Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

2010-10-19 Thread Ted Treen
From: R 2 gpride1...@gmail.com

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Subject: Just purchased used g5 mac


Hello all-
I just bought a used g 5 mac!  It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this 
mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each. Is 
this a good machine-reliable?  Any known issues besides capacitors on 
motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what 
improvements would be best. Has no OS disk-should I purchase Leopard or Tiger 
disks. Got it cheap and love the aluminum, full tower case, but it's a beast to 
lift. Please educate about this neat mac.
Previous macs:mac mini, mac book, emac, imac and adored them all!
 
Thanks!  Love the macs!
Lambert Z



Nice Mac. I have an early 2005 dual 2.0, which I've only just let  best-beloved 
have, as I bought an ex-demo 2009 MacPro - only bought as  it is essential that 
I run CS5.

The G5 could do with more memory, and it will run Leopard sweetly. Mine has 
10.5.8 - no problems.

See it's full specs at everymac.com

The biggest bugbear (IMHO) with G5 Macs is the possibility of leakage in 
liquid-cooled Macs - don't worry, yours isn't liquid-cooled.  


Unless you suddenly develop an urgent need to run the latest versions of 
commercial software (e.g. Adobe Creative Suite) your G5 will keep you happy for 
quite some time.

Enjoy.

Ted

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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

2010-10-19 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/10/18 21:57, R 2 so eloquently wrote:

I just bought a used g 5 mac!


Congratulations!


It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's
this mean)


Nothing much, just a unique identifier Apple assigns.


with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250
GB each. Is this a good machine-reliable?


I think so, I (likely) have the same machine and I'm quite happy with it 
except for Flash performance on certain sites such as Hulu.



Any known issues besides
capacitors on motherboard?


I think that was a G5 iMac issue, I've not heard of it on the Power 
Macs. The fans can get very loud doing certain maintenance routines or 
in the case of a kernel panic and with the volume of air they move it 
collects a lot of dust inside. I can't really think of anything else.



Seems reasonably fast even by today's
standards, but what improvements would be best.


I would recommend more RAM, I've maxed mine out at 8GB but you don't 
have to do that. 4 GB should work well depending on what you use it for. 
Just remember to install the RAM in identical pairs, no mix  match 
(they have to match each other, not necessarily the existing RAM).


Also you may consider a video card upgrade depending on which card you 
have. But if the existing card works for your needs than don't bother.


Has no OS disk-should I

purchase Leopard or Tiger disks.


Completely up to you. I prefer Tiger for reliability but there is a lot 
of software that won't run on 10.4, and Apple has stopped supporting it 
which means no more security updates. Leopard has it's quirks but it is 
feature rich and snark allegedly still supported by Apple./snark


Above all, enjoy your new Mac!

Tina

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MDD G4 Power Supply Repair

2010-10-19 Thread James Morgan
	Since the issue of MDD G4 power supply problems has been discussed  
on this forum I wanted to report on my experience. I had power supply  
failures in both my dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's. Symptoms were occasional  
failure to start progressing to more start failures and then to the  
computer quitting while it was running. Pushing the start button on  
the front resulted in a light that went out with no start.


	After considering several options I decided to take the power supply  
out of both computers and send them to National Ram Electronics at  
Alpine New York for repair.  They charge $89.00 for repair. Cost  me  
about $14.00 to ship the 2 power supplys and they paid the return  
shipping. They have a one year replacement warranty. They also sell a  
reconditioned power supply for $149.00.


	I got a fast turnaround and both units are back in the G4's and  
working good as new.


	Used G4 power supply units go for about $100. on eBay and there is  
the risk that a used one is nearing it's failure date.


	I installed an extra fan in both G4's because this computer was  
designed to move lots of air and, responding to complaints, Apple  
came out with a firmware update that slowed the fans down.  I'd  
rather have a little extra noise than overheating.


	Both the 400 watt and the 360 watt power supplies will work in any  
MDD G4. I have one of each, they are both 24 pin, and I don't see any  
difference in them.


Here is the link to the National Ram Electronics repair website:

http://www.natramelec.com/

James Morgan



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Re: MDD G4 Power Supply Repair

2010-10-19 Thread Peter Haas


On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:29 AM, James Morgan wrote:

... After considering several options I decided to take the power  
supply out of both computers and send them to National Ram  
Electronics at Alpine New York for repair.  They charge $89.00 for  
repair. Cost  me about $14.00 to ship the 2 power supplys and they  
paid the return shipping. ...


PSUs are generally considered to be non-repairable.

The main issue is the extra-high voltage present within the housing,  
about 325 volts with considerable current behind it thanks to the  
(usually) two large converter filter caps.


There is a converter (simple) and one or more inverters/regulators  
(complex) in a PSU.


If, as is common, the failure is in the converter, replacing the  
diodes and the capacitors often cures the problem.


If, as is uncommon, the failure is in the inverter, there is no easy  
way to fix these subsystems except techniques which are far beyond  
even an experienced PC/Mac technician.


It is a fact that ONE Mac employed a generic PC PSU: the Beige G3  
Mini-Tower, for which installation of a generic PC PSU is possible.


The DT and AIO versions of the Beige G3, however, employed a  
proprietary Apple PSU.


For this purpose, the Beige G3 motherboard has a jumper block on it  
which selects generic PC mode or Apple PSU mode.


If all that is faulty is the PSU's fan, then this can be replaced by  
a generic fan of identical size and voltage (usually 12 volts dc).



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Re: MDD G4 Power Supply Repair

2010-10-19 Thread Jeffrey Engle

On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:29 AM, James Morgan wrote:

   Since the issue of MDD G4 power supply problems has been discussed on 
 this forum I wanted to report on my experience. I had power supply failures 
 in both my dual 1.25 MHz MDD G4's. Symptoms were occasional failure to start 
 progressing to more start failures and then to the computer quitting while it 
 was running. Pushing the start button on the front resulted in a light that 
 went out with no start.
I've had the above problem happen when the CPU needed to be re-seated 
as well. Just because the MDD is doing this doesn't necessarily mean the it's 
power supply related although I am glad that in your case it proved to be 
true:-) 
 
   After considering several options I decided to take the power supply 
 out of both computers and send them to National Ram Electronics at Alpine New 
 York for repair.  They charge $89.00 for repair. Cost  me about $14.00 to 
 ship the 2 power supplys and they paid the return shipping. They have a one 
 year replacement warranty. They also sell a reconditioned power supply for 
 $149.00.
 
   I got a fast turnaround and both units are back in the G4's and working 
 good as new.
 
   Used G4 power supply units go for about $100. on eBay and there is the 
 risk that a used one is nearing it's failure date.
I've had several MDD's without power supply issues? so I can't confirm 
failure date... what I can confirm is that dust bunnies over time can wreck 
serious havoc giving shorter life to any power supply or for that matter, any 
computer period.
 
   I installed an extra fan in both G4's because this computer was 
 designed to move lots of air and, responding to complaints, Apple came out 
 with a firmware update that slowed the fans down.  I'd rather have a little 
 extra noise than overheating.
Hmm, this is news to me? I was aware that they sent out new fans (power 
supply  main fans), but not aware of the firmware updatehmm..
 
   Both the 400 watt and the 360 watt power supplies will work in any MDD 
 G4. I have one of each, they are both 24 pin, and I don't see any difference 
 in them.
 
   Here is the link to the National Ram Electronics repair website:
 
   http://www.natramelec.com/
Thanks for the above link! I may just need that when these guys get 
harder to find:-) Jeff
 
 James Morgan
 
 

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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

2010-10-19 Thread dc
On Oct 18, 11:57 pm, R 2 gpride1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all-
 I just bought a used g 5 mac!  It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this
 mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each.
 Is this a good machine-reliable?  Any known issues besides capacitors on
 motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what
 improvements would be best.
An AIrport Extreme card, 4-8 GB RAM and a better video card would be
nice for Leopard. A GeForce 6200 or, better yet, a 7800 converted from
PC to Mac ROM are good options. My G5 is a DP 1.8 with 4 GB RAM and a
GeForce 7800GT, it is a great machine.

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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

2010-10-19 Thread Dana Collins
On 10/19/10 9:18 AM, Ted Treen of ted.tr...@btinternet.com sent

 From: R 2 gpride1...@gmail.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010 4:57:07
 Subject: Just purchased used g5 mac
 
 Hello all-
 I just bought a used g 5 mac!  It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this
 mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each. Is
 this a good machine-reliable?  Any known issues besides capacitors on
 motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what
 improvements would be best. Has no OS disk-should I purchase Leopard or Tiger
 disks. Got it cheap and love the aluminum, full tower case, but it's a beast
 to lift. Please educate about this neat mac.
 Previous macs:mac mini, mac book, emac, imac and adored them all!
  
 Thanks!  Love the macs!
 Lambert Z
 
 
 
 Nice Mac. I have an early 2005 dual 2.0, which I've only just let best-beloved
 have, as I bought an ex-demo 2009 MacPro - only bought as it is essential that
 I run CS5.
 
 The G5 could do with more memory, and it will run Leopard sweetly. Mine has
 10.5.8 - no problems.
 
 See it's full specs at everymac.com
 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_2.0_dp_2.
 html 
 
 The biggest bugbear (IMHO) with G5 Macs is the possibility of leakage in
 liquid-cooled Macs - don't worry, yours isn't liquid-cooled.
 
 Unless you suddenly develop an urgent need to run the latest versions of
 commercial software (e.g. Adobe Creative Suite) your G5 will keep you happy
 for quite some time.
 
 Enjoy.
 
 Ted
 
Hello Lambert,
I agree with Ted ­ we have a late 2004 2Ghz/DP G5 Mac ­ has been serving as
a fileserver for our lab for 2 years straight, after it gave us 4 years as a
music production unit, rarely missed a beat. Our only problem with it was
that it has PCI-X slots and some of the music components had PCI cards that
were not flexible enough to be accommodated by the PCI-X slots. Other than
that, it has been super fine. I believe the unit can take 8 Gb of RAM ­ be
sure to buy your RAM in pairs, as the slots need to be upgraded thusly (one
RAM module for bank A and one for the lateral slot in bank B); can¹t do a
³one-at-a-time² routine like you could with the G3s and G4s.
HTH,
Dana

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Re: Just purchased used g5 mac

2010-10-19 Thread Jeff Bequette


On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:18 AM, Ted Treen wrote:


From: R 2 gpride1...@gmail.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010 4:57:07
Subject: Just purchased used g5 mac

Hello all-
I just bought a used g 5 mac!  It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3?  
(what's this mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2  
HDDs with 250 GB each. Is this a good machine-reliable?  Any known  
issues besides capacitors on motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even  
by today's standards, but what improvements would be best. Has no OS  
disk-should I purchase Leopard or Tiger disks. Got it cheap and love  
the aluminum, full tower case, but it's a beast to lift. Please  
educate about this neat mac.

Previous macs:mac mini, mac book, emac, imac and adored them all!

Thanks!  Love the macs!
Lambert Z




Nice Mac. I have an early 2005 dual 2.0, which I've only just let  
best-beloved have, as I bought an ex-demo 2009 MacPro - only bought  
as it is essential that I run CS5.


The G5 could do with more memory, and it will run Leopard sweetly.  
Mine has 10.5.8 - no problems.


See it's full specs at everymac.com

The biggest bugbear (IMHO) with G5 Macs is the possibility of  
leakage in liquid-cooled Macs - don't worry, yours isn't liquid- 
cooled.


Unless you suddenly develop an urgent need to run the latest  
versions of commercial software (e.g. Adobe Creative Suite) your G5  
will keep you happy for quite some time.


Enjoy.

Ted

Lepord is the way to go- can't run snow, but do max the ram. think  
8gb?







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2G pc3200 ram for G5 Xserve?

2010-10-19 Thread SyncroBeast
Picked up an ebay G5 Xserve capable of handling 2Gbyte pc3200 RAM
(DDR400), but can't find anyone listing the 2Gbyte RAM DIMMs
specifically for the G5 Xserve.  I do see server memory that is 2Gbyte
pc3200, but never listed for the G5 Xserve and sales typically don't
know what to say beyond glad to sell you 4Gbyte as 1Gbyte x 4.

I'd really like to max out at 16 Gbyte some day are the 2Gbyte
DIMMS really available/compatible with the G5 Xserve? or just a good
idea that never came to pass?

curious minds
Ch

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