Re: MDD problem

2011-02-12 Thread Baha Ata
no... i dont think you burned out motherboard... CUDA is not burned out
motherboard. It is long story for my English.

Yes please test if you can your PSU before you got another one...

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:17 PM, yawg yaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Thanks for your comments and help.

 When I pressed the CUDA for a couple of times, about 10 to 20 seconds,
 there was no battery installed.

 I did this only after the normal CUDA procedure (5 sec. with battery)
 didn't work.

 How can I damage the motherboard without the battery? So it might be
 wasted money if I send my PSU in for repair? I have to get another
 MDD??

 Best regards, Jörg.

 On 12 feb, 05:23, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote:
  it is... sometimes... you may look 3 yellow capacitors on the board... i
  wish to have pictures... those are rectangle plactic cover yellow
  collored... not big, nor small... on the mainboard... look them. any
 burned
  out... generally first they burned out. on mainboard... look red light..
  generally if red light turns and those 3 of yellow covered mainboard is
 ok.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:45 PM, theleaddog tr...@yahoo.com wrote:
   On Feb 11, 3:54 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
   wrote:
On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:55 AM, yawg wrote:
 I removed all cards, put the video card back in, removed all RAM,
 put
 one RAM stick back in, removed all ATA cables exept for my startup
 disk, removed the battery, pushed the CUDA a couple of times for 20
 seconds, pushed the power button for 20 seconds, let the thing sit
 for
 half an hour or more, put the battery back in and voilá: no more
 bong,
 the light on the power button only stays lit as long as I push it,
 doesn't matter how long I push it ...
 So I managed to kill my MDD by following your suggestions?
 
Nope, now you know it's a bad power supply. I now remember going
   though that hassle with a professors MDD about 6 months ago and
   got the identical results. Replacing the PS fixed all the problems.
 
   Interesting. I had the same experience with a MDD DP 1.25 pre-2003
   ($1000 at the time). Replacing the PS didn't fix it. Took it to Apple
   store. Genius said the processor was shot. Replaced the processor with
   a good used one...no go. Figured when it went, it took out the mobo or
   vice versa so I put in another used mobo with my old processor. Nada.
   Replace processor with the good used one. Ta-da! I guess both items
   were toasted. :-(
 
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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread skinnie
1)Download onyx,run the automation process.
2)IF the problem still there try the memory with AHT that came with
your computer.
2)If AHT doesn't report any error,test each dimm,in the available
slots and then all of them in different slots.You want to pass a
rubber in the memory connections.
3)If everything is ok,maybe you have some bad capacitors in your emac
or something.

Hope it helps

On Feb 12, 7:12 am, Opinioneditor opinionedito...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had a few Adobe programs start crashing on my eMac after a couple
 years of normal use. The crash report says Read Only Memory
 Exception and Instruction=82b7 I've reinstalled the software,
 nuked preference files, nuked the font caches, checked disk
 permissions, ran Apple Hardware Test for 14 hours straight and even
 replaced the OS (Tiger 10.4.11) as well as zapped the PRAM. I still
 get the problem. However, I can transfer the software to a thumb drive
 and run it on another computer with no problem, so it seems to be
 something with the Mac. Does anyone know if this is a fixable problem,
 or is my eMac starting to go senile?

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Re: problems with AGP video in sawtooth

2011-02-12 Thread skinnie
The sleep problem is common to certain flashed cards,I have a 6200
card and it has the same problem, as probably every flashed 6200.
About the other problems:
First of all,are you sure you have a sawtooth?I ask this because,I
though I had a sawtooth (400MHz single G4) and in fact I have a
Gigabit Ethernet (with the small adc connector on the board) and if it
is your case you must tape pins 3 and 11 on the card...
Keep in mind that some cards have problems with MacOS X under 10.4.3
and take a lot of time too boot to 10.5 because of temp sensors (the
case of my 6200).
I know this are kinda neewbie advices for a guy that have flashed
some cards,but you never know :)

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Re: MDD problem

2011-02-12 Thread yawg
Hello,

I just tried to start my MDD another time, this time I held down the
start button for a longer time and lo and behold, at least I got the
same situation as before. The red LED on the mobo is lit.

The last thing I did was replace the single DIMM I left in and connect
another disk. Nothing looks burnt as far as I can see. Are there more
options before I send my PSU in for an overhaul?

Thanks again, Jörg.

On 12 feb, 13:28, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote:
 no... i dont think you burned out motherboard... CUDA is not burned out
 motherboard. It is long story for my English.

 Yes please test if you can your PSU before you got another one...









 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:17 PM, yawg yaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,

  Thanks for your comments and help.

  When I pressed the CUDA for a couple of times, about 10 to 20 seconds,
  there was no battery installed.

  I did this only after the normal CUDA procedure (5 sec. with battery)
  didn't work.

  How can I damage the motherboard without the battery? So it might be
  wasted money if I send my PSU in for repair? I have to get another
  MDD??

  Best regards, Jörg.

  On 12 feb, 05:23, Baha Ata baha...@gmail.com wrote:
   it is... sometimes... you may look 3 yellow capacitors on the board... i
   wish to have pictures... those are rectangle plactic cover yellow
   collored... not big, nor small... on the mainboard... look them. any
  burned
   out... generally first they burned out. on mainboard... look red light..
   generally if red light turns and those 3 of yellow covered mainboard is
  ok.

   On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:45 PM, theleaddog tr...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Feb 11, 3:54 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:55 AM, yawg wrote:
  I removed all cards, put the video card back in, removed all RAM,
  put
  one RAM stick back in, removed all ATA cables exept for my startup
  disk, removed the battery, pushed the CUDA a couple of times for 20
  seconds, pushed the power button for 20 seconds, let the thing sit
  for
  half an hour or more, put the battery back in and voilá: no more
  bong,
  the light on the power button only stays lit as long as I push it,
  doesn't matter how long I push it ...
  So I managed to kill my MDD by following your suggestions?

 Nope, now you know it's a bad power supply. I now remember going
though that hassle with a professors MDD about 6 months ago and
got the identical results. Replacing the PS fixed all the problems.

Interesting. I had the same experience with a MDD DP 1.25 pre-2003
($1000 at the time). Replacing the PS didn't fix it. Took it to Apple
store. Genius said the processor was shot. Replaced the processor with
a good used one...no go. Figured when it went, it took out the mobo or
vice versa so I put in another used mobo with my old processor. Nada.
Replace processor with the good used one. Ta-da! I guess both items
were toasted. :-(

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My Quicksilver

2011-02-12 Thread Stephen Conrad
Hmmm, now when my machine shuts itself off it leaves nothing in Console to
tell me why.
Yesterday I left it alone for about 2 hours and it shut itself off.
I have since checked the fans (the one up top in the tower and the one in
the PS you see when you open the case) and both are working.
Is there any way to find out the problem? Like, how to see if the machine is
getting too hot?
I am in talks with someone about a newer machine but this is frustrating!

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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Bill Connelly


On Feb 12, 2011, at 2:12 AM, Opinioneditor wrote:


I've had a few Adobe programs start crashing on my eMac after a couple
years of normal use.



Is it just the Adobe programs you are running that are crashing, or  
are you getting random-like crashes with other apps? I would guess  
dusty memory slots, or bad memory stick(s).


Have you blown out the dust recently? It can be pretty intense ... so  
go outside if possible.


You can run memtest from Applejack to test memory as well. I use the  
sandwich technique in my G4s, since I can rotate my 3 or 4 memory  
sticks and test.


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Re: My g5 is a snob

2011-02-12 Thread Jeff Bequette
yep my dual 1.8 was extremely picky and had to reset cuda before  
recognition.  (also had to exchange what was first shipped since it  
was not the correct mem)


On Feb 12, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

My G5 which is a dual 2.3 using PC3200 is VERY picky about how the  
RAM is seated. I reseated my sticks something like 26 times before I  
got all 8 slots recognized and working simultaneously. Once they all  
were recognized, I've never had another problem.
I think it helps if you press the CUDA button before booting after  
each time you add or change RAM. I think your 1 GB sticks are  
probably good. I'd try with ONLY the pair of 1 GB sticks over  over  
again until they're recognized, and then add back the pair of 512MB  
that seem to work better.


On Feb 11, 2011, at 11:49 PM, jason wrote:


Hey all.  Today got some additional memory for the above system but
the g5 1.8 ghz tower(pci-x) refuses to recognize them.  I currently
have two 512 sticks that work fine, but the two new 1 gb sticks don't
show.
The packing slip identifies them as PC3200 1gb DDR SDRAM 400mhz 184
pin memory, and the the stick labels both read 1 gb PC-3200 UDIMM
1RX4.

I did move the sticks in question around to the different matching
slots, but the computer ignores them.
I moved the two 512 sticks around as well, and they were recognized  
in

each of the slots.

What gives?  I thought I was careful in selecting the right ram.







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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Jim Scott
 On Feb 12, 7:12 am, Opinioneditor opinionedito...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had a few Adobe programs start crashing on my eMac after a couple
 years of normal use. The crash report says Read Only Memory
 Exception and Instruction=82b7 I've reinstalled the software,
 nuked preference files, nuked the font caches, checked disk
 permissions, ran Apple Hardware Test for 14 hours straight and even
 replaced the OS (Tiger 10.4.11) as well as zapped the PRAM. I still
 get the problem. However, I can transfer the software to a thumb drive
 and run it on another computer with no problem, so it seems to be
 something with the Mac. Does anyone know if this is a fixable problem,
 or is my eMac starting to go senile?

On Feb 12, 2011, at 4:32 AM, skinnie wrote:

 1)Download onyx,run the automation process.
 2)IF the problem still there try the memory with AHT that came with
 your computer.
 2)If AHT doesn't report any error,test each dimm,in the available
 slots and then all of them in different slots.You want to pass a
 rubber in the memory connections.
 3)If everything is ok,maybe you have some bad capacitors in your emac
 or something.

I've worked on a couple of eMacs in local schools with similar problems. I've 
run Apple Hardware Tests, Apple Service Diagnostic tests, reinstalled OS X, 
cleaned out all the dust bunnies, swapped RAM sticks, run Memtest overnight, 
run DiskWarrior, yada yada yada. Nothing fixes the problem, but nothing is 
found to be wrong, except the crash log points to memory problems.

Found a handful of bad capacitors on one eMac's logic board (1.25 GHz). It was 
really acting up, doing all sorts of strange, non-repeated things. Replaced all 
the caps on the logic board, and the software problem went away. The bad cap 
problem tends to affect 1.25 GHz eMacs the most, which coincides with bad 
capacitor problems reported by other electronics manufacturers in the 2004-2005 
time frame. You don't say, but my assumption is that you've got a 1.25 GHz 
eMac. I've not seen bad cap problems with 700 MHz-1 GHz USB 1.1 eMacs, but I 
have seen the problem in USB 2.0 1 GHz and 1.25 GHz eMacs. I've only dealt with 
a handful of 1.42 GHz eMacs, and they didn't have any capacitor problems -- at 
the time. Trouble is, caps can be bad and not show any visible sign of failure, 
such as leaking, bulging tops, tilted to one side from bottom leaks, etc.

Capacitors on eMac logic boards are relatively easy to replace and there are 
only a dozen or so to replace. Most of the work is in disassembling the beast 
enough to extract the logic board.

So, if all else fails, try the capacitor replacement solution. 

Jim Scott

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DHCP Server??

2011-02-12 Thread Dan Ziegler
Hello there,
I have a question: I would like to run a DHCP server on an iMac
running Leopard 10.5. I have tried building the ISC source code (I
have Developer Tools installed) but it fails with errors. Does anyone
have any experience building/running a DHCP server? Are there binaries
somewhere for OS X? I don't want to have to install DarwinPorts.
Thanks,
Dan

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Re: DHCP Server??

2011-02-12 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

 Hello there,
 I have a question: I would like to run a DHCP server on an iMac
 running Leopard 10.5. I have tried building the ISC source code (I
 have Developer Tools installed) but it fails with errors.

What are the errors? Everything I've read suggests that OS X is a known target 
in the compile configuration. Look out for spaces in directory paths and 
suchlike.

 Does anyone
 have any experience building/running a DHCP server? Are there binaries
 somewhere for OS X? I don't want to have to install DarwinPorts.

Darwin ports is probably the best way to do things like this; since it installs 
everything in it's own /opt/ directory, so OS X system upgrades don't stomp on 
it. Apple's updates have a nasty tendency to be a process like 'delete the 
existing /etc directory replace it with the one from the update'.

I'm not running dhcp on OS X but I am using it to run a mysql dbms and it works 
like a charm.

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Re: DHCP Server??

2011-02-12 Thread Dan

At 11:45 AM -0700 2/12/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote:

On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:
  Hello there,

 I have a question: I would like to run a DHCP server on an iMac
 running Leopard 10.5. I have tried building the ISC source code (I
 have Developer Tools installed) but it fails with errors.


What are the errors? Everything I've read suggests that OS X is a 
known target in the compile configuration. Look out for spaces in 
directory paths and suchlike.



 Does anyone
 have any experience building/running a DHCP server? Are there binaries
 somewhere for OS X? I don't want to have to install DarwinPorts.


Darwin ports is probably the best way to do things like this; since 
it installs everything in it's own /opt/ directory, so OS X system 
upgrades don't stomp on it. Apple's updates have a nasty tendency to 
be a process like 'delete the existing /etc directory replace it 
with the one from the update'.


I'm not running dhcp on OS X but I am using it to run a mysql dbms 
and it works like a charm.


Um, why not just use the dhcp service built-in?   That's what the 
internet sharing is all about - it adds a couple of routes to the ip 
stack and runs dhcp.


If you need something more sophisticated, there's IPNetRouter.

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Re: DHCP Server??

2011-02-12 Thread Kris Tilford

On Feb 12, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Dan wrote:


Um, why not just use the dhcp service built-in?


That's what I thought also, why reinvent the wheel?

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Re: power outage causes loss of video dual 1.8 G5 update

2011-02-12 Thread Charles Lenington

On 2/1/11 9:45 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:

Luck of the draw or brief power outage causes loss of video.

Really got lucky. Steps to resolve:

1. Safe boot - no luck
2. Zap P-ram - worked all normal so far.
(Gotta get new batteries for 6 backups).

Hopefully this will help others w/ same problem.


Update: 02/12/11

Well problem continued to occur. Sometimes unplugging and replugging 
display worked. if not, reboot/pram made it work again. So I've swapped 
out out the monitor w/ a 21 Dell LCD.

I tested the 15 Studio display (M2454) on a G4 and it does the way.
Anyone have an idea what's wrong?
Or should I offer on swap for parts? (Unfortunately the hinge is broke 
already so that won't help demand.)


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Seemingly Dead Yosemite G3

2011-02-12 Thread vacputer
My Yosemite G3 300 is failing to boot. The unit's power light comes
on, the hard disk spins up, and nothing else happens. No chime, no
video.
I have tried everything I can. I have removed all SIMMs and replaced
them with the original 64MB Apple SIMM. No joy. I have pushed the CUDA
button, no joy. I have removed all PCI cards except the original RAGE
128 graphics card. I have confirmed said card's functionality in my
Quicksilver G4. It works fine. I have replaced the 1/2 AA battery, but
the replacement may be dead. I have no way to measure its voltage.

Should I buy a new battery, or is there anything else I can try? I
have used BW G3s with dead batteries before, so I don't know if the
battery is the problem.

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Re: Seemingly Dead Yosemite G3

2011-02-12 Thread Ted Treen

vacputer wrote:

My Yosemite G3 300 is failing to boot. The unit's power light comes
on, the hard disk spins up, and nothing else happens. No chime, no
video.
I have tried everything I can. I have removed all SIMMs and replaced
them with the original 64MB Apple SIMM. No joy. I have pushed the CUDA
button, no joy. I have removed all PCI cards except the original RAGE
128 graphics card. I have confirmed said card's functionality in my
Quicksilver G4. It works fine. I have replaced the 1/2 AA battery, but
the replacement may be dead. I have no way to measure its voltage.

Should I buy a new battery, or is there anything else I can try? I
have used BW G3s with dead batteries before, so I don't know if the
battery is the problem.

   
All those symptoms suggest a dead 1/2 AA battery. G4 machines certainly 
behave like this,

and for such a small cost, it's got to be worth a shot.

Ted

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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Opinioneditor
It is only Adobe products that are doing it. Today, I accessed the
software from a laptop through Airport, and it ran fine on the laptop.

On Feb 12, 8:14 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote:
 On Feb 12, 2011, at 2:12 AM, Opinioneditor wrote:

  I've had a few Adobe programs start crashing on my eMac after a couple
  years of normal use.

 Is it just the Adobe programs you are running that are crashing, or  
 are you getting random-like crashes with other apps? I would guess  
 dusty memory slots, or bad memory stick(s).

 Have you blown out the dust recently? It can be pretty intense ... so  
 go outside if possible.

 You can run memtest from Applejack to test memory as well. I use the  
 sandwich technique in my G4s, since I can rotate my 3 or 4 memory  
 sticks and test.

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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Opinioneditor
Ran Onyx, and it had no effect. As I explained in the initial post, I
ran AHT for 14 hours straight on extended test. It found nothing.

On Feb 12, 5:32 am, skinnie andre.fa...@ua.pt wrote:
 1)Download onyx,run the automation process.
 2)IF the problem still there try the memory with AHT that came with
 your computer.
 2)If AHT doesn't report any error,test each dimm,in the available
 slots and then all of them in different slots.You want to pass a
 rubber in the memory connections.
 3)If everything is ok,maybe you have some bad capacitors in your emac
 or something.

 Hope it helps

 On Feb 12, 7:12 am, Opinioneditor opinionedito...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've had a few Adobe programs start crashing on my eMac after a couple
  years of normal use. The crash report says Read Only Memory
  Exception and Instruction=82b7 I've reinstalled the software,
  nuked preference files, nuked the font caches, checked disk
  permissions, ran Apple Hardware Test for 14 hours straight and even
  replaced the OS (Tiger 10.4.11) as well as zapped the PRAM. I still
  get the problem. However, I can transfer the software to a thumb drive
  and run it on another computer with no problem, so it seems to be
  something with the Mac. Does anyone know if this is a fixable problem,
  or is my eMac starting to go senile?

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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Kris Tilford

On Feb 12, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Opinioneditor wrote:


Are the capacitors easy to get to, and can they be changed DIY?


This isn't a capacitor issue because it only affects your Adobe  
software. When you Google search Read Only Memory Exception which is  
the error you cited, the ONLY results you'll see is other people with  
Adobe software problems. Unless you start seeing ALL programs having  
similar problems, it's NOT a hardware issue, it's an Adobe software  
issue.


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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Kris Tilford

On Feb 12, 2011, at 10:36 PM, Opinioneditor wrote:


It is only Adobe products that are doing it. Today, I accessed the
software from a laptop through Airport, and it ran fine on the laptop.


I don't think you're getting this. Your test doesn't help, and doesn't  
address the problem. Adobe installs items into your System software.  
When you run this software on another System, it's NOT THE SAME as  
running it on your eMac's system. There could be old incompatible  
files, or corrupted files that aren't present on this other Mac, it's  
not the same. One solution is to search out ALL Adobe files on you Mac  
and delete them, and then reinstall the Adobe software fresh.



Ran Onyx, and it had no effect. As I explained in the initial post, I
ran AHT for 14 hours straight on extended test. It found nothing.


Yes, it's NOT a hardware issue. It's an Adobe software issue.

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Re: Is it memory or software?

2011-02-12 Thread Opinioneditor
It is a 1.25ghz eMac, and I recently upgraded the memory to a full
gig. Are the capacitors easy to get to, and can they be changed DIY?

On Feb 12, 10:19 am, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Feb 12, 7:12 am, Opinioneditor opinionedito...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've had a few Adobe programs start crashing on my eMac after a couple
  years of normal use. The crash report says Read Only Memory
  Exception and Instruction=82b7 I've reinstalled the software,
  nuked preference files, nuked the font caches, checked disk
  permissions, ran Apple Hardware Test for 14 hours straight and even
  replaced the OS (Tiger 10.4.11) as well as zapped the PRAM. I still
  get the problem. However, I can transfer the software to a thumb drive
  and run it on another computer with no problem, so it seems to be
  something with the Mac. Does anyone know if this is a fixable problem,
  or is my eMac starting to go senile?

 On Feb 12, 2011, at 4:32 AM, skinnie wrote:

  1)Download onyx,run the automation process.
  2)IF the problem still there try the memory with AHT that came with
  your computer.
  2)If AHT doesn't report any error,test each dimm,in the available
  slots and then all of them in different slots.You want to pass a
  rubber in the memory connections.
  3)If everything is ok,maybe you have some bad capacitors in your emac
  or something.

 I've worked on a couple of eMacs in local schools with similar problems. I've 
 run Apple Hardware Tests, Apple Service Diagnostic tests, reinstalled OS X, 
 cleaned out all the dust bunnies, swapped RAM sticks, run Memtest overnight, 
 run DiskWarrior, yada yada yada. Nothing fixes the problem, but nothing is 
 found to be wrong, except the crash log points to memory problems.

 Found a handful of bad capacitors on one eMac's logic board (1.25 GHz). It 
 was really acting up, doing all sorts of strange, non-repeated things. 
 Replaced all the caps on the logic board, and the software problem went away. 
 The bad cap problem tends to affect 1.25 GHz eMacs the most, which coincides 
 with bad capacitor problems reported by other electronics manufacturers in 
 the 2004-2005 time frame. You don't say, but my assumption is that you've got 
 a 1.25 GHz eMac. I've not seen bad cap problems with 700 MHz-1 GHz USB 1.1 
 eMacs, but I have seen the problem in USB 2.0 1 GHz and 1.25 GHz eMacs. I've 
 only dealt with a handful of 1.42 GHz eMacs, and they didn't have any 
 capacitor problems -- at the time. Trouble is, caps can be bad and not show 
 any visible sign of failure, such as leaking, bulging tops, tilted to one 
 side from bottom leaks, etc.

 Capacitors on eMac logic boards are relatively easy to replace and there are 
 only a dozen or so to replace. Most of the work is in disassembling the beast 
 enough to extract the logic board.

 So, if all else fails, try the capacitor replacement solution.

 Jim Scott

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Re: DHCP Server??

2011-02-12 Thread Clark Martin

On Feb 12, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Dan Ziegler wrote:

 Hello there,
 I have a question: I would like to run a DHCP server on an iMac
 running Leopard 10.5. I have tried building the ISC source code (I
 have Developer Tools installed) but it fails with errors. Does anyone
 have any experience building/running a DHCP server? Are there binaries
 somewhere for OS X? I don't want to have to install DarwinPorts.

Hmm, it's been a while but I compiled and installed it without any difficulty 
(IIRC).  I did it on Tiger though.  

You did both the ./configure and make steps right?

Darwin Ports isn't that big a deal, I have it and MacPorts installed on some 
machines and they mostly work well.  




Assuming you get it installed you might want to consider WebMin for setting it 
up.  I have both DHCP and BIND installed on my server and use WebMin to 
configure them.  It works very well.  

The other thing I did was set up /Library/StartupItems entries for both so 
they'd start at boot time.

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

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