POLITICAL STATEMENT?
RE: From: dougl...@macnauchtan.com Subject:Re: connectivity question Date: November 21, 2011 6:22:07 PM EST To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I thought political statements were not permitted on the list. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
733 DA top cover
I have a few G4 DA, one of which is a 733 mhz. It alone happens to have a light grey top cover. I'd suspect that someone swapped it from a Quicksilver. Does anyone know if possibly any late models might have come with a light grey top. Only reason I'm wondering is that I'm turfing the remains of a 466 and would swap the top if the 733 has the wrong one Wayne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: connectivity question
Lo, At 22:24 21/11/2011, you wrote: On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: About half of all prescriptions filled remotely in the US is done by fax machine. A fax cannot be falsified via a MITM attack like an email can, nor can it be as easily forged, and faxes, unlike emails, support legal signature requirements. rant/ Of course we could have a system whereby we did have unfalsifiable emails with valid signatures, but only drug dealers, terrorists and dirty f***ing hippies use email encryption, right? /rant Yeah it seem so in America according to the NNSquad (net neutrality) email group that western countries are entering the world of restrictive middle eastern countries. Sadly in the UK we seem to be heading the same way. Its very sad that politicians are so old/ignorant that they do not understand the internet. They probably have secretaries to send emails and thats as close to the net that they get. Martin N Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: connectivity question
On 11/21/11 5:22 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: At 15:24 -0700 11/21/11, Bruce Johnson wrote: About half of all prescriptions filled remotely in the US is done by fax machine. A fax cannot be falsified via a MITM attack like an email can, nor can it be as easily forged, and faxes, unlike emails, support legal signature requirements. rant/ Of course we could have a system whereby we did have unfalsifiable emails with valid signatures, but only drug dealers, terrorists and dirty f***ing hippies use email encryption, right? /rant You are s right! Banks, brokers, and credit card folks all want everyone to change to all electronic delivery of statements. They get delivered as PDF files which can easily be modified by any half way intelligent programmer. I figure the only real reason I want the monthly documents is for use in, perish the thought, a problem that requires a court to provide a solution. Can you imagine trying to prove that you did not modify a statement in PDF format? As Bruce says, it is possible to sign things using public-key cryptography. The code is all there and is easily applied to the likes of a PDF or simple text file that contains the data. Any changes would be immediately apparent. All I ask, regularly, is that my bank use the cryptography to sign their documents and declare up front that in any legal proceeding they will honor a match of the crypto hashes in court. I have yet to find a financial establishment that has the foggiest idea of what I'm talking about. My stuff gets delivered as paper because I demand it while suggesting the crypto option. Where is my government on the point? Clueless is the answer and it applies to much more. Well that goes back to an article in a banking/banker magazine I read in the library at East Central University. They were talking about making everyone use plastic. Sounds like the feds want to track all the moneyy to track us. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 733 DA top cover
-Original Message- From: Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 12:33 am Subject: 733 DA top cover I have a few G4 DA, one of which is a 733 mhz. It alone happens to have a light grey top cover. I'd suspect that someone swapped it from a Quicksilver. Does anyone know if possibly any late models might have come with a light grey top. Only reason I'm wondering is that I'm turfing the remains of a 466 and would swap the top if the 733 has the wrong one Wayne I've got a Gig-E (DP450) DA (orig 466 upgraded). Both have the dark top that matches the front back. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11
Is it unusual for a PCI card to show up under 10.5.8, but when I boot the same machine under 10.4.11, it does not show up? It is an M-Audio 2496 Audio PCI card, which I have not yet installed the drivers. Drivers do not work (very well) under 10.5.8, but supposedly will be fine under 10.4.11 ... it just doesn't show up under System Profiler in Tiger. This is all on a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI Cards under OS X 10.5.8 vrs 10.4.11
On Nov 22, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: Is it unusual for a PCI card to show up under 10.5.8, but when I boot the same machine under 10.4.11, it does not show up? It is an M-Audio 2496 Audio PCI card, which I have not yet installed the drivers. Drivers do not work (very well) under 10.5.8, but supposedly will be fine under 10.4.11 ... it just doesn't show up under System Profiler in Tiger. My first step would be to install the drivers. Second would be to try a different PCI slot.. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What went wrong?
Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:52 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana Dana I have one of those cards in my PPC G5 dual 2.7 and for me it was plug and play no drivers needed:-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36728487/AIRPORT.png John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Power Mac Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?
The statements involve all political parties tragic misguidance and so IMHO less political than most discussion. Martin N At 12:04 22/11/2011, you wrote: Is a comment (and small complaint) about internet privacy and teh common Man's seeming complete lack of grasp of its import , hinging on how the tools have been on Macs (and other systems ) for over 2 decades (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy which I've used) something political? On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:39 PM, John Callahan wrote: RE: From: dougl...@macnauchtan.com Subject:Re: connectivity question Date: November 21, 2011 6:22:07 PM EST To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I thought political statements were not permitted on the list. Running MorphOS v2.6 (Nov 2010) on Mac Mini, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Hi John, Thanks for sharing - I do not get any recognition like that :-( -Dana On Nov 22, 10:12 pm, JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Nov 22, 2011, at 6:52 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings, all. Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. System profiler recognizes the presence of the card installed in slot 4 as Other Network controller and that there are no drivers installed (or more accurately Driver Installed: No) Am I still missing something? Is there an OS-level configuring I have yet to do? Thanks for any input on this, Regards, Dana Dana I have one of those cards in my PPC G5 dual 2.7 and for me it was plug and play no drivers needed:-) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36728487/AIRPORT.png John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Power Mac Dual 2.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
On Nov 22, 2011, at 8:52 PM, DLC wrote: Am I still missing something? When you open System PreferencesNetwork you should see an Airport network port shown. If it's not there, it should automatically recognize when you open Network. If it doesn't automatically recognize, you and add it manually, but this shouldn't be necessary and might indicate your specific combination of VID PID may be missing from the Broadcom kext. The easy way of adding all the possible supported VID PID combinations is to use bcm43xx_enabler.sh script to modify the info.plist file of the AppleAirPortBrcm4311.kext which is located within:System Library Extensions IO80211Family .kextContentsPluginsAppleAirPortBrcm4311.kextContentsinfo.plist. I'd opt to download the bcm43xx_enabler.sh script, open Terminal, and type: sudo with a space after, and drag the script into the Terminal window which will add the path to the script, than hit the Return and follow the instructions (usually only pressing the Return key several times for a default installation, which 99.9% of the time is correct). The advantage of the script is that it corrects the ownership permissions automatically, and adds all known support for every possible Broadcom device. If you've verified that your specific VID PID combo are in the info.plist, and that Airport is in Network preferences, you should be able to connect if the Network preferences are correctly configured. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Nanny attention ! Re: POLITICAL STATEMENT?
Any list managers ( I like the LEM traditional Nanny myself) can we get a stop on this commentary and non comment commentary. has everyone forgotten the user terms and the rules? Take the politics to Facebook or somewhere. Please. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What went wrong?
Okay, a while ago I received great advice from some colleagues here regarding wireless cards and a G5 with a PCI-E slot compatibility. After doing some homework, I purchased one of those mini PCI_E adapters and then a PCI-E wireless card to fit into it. Installed the completed unit with out a hitch. I targeted a Broadcom BCM94312MCG PCI-E card, knowing from history, experience AND said recent reports/advice that Broadcom is Airport-compatible and generally the way to go. So. No Airport, no nothing. Not all Broadcom cards are created equally. Some are quite simply made to a specification for a single end-user as an OEM product. The 4322/94322 is, in general, Airport a/b/g/n- and also AirDrop-compatible. I buy mine from various Hong Kong eBay dealers. So far, I have had only one 94322 which was no immediately seen by Snow Leopard or Lion as an Airport card. Mine are being run in Hackintoshes, either home-built using Gigabyte or ASRock motherboards, or in Shuttles. The Shuttle SH67 is particularly interesting in that it has an on-mobo mini PCI-e 1x slot and three knock-outs for antennas. This still leaves two available PCI-e slots for conventional cards. For a Broadcom WiFi card, only two antennas are possible, and one is often sufficient. I have two antennas in my Shuttle SH67, running Lion 10.7.2 and it is flawless with the exception that the ASMedia USB 3.0 chips won't work as there is no driver for it. Some of the most compatible WiFi cards, for use in Macks or in Hacks, are actually Dell-branded cards, DW 1390 (802.11b/g) and others. Look in eBay for cards stated to be WLAN and/ or DW , where is a sequence of numbers. I suppose DW is Dell-speak for Dell Wireless. Broadcom codes their model numbers to include a suffix. Certain suffixes after, say 4322, could be 5xxx, where xxx are alpha characters. Those often are OEM and cannot be made to work in Macks or in Hacks. YMMV, of course. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
