Re: Safari Bookmark Bar

2012-03-14 Thread Dan

At 8:13 PM -0700 3/13/2012, gifutiger wrote:

My Safari Bookmark Bar used to have one of those triangles next to the
item on the par if it was a folder and had Bookmarks inside.

Well something happened and the triangles have change to squares and
if I click on them, all of the bookmarks inside open is separate folders.


Open the bookmarks window (Bookmarks  Show all bookmarks).  On the 
items you don't want to auto-open, uncheck the auto-click item.


Those auto-open bookmarks, btw, can be quite handy.  I've got 
several... eg:  AM   I hit that in the morning and it opens all my 
news and finance and comics pages in separate tabs.


If you hold down cmd or option while clicking on one, it will show 
you its contents, just like a normal grouped-bookmark.



I've downloaded and reinstalled Safari 5.0.6 from the Apple archive
server and everything has stayed the same


Reinstalled?  wtf?  You're using a Mac not a peecee. 
Reinstalling anything on a Mac is the last thing you should ever 
consider.


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Re: G4 USB external hd will not start up 10.5

2012-03-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:


G4 USB external hd will not start up 10.5


Yes, this is true.

Only a very few of the USB 1.1 Macs can boot from USB, only the  
colored iMacs  iBooks, and none of the G4's can boot from USB  
AFAIK. You'll need an external enclosure with both USB 2.0  Firewire,  
and boot the G4 from Firewire. If your Intel MacBook has Firewire, you  
could get by with Firewire only, otherwise you'll need both USB2   
Firewire.


Leopard 10.5 is the only version of OS X that can boot both PPC Macs   
Intel Macs. You must format the HD as GUID, and it will boot both PPC  
 Intel Macs.


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Re: Safari Bookmark Bar

2012-03-14 Thread gifutiger
Thanks Dan that was the problem.

Cheers

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On Mar 14, 12:31 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 8:13 PM -0700 3/13/2012, gifutiger wrote:

 My Safari Bookmark Bar used to have one of those triangles next to the
 item on the par if it was a folder and had Bookmarks inside.

 Well something happened and the triangles have change to squares and
 if I click on them, all of the bookmarks inside open is separate folders.

 Open the bookmarks window (Bookmarks  Show all bookmarks).  On the
 items you don't want to auto-open, uncheck the auto-click item.

 Those auto-open bookmarks, btw, can be quite handy.  I've got
 several... eg:  AM   I hit that in the morning and it opens all my
 news and finance and comics pages in separate tabs.

 If you hold down cmd or option while clicking on one, it will show
 you its contents, just like a normal grouped-bookmark.

 I've downloaded and reinstalled Safari 5.0.6 from the Apple archive
 server and everything has stayed the same

 Reinstalled?  wtf?  You're using a Mac not a peecee.
 Reinstalling anything on a Mac is the last thing you should ever
 consider.

 - Dan.
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Re: G4 USB external hd will not start up 10.5

2012-03-14 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Mar 13, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
 
 G4 USB external hd will not start up 10.5
 
 Yes, this is true.
 
 Only a very few of the USB 1.1 Macs can boot from USB, only the colored 
 iMacs  iBooks, and none of the G4's can boot from USB AFAIK. You'll need an 
 external enclosure with both USB 2.0  Firewire, and boot the G4 from 
 Firewire. If your Intel MacBook has Firewire, you could get by with Firewire 
 only, otherwise you'll need both USB2  Firewire.

My experience with booting via USB is the external enclosure needs to be AC 
powered, I can boot all my machines G3, G4, and G5 with this method. These 
include G3 iMac, G3 iBook, G4 Cube, G4 MDD, G4 Titanium PB, G4 Aluminum PB. G5 
Power Mac 2.7, The machines that will boot Bus Powered USB are all my Intel's, 
MacBook,  Intel iMac, Mac Pro and Mac Book Pro Core i7.

 Leopard 10.5 is the only version of OS X that can boot both PPC Macs  Intel 
 Macs. You must format the HD as GUID, and it will boot both PPC  Intel Macs.

PPC will not boot a GUID HDD AFAIK.
I have a copy of Leopard 10.5.8 on an external drive with the Apple Partition 
Map that boots G4, G5, plus all my Intel's up to and including my Mac Pro Quad 
Nehalem. I can't boot a PPC machine with a GUID format. The only machine I have 
that seems to insist on GUID is a MacBook Pro Core i7.


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G4 10.4 now not loading, can't find root user

2012-03-14 Thread Jonas Lopez
G4 10.4 now not loading, can't find root user

Went to use long existing 10.4, but now it will not load, did safe boot with 
shift down, will not load. 

Did [(apple)+s] single user and after a time, locks up with this verbiage: 
couldn't find root user, sleeping and trying again. 

What is going on???


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Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Illirik Smirnov
I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting the
computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil. It doesn't conduct
electricity, and as such would be perfect for this use. It has been done
many times with PCs; does anyone know anything that may keep the G5 from
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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Douglas Mencken
 This would involve putting the computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of 
 mineral oil.

Why do you need it?

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Re: G4 USB external hd will not start up 10.5

2012-03-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:07 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote:


PPC will not boot a GUID HDD AFAIK.


You're correct, the partition map needs to be Apple Partition Map  
which CAN boot both Intel  PPC Macs.


If a G4 will boot a self-powered USB drive, then with APM it should be  
possible to boot both from a USB external HD, but USB 1 will be SLOW.


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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 12-03-2012 18:32, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:

 I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting the
 computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil.
This sounds weird. :-o
Do you mean immersing the whole processors assembly into oil?

Would it smell like fries? ;-D

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Dan

At 9:04 PM +0100 3/14/2012, Valter Prahlad wrote:

Il giorno 12-03-2012 18:32, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:
  I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting the

 computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil.


This sounds weird. :-o
Do you mean immersing the whole processors assembly into oil?

Would it smell like fries? ;-D


hum.  A whole sensory new dimension to using a Mac!

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Jesse Stjohn
Actually y ruin a perfectly good system for that? Just asking .. Also it 
stinks but not like fries, I think possible a DUI watercool would be more 
effective. 

People putting their pc's in mineral oil is like masterbating in public, just 
because you can doesn't mean you should. But maybe that is why you want to do 
it. Good luck either way. And yes you can you must submerse everything except 
hd's DVD drives and other things ..

The greater the animal, the greater the man 

On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it 
wrote:

 Il giorno 12-03-2012 18:32, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:
 
 I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting the
 computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil.
 This sounds weird. :-o
 Do you mean immersing the whole processors assembly into oil?
 
 Would it smell like fries? ;-D
 
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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 14, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Jesse Stjohn wrote:

 Also it stinks but not like fries, I think possible a DUI watercool would be 
 more effective. 

A DUI watercool would work...for a second or two Id imagine :-)

If you're gonna do it, go big...get a Cray 2 case and cooling system 8-P 
Fluorinert rulz!

http://www.craysupercomputers.com/images/Systems/Cray2/Cray2_019_8Processor_NERSC.jpg

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 14-03-2012 22:28, Dan ha scritto:

 Would it smell like fries? ;-D
 
 hum.  A whole sensory new dimension to using a Mac!

Going all the way through from MacIntosh to MacDonald's... ;-P

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 Il giorno 14-03-2012 22:28, Dan ha scritto:
 
 Would it smell like fries? ;-D
 
 hum.  A whole sensory new dimension to using a Mac!
 
 Going all the way through from MacIntosh to MacDonald's... ;-P

Hey you can make tasty fried snax while cranking up the framerate or doing 
those big renders or sfx!

It's a Deep Fryer! It's a Computer!

All you need is Dan Ackroyd at his smarmiest to introduce it!

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread John Carmonne

On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Illirik Smirnov wrote:

 I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting the 
 computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil. It doesn't conduct 
 electricity, and as such would be perfect for this use. It has been done many 
 times with PCs; does anyone know anything that may keep the G5 from working 
 optimally?
 -- --
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Why not just overhaul your LCS with Marine coolant? It works good for me.

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92886 USA
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Re: G4 USB external hd will not start up 10.5

2012-03-14 Thread JohnCarmonne

On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

 On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:07 PM, JohnCarmonne wrote:
 
 PPC will not boot a GUID HDD AFAIK.
 
 You're correct, the partition map needs to be Apple Partition Map which CAN 
 boot both Intel  PPC Macs.
 If a G4 will boot a self-powered USB drive, then with APM it should be 
 possible to boot both from a USB external HD, but USB 1 will be SLOW.

USB 1.1 is really slow doing anything. I can use 2.0 cards on the PB's even the 
G3 Wally's but stuck on the G4 Cubes. Anyway Firewire is the way to go if you 
can. 
Some of the ADS's will only boot with a USB 2.0 on the Intel's. All of the 
machines I mentioned will also boot on a USB stick (thumb drive)
except the PM G5 Dual 2.7, G3 non native USB PB's  and a G4 Mac Mini.



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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Illirik Smirnov
No, TBH here is an actual video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtufuXLvOok .
I'm not trolling.
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 wrote:


 On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

  Il giorno 14-03-2012 22:28, Dan ha scritto:
 
  Would it smell like fries? ;-D
 
  hum.  A whole sensory new dimension to using a Mac!
 
  Going all the way through from MacIntosh to MacDonald's... ;-P

 Hey you can make tasty fried snax while cranking up the framerate or doing
 those big renders or sfx!

 It's a Deep Fryer! It's a Computer!

 All you need is Dan Ackroyd at his smarmiest to introduce it!

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 14-03-2012 22:57, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:

 No, TBH here is an actual video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtufuXLvOok .

Amazing. It's very nerdish. :-)

I'm doubtful about the power supply fan, though, and I'm very skeptical
about immersing the HD in oil: it isn't designed to work in oil, and the
very strict tolerances might lead to trouble.
(unless it's leak-proof; but on HDs I always noticed a tiny hole you must
not cover, so it's not sealed)

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Re: MDD Boot Problem

2012-03-14 Thread glen


- Original Message -
 From: Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com

  Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to 
 the VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to 
 the  
 MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports.

 You could always try a safe boot if you have an Apple monitor with an
 ADC connector. With a safe boot the main monitor will always be on the
 ADC monitor. That is if your MDD has an Apple video card ...
 

Be warned a long reply follows: [Just to recap, a newly acquired MDD boots fine 
on an old test hard drive called Mac OSX but refuses to boot to a different 
hard drive (Drive 1) on a cloned volume a  from a QuickSilver  which I want to 
be the main volume.]

I connected an ADC Apple display to to the MDD as Jörg suggested. I selected 
Drive 1 as the boot drive, and in safe mode the MDD booted to Mac OS X and asks 
for the password for the user in Drive 1, when entered it boots to Drive 1.

THIS IS THE DESIRED RESULT!

However, It seems odd that when Drive 1 was selected as boot drive Mac OS X 
comes up in single user mode and asks for the password of the user in Drive 1??

Once booted in Drive 1 in safe mode a restart results in the dreaded blue 
screen as reported earlier. Not the desktop blue screen just  a plain light 
blue with no variations in blue tones or swirls as in the default desktop of 
10.4.11. So now I don't think it is second monitor problem preference problem. 
(see earlier posts).

Perhaps as suggested in an earlier post, Disk Warrior may solve the problem. I 
know Disk Warrior is great to have in your toolbox. But given Disk Warrior cost 
more than I paid for the MDD, I will likely just do an Achieve and Install of 
10.4 as suggested in another post and hope that solves this weird problem. This 
in not a production machine so time is relative but dollars are not. :-)

Next and hopefully final question before I do a reinstall -- when Drive 1 
becomes the boot drive in safe mode why does a restart results in the dreaded 
blue screen? If I can get a boot to Drive1 what is preventing  boot on a 
restart?

Many thanks to Jörg, Peter, John  Eelco for your help --glen

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Big Mac and fries?


Hell why not dry ice or a mini fridge? This must be one Monster Mac
crunching HD frames from space probe cams or calculating world financial
markets or something. Hot,hot hot !


On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Valter Prahlad 
valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote:

 Il giorno 12-03-2012 18:32, Illirik Smirnov ha scritto:

  I'm considering oil-cooling my DP 2.5 PMG5. This would involve putting
 the
  computer (sans ports, hdd, cd) in a tub of mineral oil.
 This sounds weird. :-ospace
 Do you mean immersing the whole processors assembly into oil?

 Would it smell like fries? ;-D

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Re: Oil Cooling

2012-03-14 Thread W.Adrian D'Alessio
Don't go for the bubbles though it will reduce heat transfer. Or is that
important?  Or is it really about having a showy conversation piece?

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Re: MDD Boot Problem

2012-03-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Mar 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, glen wrote:

Once booted in Drive 1 in safe mode a restart results in the dreaded  
blue screen as reported earlier.


Perhaps as suggested in an earlier post, Disk Warrior may solve the  
problem. I know Disk Warrior is great to have in your toolbox. But  
given Disk Warrior cost more than I paid for the MDD, I will likely  
just do an Achieve and Install of 10.4 as suggested in another post  
and hope that solves this weird problem. This in not a production  
machine so time is relative but dollars are not. :-)


The only reason for Disk Warrior is when Disk Utility reports problems  
that it can't fix. I don't think that's the issue here.


Since you CAN boot in Safe Boot, the next step is to boot Safe Boot  
and reinstall the latest Combo Update, then restart and see if you get  
past the blue screen. I think the reinstall of the Combo Update will  
likely solve your problem. Before you reinstall the Combo Update, you  
might run Disk UtilityVerify Disk and if there are any problems, boot  
a CD/DVD and fix them (if possible) using Disk Utility on the OS X CD/ 
DVD.


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