernet > connection > >> or is this just a foolish question of potential > >> contamination? > >>> > >>> QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or > the house > >> ethernet with this possible connection that > provides an > >> access point for a virus of unknown existence and > threat? > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> JML > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are a member of > G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs > - with a particular focus on Power Macs. > > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of > G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs > - with a particular focus on Power Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email
HP ScanJet 7490c issues
300-MHz PowerMac G3, 1.5-GHz PowerBook G4, Mac OS X 10.4.11, fully updated. HP ScanJet 7490c, connected via USB. I downloaded the "latest" software from HP, for this scanner. PrecisionScan 3.3. Seems to work well, very fast, etc. BUT the daemon that watches the buttons on scanner's front panel has a BAD memory leak. It sits there chewing up memory until the VM size grows to about 1.5 GB, then it takes the Mac to its knees, then the whole system freezes. Googled around, saw this is a known problem - soln is to kill that daemon. But that leaves the scanner's front panel unusable. I also have other HP scanners, different models but mostly of the same time frame, that I need to get working. Is there a version of PrecisionScan, newer than 3.3, that supports these older scanners, but doesn't come with the handy dandy hemorrhage? Been googling around, and perusing hp's site, but so far found nada. Thanks, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ethernet connection not recognized in PowerMac G5
On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Clark Martin wrote: What's happening, I think, is that your router and your Mac aren't properly establishing connections. Which is odd as this part of networking has gotten pretty stable. In my experience this only happens nowadays with a failing switch port in the phone closet or the computer. IN his case it's the DSL router and the computer. Remotely, it might be a flaky ethernet cable. I can't remember if he's tried this. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my Ethernet connection - notice this does NOT ask the question of entering the other box, just the Ethernet connection - keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS THE SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as to have one of them on the suspected machine, it could go into my Ethernet via this connection - this is the question? No. "ethernet" is not capable of getting a computer virus. A computer virus is just a program. No more, no less. It's what it does is what makes it a "virus" rather than, say, Photoshop, or the Apache web server, or a device driver. Viruses DO NOT CROSS OS barriers. There is no such thing as a "Intel" or "PPC" virus. There are only programs, that run on specific operating systems. Even if the virus is written in CPU-specific machine code, it still must interact with operating system components to do it's work. A PC cannot give a Mac a virus and vice versa. Modern PC viruses rely on user interaction to infect systems, most of the time. There is malware that can be gotten via hitting infected web sites, but most often they're transmitted these days as bogus files, like 'Electronic Greeting Cards' or ZIP attachments claiming that they're bounced mails, or infected Acrobat files. Any Mac viruses will be transmitted in the same fashion, the only current 'in the wild' Mac trojans out there are presented as a 'new video codec' you need to watch the free video (99.999% of the time it's advertised as particularly juicy porn) or pirated copies of MS Office. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
On Feb 26, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Christopher Clarke wrote: Okay Okay... Calm Down. By the looks of things youre obviously uneducated when it comes to computers and shouldnt be attempting any kind of virus removal. The Ethernet connection CANNOT store anything, its like saying the a virus could be transfered through the Telephone. Ethernet is similar, it is only a wire, and no data can "live" inside it. Ethernet Networks ARE NOT STORAGE DEVICES and THERE IS NO WAY for the virus to remain "in" a cable. A computer virus and a human virus are 100% different things. Totally different. Its like comparing a Car and a Wet Fish - totally pointless. And it has nothing to do with "intercourse", or sex. I believe an attachment to an e-mail, or something on a downloaded file, could have a virus application, but you'd have to give it permission to act out ... give it your Admin Password, and say "Go Ahead" ... and even then, I'm not so sure OS X would allow it to reek havoc ... Windows machines, yes ... but not OS X ones. And like I said, it has nothing to do with sex. The analogy might be fun for some, but I have always found it offensive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
Actually, there is memory in the ethernet switch. But, like a G-3-5 Mac, it does not have the correct library files for the virus to do any damage. Jonas, take a pill, dude. EVERYONE who has responded to your question so far, including me, has answered the question you asked. You may not have understood what they said. That isn't their fault. Since you didn't see fit to explain what the infected computer was, we assume it is a windows pc. Just because Mac now uses Intel chips does not mean they are at risk of windows directed viruses. It is the operating system which is the key component in the equation. The only computers at risk on your network will be windows pcs. Nothing else. Relax. I think this issue has been discussed on this forum every two or three months so this is not the first time we have talked about this. Be at peace, people. Dennis in Victoria Christopher Clarke wrote: Okay Okay... Calm Down. By the looks of things youre obviously uneducated when it comes to computers and shouldnt be attempting any kind of virus removal. The Ethernet connection CANNOT store anything, its like saying the a virus could be transfered through the Telephone. Ethernet is similar, it is only a wire, and no data can "live" inside it. Ethernet Networks ARE NOT STORAGE DEVICES and THERE IS NO WAY for the virus to remain "in" a cable. A computer virus and a human virus are 100% different things. Totally different. Its like comparing a Car and a Wet Fish - totally pointless. Chris. On 26 Feb 2010, at 18:43, Jonas Lopez wrote: If that is wrong, please educate me Well at the risk of madness, that is NOT THE QUESTION let alone the answer Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my Ethernet connection - notice this does NOT ask the question of entering the other box, just the Ethernet connection - keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS THE SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as to have one of them on the suspected machine, it could go into my Ethernet via this connection - this is the question? We would all hope it would not find fertile ground in this Mac, since it does not have Intel processors, so it should be dead on arrival in my machine. It is based upon my study of biology and all them bugs we call viruses. 888-495-3400 Point Loma Credit Union --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Gordon Stevens wrote: From: Gordon Stevens Subject: Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 9:51 AM At the risk of displaying my absolute ignorance, I would say that Macs with G3, G4 or G5 cpus are VERY low risk of virus. Most virus programs run on Intel processors and live in DOS/Windows environments. Most virus programs are tiny and so not very smart. Thus they probably won't be a problem for you. If that is wrong, please educate me. On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety I have been asked to take a look at a computer that is suspected to have a virus problem. Obviously, if there is no intercourse between this computer and my Mac G4, then no potential issues would exist and I have safety to take a look see. BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the questionable computer to the same Ethernet connection for access to the internet! Is there any defense for the ethernet connection or is this just a foolish question of potential contamination? QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or the house ethernet with this possible connection that provides an access point for a virus of unknown existence and threat? Thanks. JML -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
Boy, do I long for the days where this list would require bottom posting. On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or the house ethernet with this possible connection that provides an access point for a virus of unknown existence and threat? Thanks. JML --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Gordon Stevens wrote: At the risk of displaying my absolute ignorance, I would say that Macs with G3, G4 or G5 cpus are VERY low risk of virus. Most virus programs run on Intel processors and live in DOS/Windows environments. Most virus programs are tiny and so not very smart. Thus they probably won't be a problem for you. If that is wrong, please educate me.. On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my Ethernet connection - notice this does NOT ask the question of entering the other box, just the Ethernet connection - keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS THE SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as to have one of them on the suspected machine, it could go into my Ethernet via this connection - this is the question? We would all hope it would not find fertile ground in this Mac, since it does not have Intel processors, so it should be dead on arrival in my machine. Viruses and malware are programs that run under an operating system (windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc). They do not run on the network transport protocol (ethernet). So they can not infect a your Mac just by plugging into the same router. AFAIK, there are no cross platform viruses or malware. In addition, all existing malware for the Mac (there are a couple of proof of concepts out there and one adult material viewer) REQUIRE an administrator password to be typed to allow installation. So, basically, since this is a Mac list and we are only dealing with Macintosh computers, as long as you do not download, install and give your administrator password to it, there is no risk of infection. There are no know self propagating viruses or malware that infect Macs. If you are worried about it infecting pcs on the network, that is off topic on this list. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
Okay Okay... Calm Down. By the looks of things youre obviously uneducated when it comes to computers and shouldnt be attempting any kind of virus removal. The Ethernet connection CANNOT store anything, its like saying the a virus could be transfered through the Telephone. Ethernet is similar, it is only a wire, and no data can "live" inside it. Ethernet Networks ARE NOT STORAGE DEVICES and THERE IS NO WAY for the virus to remain "in" a cable. A computer virus and a human virus are 100% different things. Totally different. Its like comparing a Car and a Wet Fish - totally pointless. Chris. On 26 Feb 2010, at 18:43, Jonas Lopez wrote: > If that is wrong, please educate me Well at the risk of madness, that is > NOT THE QUESTION let alone the answer > > Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my Ethernet connection - > notice this does NOT ask the question of entering the other box, just the > Ethernet connection - keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS > THE SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as to have one > of them on the suspected machine, it could go into my Ethernet via this > connection - this is the question? > > We would all hope it would not find fertile ground in this Mac, since it does > not have Intel processors, so it should be dead on arrival in my machine. > > It is based upon my study of biology and all them bugs we call viruses. > 888-495-3400 Point Loma Credit Union > > > --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Gordon Stevens wrote: > >> From: Gordon Stevens >> Subject: Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety >> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com >> Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 9:51 AM >> At the risk of displaying my absolute >> ignorance, I would say that Macs with G3, G4 or G5 cpus are >> VERY low risk of virus. Most virus programs run on >> Intel processors and live in DOS/Windows environments. >> Most virus programs are tiny and so not very smart. >> Thus they probably won't be a problem for you. >> >> If that is wrong, please educate me. >> >> On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: >> >>> Question of contamination: virus defense, safety >>> >>> I have been asked to take a look at a computer that is >> suspected to have a virus problem. Obviously, if there is no >> intercourse between this computer and my Mac G4, then no >> potential issues would exist and I have safety to take a >> look see. >>> >>> BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the questionable >> computer to the same Ethernet connection for access to the >> internet! Is there any defense for the ethernet connection >> or is this just a foolish question of potential >> contamination? >>> >>> QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or the house >> ethernet with this possible connection that provides an >> access point for a virus of unknown existence and threat? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> JML > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
If that is wrong, please educate me Well at the risk of madness, that is NOT THE QUESTION let alone the answer Will a suspected infection virus be able to enter my Ethernet connection - notice this does NOT ask the question of entering the other box, just the Ethernet connection - keeping in mind the reasoning here: since Ethernet IS THE SAME FOR ALL MACHINES, and IF I happen to be so un lucky as to have one of them on the suspected machine, it could go into my Ethernet via this connection - this is the question? We would all hope it would not find fertile ground in this Mac, since it does not have Intel processors, so it should be dead on arrival in my machine. It is based upon my study of biology and all them bugs we call viruses. 888-495-3400 Point Loma Credit Union --- On Fri, 2/26/10, Gordon Stevens wrote: > From: Gordon Stevens > Subject: Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 9:51 AM > At the risk of displaying my absolute > ignorance, I would say that Macs with G3, G4 or G5 cpus are > VERY low risk of virus. Most virus programs run on > Intel processors and live in DOS/Windows environments. > Most virus programs are tiny and so not very smart. > Thus they probably won't be a problem for you. > > If that is wrong, please educate me. > > On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: > > > Question of contamination: virus defense, safety > > > > I have been asked to take a look at a computer that is > suspected to have a virus problem. Obviously, if there is no > intercourse between this computer and my Mac G4, then no > potential issues would exist and I have safety to take a > look see. > > > > BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the questionable > computer to the same Ethernet connection for access to the > internet! Is there any defense for the ethernet connection > or is this just a foolish question of potential > contamination? > > > > QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or the house > ethernet with this possible connection that provides an > access point for a virus of unknown existence and threat? > > > > Thanks. > > JML -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ethernet connection not recognized in PowerMac G5
On 2/26/10 8:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: "mDNSResponder: NOTE: Wide-Area Service Discovery disabled to avoid crashing defective DNS relay 192.168.1.1." Bonjour has been turned off. Only a part of Bonjour. Originally Bonjour (Rendezvous) only located machines on the IP subnet it was on. But at some point the ability to scan selected subnets elsewhere was added. This message sounds like the latter. I suspect because the router doesn't support it or doesn't support it correctly. The system.log reads as follows: Feb 25 23:17:34 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet - en0 link active, 100-Mbit, full duplex, flow control disabled Your ethernet port has talked to the router. Flow Control disabled may be a clue here, we might be having a problem with handshaking between the router and the Mac. Feb 25 23:17:54 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet: 0 4 setupCopperPhy - link is down NOw the link is disconnected, a good indicator of the above. Both the Bonjour and flow control messages may simply be an indication that the link went down for whatever cause. What's happening, I think, is that your router and your Mac aren't properly establishing connections. Which is odd as this part of networking has gotten pretty stable. Unfortunately, the standard method of diagnosing these issues is to plug either a known-good computer into the router or the computer into a known-good router, and seeing which combination works or not. Try plugging the computer into each LAN port of the router, checking the log if needed. It's possible just the one port is caca. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
At the risk of displaying my absolute ignorance, I would say that Macs with G3, G4 or G5 cpus are VERY low risk of virus. Most virus programs run on Intel processors and live in DOS/Windows environments. Most virus programs are tiny and so not very smart. Thus they probably won't be a problem for you. If that is wrong, please educate me. On Feb 26, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: > Question of contamination: virus defense, safety > > I have been asked to take a look at a computer that is suspected to have a > virus problem. Obviously, if there is no intercourse between this computer > and my Mac G4, then no potential issues would exist and I have safety to take > a look see. > > BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the questionable computer to the same > Ethernet connection for access to the internet! Is there any defense for the > ethernet connection or is this just a foolish question of potential > contamination? > > QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or the house ethernet with this > possible connection that provides an access point for a virus of unknown > existence and threat? > > Thanks. > JML > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: AirPort card for PowerMac G5 (dual 2.3GHz)
> This card is a PCI card, and I believe his Late 2005 PowerMac G5 only > has PCIe slots, so he'll need a PCIe card AFAIK. Then maybe an adapter like this might work with an Airport Extreme or other 3rd party mini-PCIe card? http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/MP1.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
On Feb 26, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Question of contamination: virus defense, safety Short answer: No. Viruses don't work that way, and haven't in years. I have been asked to take a look at a computer that is suspected to have a virus problem. Obviously, if there is no intercourse between this computer and my Mac G4, then no potential issues would exist and I have safety to take a look see. Is this computer a Mac? If so then it almost certainly does NOT have a virus. There are a handful of trojans in the wild for OS X, but no more. BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the questionable computer to the same Ethernet connection for access to the internet! Is there any defense for the ethernet connection or is this just a foolish question of potential contamination? Almost all modern viruses/trojans/malware requires some sort of user interaction to infect computers..there are some Windows exploits that do not require user interaction, but no Mac exploit like that exists. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Question of contamination: virus defense, safety
Question of contamination: virus defense, safety I have been asked to take a look at a computer that is suspected to have a virus problem. Obviously, if there is no intercourse between this computer and my Mac G4, then no potential issues would exist and I have safety to take a look see. BUT, suppose I connect the Mac and the questionable computer to the same Ethernet connection for access to the internet! Is there any defense for the ethernet connection or is this just a foolish question of potential contamination? QUESTION: Do I run any risk to my Mac and or the house ethernet with this possible connection that provides an access point for a virus of unknown existence and threat? Thanks. JML -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
I had a somewhat nerdy thought the other day about getting some old Mac hardware. I have MacTracker, a great little piece of freeware that contains all the vital stats about almost every piece of Apple hardware and software ever made, as well as some pictures, and the startup chime and chimes of death for each. If I were going to look for something that would be economical to use as a small word processing desktop, with the possibility of wireless access through the Ethernet port (WDS with a couple of AirPort Extreme Base Stations), for printing, what would you recommend? On Feb 26, 10:05 am, James Therrault wrote: > On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote: > > >> The old Mac II extended keyboards were very good. But they were > >> of course ADB. I still have a couple of those somewhere... > > > Look for a Griffin iMate ADB-USB adapter if you want to use one on > > your Mac. > > Thanks Bruce... I may just do that. One for my desktop and the > other for an old Power Computing 604. Who knows, I might even look > for an ol' Quadra 700! > > JT > > > Love Spell > Click here to light up your life with a love > spell!http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=dgYRjZxC50tdkbljRBLZ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ethernet connection not recognized in PowerMac G5
On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Goody2 wrote: The console.log shows (quotation marks added): "WirelessAttach: getInterfaceWithName failed"This line repeats about twenty times, then It's polling for a WiFi adapter. "mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 (192.168.1.46); delaying packets by 5 seconds" en0 is your ethernet port, here it has an address, although it may "mDNSResponder: NOTE: Wide-Area Service Discovery disabled to avoid crashing defective DNS relay 192.168.1.1." Bonjour has been turned off. The system.log reads as follows: Feb 25 23:17:34 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet - en0 link active, 100-Mbit, full duplex, flow control disabled Your ethernet port has talked to the router. Flow Control disabled may be a clue here, we might be having a problem with handshaking between the router and the Mac. Feb 25 23:17:54 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet:04 setupCopperPhy - link is down NOw the link is disconnected, a good indicator of the above. Feb 25 23:17:57 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 configd[38]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change The lis a log entry noting the posting of a log entry , courtesy of the Department of Redundancy Department's crack team of crack-addled programmers :-) Feb 25 23:18:00 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 lookupd[792]: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Thu Feb 25 23:18:00 2010 What's happening, I think, is that your router and your Mac aren't properly establishing connections. Unfortunately, the standard method of diagnosing these issues is to plug either a known-good computer into the router or the computer into a known-good router, and seeing which combination works or not. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
Yes, I mentioned Matias' Tactile Pro above. Alas, my funds are a bit low to be buying a keyboard that nice (I'm really shooting to get an iPad when they come out). The Yamaha Clavinovas are probably the best-designed electric keyboards ever made. The real levers and hammers make me feel like I'm playing a real piano. As to sound, with the built-in speaker, quality is OK, but put on headphones or run them through an amp, and there's no real noticeable difference between a real piano and a Clavinova. I was a bit surprised when I put headphones on for the first time with one of these things—I thought they weren't working because the sound was so balanced, natural, and lifelike. Only after I took them off and tried playing again did I realize that the sound was coming through the headphones. If the AEK and Model M are as close to typing perfection as a Clavinova is, I'll be in typist heaven. On Feb 25, 10:15 pm, Kasey Smith wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Austin Leeds > > wrote: > > So, my question is, are there any of you out there that use > > keyboards in the caliber of the Apple Extended Keyboard and the IBM > > Model M? How do you like them, and would they be worth carrying around > > (with a USB adapter, of course)? > > Someone just posted this in another > thread:http://matias.ca/tactilepro/index.php > Also, Clarinovas are awesome, our school has one and it sounds so real! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
On Feb 26, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote: The old Mac II extended keyboards were very good. But they were of course ADB. I still have a couple of those somewhere... Look for a Griffin iMate ADB-USB adapter if you want to use one on your Mac. Thanks Bruce... I may just do that. One for my desktop and the other for an old Power Computing 604. Who knows, I might even look for an ol' Quadra 700! JT Love Spell Click here to light up your life with a love spell! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=dgYRjZxC50tdkbljRBLZQgAAJ1Hoq79FjCQ74OFkFSWhCpbyAAYAAADNRwA= -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ethernet connection not recognized in PowerMac G5
On Feb 25, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Eric Volker wrote: The problem occurs with both Ethernet ports, and when I created a New Location. I'm a bit confused - does your Powermac G5 actually have two ethernet ports? To the best of my knowledge they normally only shipped with one. Unless, of course, you've added a port. Several models did. All four of the G5's I know of here have two. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Connector identification assistance IN SPADES !
On Feb 26, 2010, at 12:54 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: This is a keeper. http://sonic840.deviantart.com/art/Computer-hardware-poster-1-7-111402099 http://sonic840.deviantart.com/art/Computer-hardware-poster-1-7-111402099 AWESOME! Great find, Wallace! Got a tabloid-sized copy coming out for the repair bench right now. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Heavy duty, feels-good keyboard for typist with a vengeance
On Feb 25, 2010, at 4:44 PM, James Therrault wrote: The old Mac II extended keyboards were very good. But they were of course ADB. I still have a couple of those somewhere... Look for a Griffin iMate ADB-USB adapter if you want to use one on your Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ethernet connection not recognized in PowerMac G5
On Feb 25, 9:56 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Eric Volker wrote: > > > I'm a bit confused - does your Powermac G5 actually have two > > ethernet ports? To the best of my knowledge they normally only > > shipped with one. > > I was confused too. The Late 2005 G5 is very different than my Early > 2005. The Late 2005 came with two built-in ethernet ports according to > MacTracker. Thanks to all for the feedback. FIRST, to clarify: The G5 is a late 2005 model (Dual Core 2.3GHz). It has two built-in Ethernet ports. SECOND, I checked the console.log and system.log. Hopefully, the following will provide a clue: The console.log shows (quotation marks added): "WirelessAttach: getInterfaceWithName failed"This line repeats about twenty times, then "mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 (192.168.1.46); delaying packets by 5 seconds" "mDNSResponder: NOTE: Wide-Area Service Discovery disabled to avoid crashing defective DNS relay 192.168.1.1." The system.log reads as follows: Feb 25 23:17:34 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet - en0 link active, 100-Mbit, full duplex, flow control disabled Feb 25 23:17:54 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 kernel[0]: AppleBCM5701Ethernet:04 setupCopperPhy - link is down Feb 25 23:17:57 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 configd[38]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change Feb 25 23:18:00 Herbert-Goodfriends-Power-Mac-G5 lookupd[792]: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Thu Feb 25 23:18:00 2010 THIRD, I plugged the Ethernet cable into another computer (PowerMac G4 MDD 2003, also running 10.4.11) and there was no problem mainaining the connection. The console.log reads similarly: lookupd (version 369.8) starting - Fri Feb 26 09:38:56 2010 Feb 26 09:39:08 Herbert-Goodfriends-MDD mDNSResponder: NOTE: Wide-Area Service Discovery disabled to avoid crashing defective DNS relay 192.168.1.1. Feb 26 09:39:09 Herbert-Goodfriends-MDD configd[38]: target=enable- network: disabled There was nothing in the system.log that seemed relevant. Again, thanks in advance for any suggestions. Herb Goodfriend -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: When Macs go evil
Bequette Jeff jbeque...@tconl.com On Feb 25, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:16 AM + 2/25/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Bequette Jeff wrote: I was going to mention Rush. I remember him extolling the virtues of Powerbooks what back in 1990 when they first came out... Always thought Rush using Mac's was a good thing-now if I convert him to bicycle commuting. And a job as an aide in a Nursing home. Oh, skip that he would probably be one of those " dark angel " types trying to euthenize the residents. All the res!dents! Does Limbaugh use/have Macs on his set? Many tv "personalities" are propped up by their, um, props. How much more evil would he be if he had no Mac? Saw a ruby iMac G3 on a zombie movie last night. he has used Mac's for years, reportedly the only Windoze machine is the one Bo Snerdly (call screener) uses. I think instead of "When Macs go evil" it should be "When Macs go Right!" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
