Re: New Group Member
Welcome! Feels nice to see new members, who still own PowerPC Macs, joining! My PowerMac G4 MDD Dual is now through about 1000 hours of computing (mathematical sequences mostly) and is still looking strong! MAtevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Best possible graphics card for MDD G4?
Hy! Check this link (themacelite): themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility As you can see, for more than 75% of graphic cards, pins 3 and 11 need to be altered. Your computer can go up to Radeon x800 and GeForce 7800, as you mentioned. Good luck, Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Intel Mac PPC apps
Hy! Support for the Blue Box environment (alas, classic mode in OS X) was abandoned on Intel versions of OS X. Rosetta (along with Apple Java) will face the same fate in Lion. What about having the old Mac Mini and the new one at the same time? Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Selling upgraded Macs
Guys, I agree with Jonas Ulrich. I use my PowerMac MDD Dual 1.25 for my own research into theory of numbers and it is performing very well! So far it had over 900 hours of computing time in last few months, and it still performs well. Be well -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bounced mail?
I am having loads of failed mails - my mails from over months ago... They did got delivered, through, because I got answers to them, ... perhaps these were the answers from some parallel universes, where my mails were delivered, while in our universe they were not, or simply, mail agent started to act all over the place :) Cheers! Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: upgrade XServe G5: desktop processor?
Hy! Here is the link to the Xserve G5 developer note: http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/Hardware/Developer_Notes/Servers/XserveG5/XserveG5.pdf . I still do not know whether it is possible to install second-cpu, perhaps others can tell you more? Do you have a secondary cpu slot? Anyway, in the note it states: Warning: DON’T TRY TO USE OLDER PROCESSOR CARDS! This connector differs from those in earlier computers and it is not pin-compatible. As for the memory upgrade, the maximum for this computer is 8GB (184-pin, unbuffered, ECC DDR400 SDRAM DIMMs, unbuffered, 8-byte, with parity, PC3200 compliant). Yours, Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple_ARM ?
Wow! If Apple goes to ARM on laptops, wouldn't that be like going back to the PowerPC. I know that the times are different today and that ARM is way better off than PowerPC was in 2005 as far as Apple is concerned, but still, what would the performance of say future equivalent of MacBook pro be? And what will they stick into MacPros and iMacs? Is there a ARM chip in the roadmap that can match current Xeon generation? Is there even a ARM chip that can match PowerPC 970gx? I just hope that Apple knows what they are doing, and that they are not going to abandon their technical and academic community in favor of normal users, who just use Apple products out of fashion or because they don't like Windows. Think again, Apple! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple_ARM ?
So Apple will just stick to intel on high-performance models, while using ARM for everything else? That seems too optimistic to be true... that would mean that Apple would have to develop 2 parallel versions of OS X at the same time, one for ARM and other for Intel. This actually is nothing new, Apple is messing with multiple different architectures at the same time for the last 20 years (if not more), so they have vast experiences in that field. Anyway, I would love to see old-new PowerPCs in modern macs, but that is not going to happen, I am afraid... As it was said, IBM is past 7th generation, but Power architecture is meant for high-performance computing, not for laptops and iMacs. Apple has actually the ability to build high-performance PowerPCs (from PASemi), but I do not think that they are going to use this. Btw. I thought that SSE3 has everything that Altivec offers. Can you explain a little bit more, please? Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple_ARM ?
About your bet, Dan, what do you think will happen to the Mac Pro line? At the time I see no alternative to Xeon Nehalems. The reason I am concerned about this is because I use computers also to compute number sequences and there you need all the power you can get. And more cores mean more intervals at the same time, where current 12-core Mac Pro is clearly the winner. Well, current gen. Mac Pro is still somehow out of reach for me :) I can theorise about such computers but in real life I use my humble PowerMac G4 MDD Dual 1.25, which is, if you ask me, one of the best computers of all times (next to PowerBook G3) :D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Thank you, Tina, will sure do. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Hy! Thanks for advice. I will raise my Powermac as high as possible. When I will complete my numbers crunch for today, I will inspect it for dust and also clean it. Have a nice day! Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Yes, can be. It is running the einstein@home and ABC@home every day, for longer periods, so that can be the reason. If it is just that, than I am really happy. It is not the fastest computer in the universe, but I am happy to have it. Many my friends have x-core beasts, yy GB of RAM, 10MB/s internet link, but their computers are bored most of the time. Mine is not :) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD problem
Hy! I feel sorry for your case. I know how it feels, when your beloved computer seems dead. As John pointed out, CUDA is one of your last hopes. This guy here http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=135390 had a problem with his memory - he inserted the memory backwards, thus he fried the DIMM, but still they said that there is a hope in CUDA. If there was hope in his case, why should be no hope in yours? Besides, some 4 years ago, my Powerbook G3 went silent - the card holding the power connector and rerouting power to the logic board was damaged. I can still remember the scene - we, I and my friend, were trying to wake my PB G3 from the dead by soldering the power card. As you know, when an old powerbook boots, there is a long pause between the power-up and the chime, and one of the few ways of knowing whether your computer actually started was the presence of light on the keyboard or by measuring the electrical parameters from the power card itself, by hand. When we were about to give up, it finally booted. I cannot express my feelings, that I felt at that time, after hours of hard work and trying. Today, after 3 years, this Powerbook still runs. Therefore, there is some hope for your powermac G4, so do not feel sad and do not give up to early! With best wishes, Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Hy to everyone! Since I bought my Powermac G4 Dual 1.25 MDD, I can hear from time to time this very strange sound, believe it or not, like a bee. This sound has quite a high frequency, and it just stars for no obvious reason, lasting for about 1 second and ending with this sound, which you can hear the very moment when you press the power button to boot the computer. I think that it has something to do with the hard drive. Perhaps this is just hard drive spinning up, and I would really like to believe it. I am just buying another 1GB of RAM and I do not want for the computer to crash or the hard drive to die. Apart from that, there are no other problems, except this crash some days ago, which happened during night, because of a unresolved kernel trap (I think it was 0x30 or something like that). Please help! Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Hy! I am installing a new system for my powermac (and I am like bit on the edge with my nerves, because everything goes wrong), and I heard no such noise when I loaded the optical drive with my installation DVD. It seems that this sound poops up randomly. Well, I this computer is normally up for days, but iStat reads 46-49C temperature, so there should be no problem. I really hope that it is not something wrong with the PSU. Should I reset PMU? If so, with what command in the open firmware? p.s. I is it OK for the CRT monitor to be in standby mode for days? I really worry, because sometimes I leave the computer on when I leave home (it does some intense processing). My monitor is SAMSUNG SyncMaster 957p, some 8 years old. The image is of very high quality, never damaged (as far as I know), on the power surge. Thanks for answers, Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Thank you! Now I feel more relaxed already! Anyway, what about my CRT monitor? Has someone got a idea? I wrote about it in my last reply. Have a nice day! 2011/2/8, schaf...@comcast.net schaf...@comcast.net: Not to worry. The bee has been a normal event here for years. I have no idea what it is but it's apparently harmless. My best guess is a drive doing some sort of alignment check. I have a Seagate 320, a Seagate 80 and an IBM 80. I sounds benign, lasts about 1 or 1 1/2 seconds, occurs totally randomly a couple of times a day, and doesn't affect anything that I've noticed. My dual 1GB MDD runs 24/7 w/o sleep, BTW. FYI, if you hear the fan speed up much at all, try cleaning the intake plenum chamber in the lower front (aggressively with a tooth brush or similar and a vacuum upholstery brush). Get all the dust bunnies you can see. My temp went from 138 deg F down to 126 and the fan complains MUCH less now. - Peter PS: I find a bit of grog helps the nerves. YMMV - Original Message - From: Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 4:19:17 AM Subject: Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise??? Hy! I am installing a new system for my powermac (and I am like bit on the edge with my nerves, because everything goes wrong), and I heard no such noise when I loaded the optical drive with my installation DVD. It seems that this sound poops up randomly. Well, I this computer is normally up for days, but iStat reads 46-49C temperature, so there should be no problem. I really hope that it is not something wrong with the PSU. Should I reset PMU? If so, with what command in the open firmware? p.s. I is it OK for the CRT monitor to be in standby mode for days? I really worry, because sometimes I leave the computer on when I leave home (it does some intense processing). My monitor is SAMSUNG SyncMaster 957p, some 8 years old. The image is of very high quality, never damaged (as far as I know), on the power surge. Thanks for answers, Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
Well, that is reassuring. Thank you for calming me :) As for you, Miguel, I really hope that this has nothing to do with the PSU. I would rather see a hard drive fail than a PSU fail, because I really like this PowerMac and I think that this one is the last powerpc mac that I bought. Therefore, it should last long. Once again, thank you for helping me! 2011/2/8, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com: The only bad things about leaving your monitor in standby mode are:- 1) Your electricity costs will be a little higher. 2) With ANY electrical item left unattended in standby mode, there is a slightly increased risk of fire. Other than those two minor points, there shouldn't be any problems. Ted From: Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 8 February, 2011 14:41:20 Subject: Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise??? Thank you! Now I feel more relaxed already! Anyway, what about my CRT monitor? Has someone got a idea? I wrote about it in my last reply. Have a nice day! 2011/2/8, schaf...@comcast.net schaf...@comcast.net: Not to worry. The bee has been a normal event here for years. I have no idea what it is but it's apparently harmless. My best guess is a drive doing some sort of alignment check. I have a Seagate 320, a Seagate 80 and an IBM 80. I sounds benign, lasts about 1 or 1 1/2 seconds, occurs totally randomly a couple of times a day, and doesn't affect anything that I've noticed. My dual 1GB MDD runs 24/7 w/o sleep, BTW. FYI, if you hear the fan speed up much at all, try cleaning the intake plenum chamber in the lower front (aggressively with a tooth brush or similar and a vacuum upholstery brush). Get all the dust bunnies you can see. My temp went from 138 deg F down to 126 and the fan complains MUCH less now. - Peter PS: I find a bit of grog helps the nerves. YMMV - Original Message - From: Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 4:19:17 AM Subject: Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise??? Hy! I am installing a new system for my powermac (and I am like bit on the edge with my nerves, because everything goes wrong), and I heard no such noise when I loaded the optical drive with my installation DVD. It seems that this sound poops up randomly. Well, I this computer is normally up for days, but iStat reads 46-49C temperature, so there should be no problem. I really hope that it is not something wrong with the PSU. Should I reset PMU? If so, with what command in the open firmware? p.s. I is it OK for the CRT monitor to be in standby mode for days? I really worry, because sometimes I leave the computer on when I leave home (it does some intense processing). My monitor is SAMSUNG SyncMaster 957p, some 8 years old. The image is of very high quality, never damaged (as far as I know), on the power surge. Thanks for answers, Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs
Learning PowerPC assembly on a PowerMac G4
Hy! I have a PowerMac G4 and I want to use it to learn PowerPC assembly. How do you recommend I should get started? I know one or two things about assembly in general (ok, maybe more :) ), but not about PowerPC assembly. I have a PowerPC reference manual, list of assembly languages, almost everything I need to learn from. Now I need to know how to approach this practically: which assembler, how to use, ... I have OS X 10.4 tiger, Xcode is 2.x . Thank you for your help! Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver loses keyboard input
Hy! g3-5-list@googlegroups.comHave you since solved your problem with bad extensions? If not, try recreating the mkext, or play with kernel extensions (perhaps they are not even loaded ... ?) sudo kextload/kextunload If it would not help, then I would just reinstall the system. Yours, Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver loses keyboard input
Hello! I would recomend to look at the open-firmware(reset nvram, reset-all). But since you have no option of inputing text into the console (perhaps it would work with a bluetooth keyboard), try resseting the PMU the hard way (via battery on the logic board). The reason why I think that firmware is causing problems is that other devices (such as mice) are working in the same USB slots). Perhaps part of the firmware got corrupt. Anyway, try pulling the battery out of the logic board (look for the instructions on the Apple web site). I hope that will help. Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Essential utilities for G4 powermac
I think that there is a script that gets executed prior booting into the Forth shell (it was mentioned in the Mac OS X Internals (Amit S.). He stated that this script can render your computer unbootable, therefore it must be saved into NVRAM. I am sure that there is a way to save changes (like modified aliases) into NVRAM. In OS X, they are saved only if you shut down cleanly, and that is managed by IOKIT. Here we are speaking of firmware and I think that making your firmware implementation unchangeable for the end user after providing him with a shell is rather useless, dont you think? I think that sync writes changes to the NVRAM prior to reboot. Anyway, check this page http://osxbook.com/book/bonus/ancient/whatismacosx/arch_boot.html. I hope that I have been of some help (is that better ? :) ) Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Essential utilities for G4 powermac
http://www.firmworks.com/QuickRef.html Here you can see all open firmware commands (remember, that is forth environment, therefore you can define your own commands from the existing ones). I found that I was wrong about sync - it writes to the hard disk. The script I mentioned is NVRAMRC. Here is an example of running the editor to modify the script. Remember, it gets executed prior you have a chance to act, therefore, double-check everything. ok nvedit (use editor commands) ^C (control-C to finish) Store script to NVRAM [y/n]? y Enable script [y/n]? y ok Have a nice day, Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Downclock Powermac G4 mdd
Thank you for your answers! Well, as far as hardware way is concerned, I will not take that route. I would risk too much. The fan was already replaced when I bought the computer - silenter and more powerful, that is what the one I bought it from told me, but still too loud in my opinion. Also altering the pin configuration is not something I am prepared to do. I will consider once again putting one cpu down and enabling nap mode... Thank you for your answers. With regards, Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Essential utilities for G4 powermac
I would highly recommend Applejack. But I think it can only be installed on the boot drive. Also ClamXav would not hurt - we live in dark times, and is getting darker, even for macs :) Try searching sourceforge.net. And for the last resort, learn using OpenFirmware. It is very powerful and also extensible. The same goes for the Intel Macs - install rEFIt, along with the EFI shell, and learn how to use EFI shell as well. Try to find utilities which can be invoked from the OpenFirmware. Myself, I have never done that, but I am sure that it can be done and that such utilities exist. As for the pure troubleshooting utilities, I would recommend Apple Hardware Test, or some other LiveCD which has those utilities preinstalled. Depending solely on your hdd and utilities on it can be dangerous. I hope I have been of little help. Matevž Markovič -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Downclock Powermac G4 mdd
Hello! I have a Powermac G4 dual (1.25 ghz), running under OS X Tiger. I use this computer as a test server with low traffic. Because no performance-demanding tasks are running on it, I want to decrease the temperature of both cpus and thus also reduce the noise of the fan, as it is way too high. (and the power consumption) I have heard of CHUD 3.5.2 and its option of enabling nap mode, but I am not willing to risk crashing the machine, because I have read that enabling nap on both cores will probably crash the computer and it also has other side-effects. Is it possible to manually reduce the speed of both cpus? (probably from Open Firmware). I would rather go with 2 x 1.0 Ghz (250mhz less per cpu). And if it is, how dangerous is that? Thank you for your answers! Matevz Markovic -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
