G3 Beige MT with Two IDE Hard Drives
I have inherited a Beige G3 Minitower with 2 IDE hard drives, one is ~20 Gb while the other is ~30 Gb. On one is MacOS 9.2 while on the other is MacOS 8.6. The issue is that boot ups are very slow almost like the machine is searching for a startup disk. The system is maxed out insofar as installed RAM is concerned and both HDs have been thoroughly diagnosed and optimized using Disk Warrior and other disk utilities. Each drive is connected separately to one of the two IDE plugs on the motherboard. One shares this with the CD-ROM drive while the other doesn't share via its IDE cable. Is this the correct configuration for two IDE drives? Just wondering what is causing such intolerably slow (up to 1 minute or more) boot ups when the start up disk has been specifically selected under control panels. The slow start up happens no matter whether it is the OS 8.6 or the 9.2 system disk which is selected. I do have a Rev. B card in the machine if that's an issue which I don't think it should be. Thanks for all help! Will I Am --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Yamaha CRW4260TX Compatibility with G3
I have a chance to pick up a used Yamaha external SCSI CD-RW burner, model CRW4260TX (4x2x6x). To my knowledge, it is a 50-pin SCSI-1. Would this old Yamaha be a good match and compatible under MacOS 9 on the G3 or if not what more recent and faster models would be compatible? I do have a SCSI-2 card installed. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yamaha CRW4260TX Compatibility with G3
Correction! I'm now told it is a SCSI-2 device, not SCSI-1 as I first stated. Sorry about that. On Feb 26, 3:48 pm, Will_i_am wmhatch...@gmail.com wrote: I have a chance to pick up a used Yamaha external SCSI CD-RW burner, model CRW4260TX (4x2x6x). To my knowledge, it is a 50-pin SCSI-1. Would this old Yamaha be a good match and compatible under MacOS 9 on the G3 or if not what more recent and faster models would be compatible? I do have a SCSI-2 card installed. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SCSI CD-RW Drive Issue
Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues using an old (1999) Yamaha 6x4x16x SCSI (external) burner connected to a G3 minitower (full-capacity RAM and 366 Mhz CPU) such as using standard FujiFilm 8x24x CD-R discs? I run OS9.2.2 on the G3. This would be my first attempt at using a burner with the G3, and I'm trying to anticipate any issues beginning with the slower speed of the old burner compared to typical discs available today. In other words, would I have to locate a vendor who sells the older slower speed CD-Rs or can I use my 8x24x discs with the 6x burner? I'm reading that some people have problems with older burners being able to see higher speed discs? Thanks very much for any and all suggestions and information. Technical web links would also be much appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SCSI-2 Device on a G3 Beige MiniTower?
Will a SCSI-2 device such as a Teac CD-RW external drive work on a Beige G3 MiniTower running OS 9.2.2? I can't seem to find any information on just what SCSI this machine supports. Is it involved and expensive to retrofit this machine with SCSI-2? I'm assuming this G3 probably has only SCSI-1 capability? Thanks for your help and suggestions! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Installing SCSI-2 PCI Card in G3
I've installed a SCSI-2 PCI card (Orange Micro) in my Beige G3 Minitower in preparation for use of an external SCSI-2 drive. Other than firmware updaters, is there anything I should be aware which is necessary to do in order to connect the device and have it work succesfully? What about SCSI IDs? Do I still use one of my 2 free SCSI-buss IDs just as with SCSI-1? Thanks very much. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing SCSI-2 PCI Card in G3
What happens then if someone connects an earlier SCSI-1 device, such as a Yamaha 6x4x16x CD burner to the SCSI-2 port instead of to the SCSI-1 built-in bus port? Any disastrous result? I am assuming that the Yamaha is SCSI-1 correct? Will On Feb 24, 11:52 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Will_i_am wrote: I've installed a SCSI-2 PCI card (Orange Micro) in my Beige G3 Minitower in preparation for use of an external SCSI-2 drive. Other than firmware updaters, is there anything I should be aware which is necessary to do in order to connect the device and have it work succesfully? What about SCSI IDs? Do I still use one of my 2 free SCSI-buss IDs just as with SCSI-1? Thanks very much. No you've added a separate SCSI bus, so Device ID management (and termination) pertains to that card only, except for truly horribly broken things like Umax'es old SCSI scanner driver, which did not even look at the bus ID, only the Device ID, so that when I installed my scanner at ID 2 on the external bus (bus1) of my old 7600, I could no longer use ID 2 on the internal (bus0) or the scanner driver would barf. Truly a dumkopff move. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
