Attention all Minecraft players on PowerPC Macs Reguarding the MC 1.4.6 Update

[Xion Dracari]

while a good chunk of power PC Macs would probbly lag like heck on 
minecraft it is being stated that as of the 1.4.6 the LWJGL Lightweight 
Java Game Library in use by Minecraft will no longer be compatable with 
Java 1.5 (Java 5) avilable to PowerPC Users see: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=Hp66BBNOPno#t=529sforinfo
 from youtuber AntVenom on the matter. (just him stating that its not 
compatable with PowerPC Macs for 1.4.6 MC onwards) (offical notice from 
mojang : http://www.mojang.com/2012/12/minecraft-snapshot-12w50a/)

i dont have much to say personally as the best G~ Mac i have is a G3 600mhz 
Snow White iMac. thought i'd give a heads up incase anyone in this group 
is oddly playing Minecraft on a G5,

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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

[Bill Connelly]

I also ran AHT 1.2.6 on my QS 2002, and it showed no signs of problems.

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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

[Bill Connelly]

Another thing I just realized I have been doing ... plugging /  
unplugging my Firewire webcam while the system is booted up.


Could that be a cause of my woes? Since Firewire is not hot-swappable?

I saw one time in my system log, that an Ecamm plugin was somewhat  
confused (I think)


Maybe the cpu has just gone bad.

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Re: Throwing in the Towel

[Richard Gerome]

  I bought that 9800 for a friend's G4 466mhz Tower and never used it because I couldn't flash the rom... I maxed the ram, put in a 250G 7200rpm HD (only reads 128G) and a new DVD super drive and installed Tiger. They had this 23" monitor for it and I just left the orig video card in it. I had to boot it up 3 or 4 times till the res was all the way up to it's max..? This was about 2 yrs ago and it's still working pretty good with no problems... So this left me wondering why so many put this 9800 in them??? Maybe someone here can tell me why they even use this 9800 card? When I go back to NC to visit them I'm going to download Leopard on it for them...-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Throwing in the Towel

On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I will hang on to the card and see if it works if I ever get a G5.There is a version of the 9800 that works on a G4, but they are  expensive and hard to find; I know because I have been looking for one  myself without success. The one card I did find (on ebay) had a  problem (hot, ozone smell and only 128 MB available of the 256 MB  alleged) and was returned to the seller. That's why I finally settled  on a 9600.A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told)  and I'll bet that is the one you have.Michael McMurtreyCarrollton, TX-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs.The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlTo post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.comFor more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list

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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 15, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:

 Another thing I just realized I have been doing ... plugging / unplugging my 
 Firewire webcam while the system is booted up.
 
 Could that be a cause of my woes? Since Firewire is not hot-swappable?

FW was designed from the beginning to be hot-swappable. ONe of the first FW 
external drive reviews I read, the reviewers unplugged it mid-write, thne 
plugged it back in...the system continued writing.
 
 I saw one time in my system log, that an Ecamm plugin was somewhat confused 
 (I think)

This is possible
 
 Maybe the cpu has just gone bad.

Unlikely, it would just freeze. Is the mouse pointer frozen when the Finder 
freezes? Are you seeing a SPOD? Can you command-tap to other running programs 
when this happens?

Send me your system and panic logs, (off list obviously!) so I can take a look.

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PowerMac G4 Processor

[Alex Sciortino]

Hello. I have a dual 500mhz Powermac G4 that needs a new processor. I popped it 
into my 400mhz Mystic and had the same issue of no boot. With the 400mhz CPU 
both work fine. Where would I get a replacement and should I get the sonnet 
1ghz upgrade? This is used as a FTP server. 

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Re: PowerMac G4 Processor

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote:

 Hello. I have a dual 500mhz Powermac G4 that needs a new processor. I popped 
 it into my 400mhz Mystic and had the same issue of no boot. With the 400mhz 
 CPU both work fine. Where would I get a replacement and should I get the 
 sonnet 1ghz upgrade? This is used as a FTP server. 

Fleabay, LEM swap, etc. If all it does is serve up files that's IO bound not 
CPU so no, getting the 1GHz would be overkill.


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Re: PowerMac G4 Processor

[Cameron Kaiser]

 Hello. I have a dual 500mhz Powermac G4 that needs a new processor. I popped
 it into my 400mhz Mystic and had the same issue of no boot. With the 400mhz
 CPU both work fine. Where would I get a replacement and should I get the
 sonnet 1ghz upgrade? This is used as a FTP server. 

My 450MHz uniprocessor Sawtooth G4 handles fileserving just fine, to two
servers and several clients, plus automated backups. You need RAM and fast
I/O more than you need CPU in that configuration (mine is FW800 to a RAID 5
array, with a full load of RAM).

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Re: PowerMac G4 Processor

[Alex Sciortino]

Ok thank you. I have found one for $20. Do you think that would be a fair 
price, or should I keep looking?

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Re: PowerMac G4 Processor

[Alex Sciortino]

I ordered the 450mhz replacement. Are there any things I can do it improve my 
server's performance?

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Re: PowerMac G4 Processor

[Bill Connelly]

On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Alex Sciortino wrote:

I ordered the 450mhz replacement. Are there any things I can do it  
improve my server's performance?


Not an expert on this, but maybe adding an SATA PCI card and SATA  
drives.


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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

[Bill Connelly]

Conatacting Bruce offline with (minus attachments here):

On Dec 15, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Dec 15, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:

Another thing I just realized I have been doing ... plugging /  
unplugging my Firewire webcam while the system is booted up.


Could that be a cause of my woes? Since Firewire is not hot- 
swappable?


FW was designed from the beginning to be hot-swappable. ONe of the  
first FW external drive reviews I read, the reviewers unplugged it  
mid-write, thne plugged it back in...the system continued writing.


now that's hot ...



I saw one time in my system log, that an Ecamm plugin was somewhat  
confused (I think)


This is possible


Maybe the cpu has just gone bad.


Unlikely, it would just freeze. Is the mouse pointer frozen when the  
Finder freezes?


yes



Are you seeing a SPOD?


possibly


Can you command-tap to other running programs when this happens?


no



Send me your system and panic logs, (off list obviously!) so I can  
take a look.


thx

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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

[Bill Connelly]

Late ... Breaking News ...

According to another AHT run tonight, a Startup Error was reported:

POST / 16 / 64

A google search produced a discussion, which one contributor says it  
possibly means some of the cpu cache is bad.


This would explain the kernal panics, and shut downs at Startup, and  
flaky behavior when trying to use OS X.


OS 9 appears to be ok with bad cache, hence AHT 1.24 and 1.26 would  
run off a CD.


Perhaps I need to by a new cpu card? a replacement Dual 1GHz would be  
nice.


fleabay?

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Re: My Quicksilver Dual 1GHz G4 has gone bizerk ...

[Alex Sciortino]

If that error is CPU cache replace it. My issue started with that and it 
refused to bong today. They are cheap enough. I would recommend a dual 800mhz 
or faster if you want to use it for anything other than a server. 

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