Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 17 December, 2010 0:23:57 Subject: Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Tom wrote: Then I took off the 23 Cinema Display and hooked up a 15 one, but the result was the same: square clumps of pixels all over the monitor-- they seem to show up wherever you click the mouse--and I noticed that they have various colors on them, and some of them even have tiny bits of text on them. I believe they are actually little-bitty windows of some sort. I've had Macs since 1986, but I've never seen anything like this. I have, with a failing video card or a corrupted driver. If it does this in safe mode, and you've checked both Software update and ATI for updated drivers and firmware, yeah, it's time to look for a new card. As you've found, you need to make sure you get a card for the correct one. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group I had exactly the same symptoms with a 9800 in my G4. Returned to ATI for an exchange as it was still under warranty. They accepted that it had died prematurely. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
On Dec 17, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Tom wrote: Well, Bill, the first thing I did when this G5 arrived was to install two new 1 TB hard drives in it, and then I did a fresh install of Leopard on them, and finally I got online and used Software Update to take everything up to 10.5.8. It seems like if there was a driver for the ATI card inside Leopard, it should have been there, but obviously it wasn't. Still, I think it should have been ... although maybe the 9600 was a special case of some sort. All I can hope is that this donated driver continues to operate the card as well as it's doing right now. Things seem perfect at the moment, after several hours of using the Mac, (knocking on wood--my head). At least I know that it was the card, or rather the driver for the card, that was the culprit, and not the CPU or logic board or anything else big and expensive. Which means if worse came to worse, and the problem returned, a newer video card would cure it. Thanks for the help! Glad the solution was so simple and inexpensive. So which driver exactly did you get to freshen things up? I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Edition in my Digital Audio Dual 533, under 10.5.8. It seems to be functioning properly at present, but I was wondering if I could drive a 30 monitor with it awhile ago ... still curious ... the 30 had 2560x1600 IIRC. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Restoring mail in the mailboxes
On Dec 17, 12:43 am, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: Which means I have to take each full mailbox out of the Imports folder and replace the empty one with it, and there are so many mailboxes that it's going to be a lot of work. If this should happen again, what would be the correct way to get all the e-mails back into the original mailboxes, instead of creating a whole new set of mailboxes inside of a new Import mailbox? I've done it the manual way myself, and I doubt there is a better way. Maybe you could set up something with AppleScript or Automator, but in my case, it's easier to just move the boxes manually. You might try posting to the Apple Support forum for the OS X version that you are running: http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Restoring mail in the mailboxes
Greetings Tom If you have your disk, backed up you might try this procedure. 1st open all of your mailbox's using the triangle next to ON MY MAC then select the first mailbox, hold down the Shift Key and then select the last mailbox before the Imported mailbox. Then depress the Delete key, which should delete all of the selected mailboxes. If there are mailboxes below the Import Mailbox repeat the above for the remaining. Next open the Import mailbox using the triangle. Then select the first mailbox within the import, holding down the shift key and select the last one within the import. Next, using the left mouse button drag all of the selected mailboxes into the PN MY MAC folder. That should move all of those in the import into the 'ON MY MAC The problem with this procedure is that If you have mail in any of the mailboxes that was put there after the start of your loss will now be lost. Cheers Harry (`-''-/).___ ..- -''`.. _ ( 6_ 6 )`-.( ``-._.-`) (_Y_.)'._ ) `._ `.'``-..-' ` `_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' ,-'' ,' (((.-' fl On Dec 16, 9:43 pm, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: My daughter wanted to transfer something from a flash drive into my G5, but when she plugged it into the Mac, the screen froze and I had to force-quit it. (I found out subsequently that the flash drive had gone through the washing machine in the pocket of a shirt, so it was not in the greatest operating shape). Well, after a restart, Mail said that it had lost connection with all my stored e-mails (all the mailboxes were empty), and offered to restore them. I clicked OK, but shortly afterward it reported that getting the e-mails back into the mailboxes would take 14 hours, and then it got stuck. So I canceled that. Then I went to Mail File Import Mailboxes and navigated to the Home Library Mail Mail file to import from. But the result was that, instead of filling up all the empty mailboxes with the old mail, as I wanted, it created a new mailbox among the empty ones named Import, and inside of that mailbox were new copies of all the other mailboxes, all filled with the restored mail. So now I have all the original mailboxes, empty, plus a whole new set of full mailboxes inside the Imports mailbox. Which means I have to take each full mailbox out of the Imports folder and replace the empty one with it, and there are so many mailboxes that it's going to be a lot of work. If this should happen again, what would be the correct way to get all the e-mails back into the original mailboxes, instead of creating a whole new set of mailboxes inside of a new Import mailbox? Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
MS office '11
Has anyone figured out how to get entourage to work with this like it did in the last version. You know, where you pick out some pics, Entourage is set as your default email client, and you click send, pick a size and off you go. Currently it looks like only Apple's Mail client and Tumblr etc are available. -KH -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
Yeah, I don't know why the drivers for this rather common video card were left out of Leopard, but obviously they were. Somebody at Apple goofed? Ted, are you sure it was the card that was bad, or only the driver? Bill, I can e-mail you the two ATI drivers that the original owner of the G5 e-mailed to me, if you'd like to have them. Both were dated 2005, one from January and one from December. The newer one refused to install, but the older one installed itself just fine and the screen trouble was over. As I mentioned earlier, the video card (Radeon 9600) is now offering 19 different resolutions for the 23-inch Cinema Display, the highest one 1920 X 1200. I do believe that this card, with 256 MB of RAM, will run the Apple 30- inch display, because the previous owner says it does with no problem-- in fact it appears from his Ebay ad that he did it (see his description here: http://tinyurl.com/288ozte). I have his e-mail address and I suppose we could also confirm that with him. He seems pretty savvy about video cards and drivers. I sure like the look of those 30-inchers in the Apple Store, but who can afford them, even used? Merry Christmas! Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Example of using the logs to debug
I just went through a couple of days trying to install some software (but failing) and finally solved it so I figured I'd pass on some details of it in case it may help someone in a similar fix. I was trying to install XCode 2.5 on a PowerMac G4 MDD running Tiger (10.4.11). The software comes as a 1Gb disk image. I mounted the disk image and double clicked on the package ICON. After double clicking on it nothing happens, no app appears in the dock. I had just installed the software on a laptop and it worked without any problem. I tried it on a G4 QS that had an old copy of the MDD's disk (I'd replaced the G4 QS with the MDD hence the copy) and it had the same problem. I tried installing it from another account, same problem. Finally I checked the system log. It showed a problem with libperl.dylib. I tracked it down and found it inside /System/Library/Perl. I replaced the whole Perl folder from yet another G4 QS with a fairly pristine 10.4.11 install. I could have just replaced the one library file but I figured I'd replaced all of it. After copying it over I had to change the ownership and privileges. This worked and XCode 2.5 installed successfully. The point of the story is that while the log (any log) does not say THE PROBLEM IS HERE - but it will often provide a hint of the problem. This was a big deal for me as the next step would have been to do an Archive and Install of the OS. Aside from all the hassle of re-installing various applications I have some cross-development software on it that might be hard to determine just what needs to be installed to get it back to where it was. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Clamshell Won't boot off CD
You were right! I don't have a cleaning CD, but cleaned the eye with cotton and alcohol. It improved greatly. Not sure it's fixed, but that's for sure the problem. Thanks -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
