Network G5 to Macbook Pro to share superdrive
I need to upgrade a macbook pro to 10.6, but the internal dvd won't work. My G5 has a working dvd drive, but, of course, the 10.6 drive won't run any intel installer for me. I am under the impression that it is possible to network the G5 and the MBP such that they can share the G5's dvd drive, and yet load the 10.6 installer---as if the G5 was an external dvd. So, very simply, how do I do this, step by step? I only have an ethernet cable and a USB cable. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G5 kernal panic, anyone want to decipher?
G5/1.8 dual. I had just watched a youtube video via perian and was opening iTunes when this happened [er exactly what happened?] Interval Since Last Panic Report: 4611287 sec Panics Since Last Report: 2 Anonymous UUID:097DF688-CA60-40A7-BDA5-19EB616FA08B Wed Jul 31 12:47:18 2013 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x PC=0x000B57E4 Latest crash info for cpu 1: Exception state (sv=0x26d18500) PC=0x000B57E4; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x00946A00; R1=0x1EB17910; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x0094696C 0x00946EA8 0x0092F9A8 0x0092D570 0x0071F928 0x0070D7E4 0x006F309C 0x006F902C 0x00CF1E98 0x00CF907C 0x00CF9194 0x0036011C 0x0003F2A0 0x000B1DD4 Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC(5.4.8)@0x71e000-0x99efff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.3)@0x706000-0x71dfff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.3)@0x6e-0x705fff dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x644000 com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.5.5)@0xccc000-0xd17fff Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x26d18500) previously dumped as Latest state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x18a81000) PC=0x; MSR=0xD030; DAR=0x; DSISR=0x; LR=0x; R1=0x; XCP=0x (Unknown) BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task Mac OS version: 9L31a Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC System model name: PowerMac7,2 System uptime in nanoseconds: 5155995835282 unloaded kexts: com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 3609790072 loaded kexts: com.realtek.driver.RTL8192CU1005 com.apple.filesystems.autofs2.0.2 - last loaded 812550276 com.apple.GeForcePPC5.4.8 com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6 com.apple.driver.AppleTopazAudio2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2 com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0 com.apple.driver.AppleFCU 1.3.2b0 com.apple.driver.AppleFan 1.0.10f1 com.apple.driver.AppleADT746x 1.0.10f1 com.apple.driver.AppleK2Fan 1.0.10f1 com.apple.nvidia.nv30hal5.4.8 com.apple.driver.AppleCPUVoltage1.5.2d0 com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP1.7.7 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBDisplays 2.0.2 com.apple.driver.AppleVSP 2.2.2 com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2 com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver 1.7.2f1 0 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Google Reader going away, now what?
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9237592/Google_Reader_several_other_services_axed Google Reader is probably my most used web app of all. Why would they do this? And what to do now with a PPC/Leopard setup? I don't really like NetNewsWire for a variety of reasons. I don't like the little ads, I do not like how it takes me to a webpage for a blog rather than presenting the content within itself. On Aurora, Google Reader blocks ads and many other good things to keep it low-end. Also count me among those opposed to Wordpress esp without a good rss reader! Why can't the Wordpress content automatically be forwarded to extant email lists? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Sudden problems with AuroraFox on Leopard G5
Past few days I've tried to use AuroraFox 16 and its been beachballing
incessantly and then provoking a spindump---which I've managed to
disable. I thought it was simply time to upgrade, but, AuroraFox 17
and 20 are doing the same thing. I added no new addons, and no other
browser is giving me trouble, not even SeaMonkey with the same addons.
Anyone else having trouble? I wanted to stay on the latest AuroraFox
version which would let me easily use Flash {which is what, 17?]
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Leopard WebKit and Flash
I was experimenting with Leopard WebKit and it disabled and hid Flash from all Webkit browsers---but not from Aurora or Camino. I am using the common hacked Flash that reports as 11.1 that has been much discussed here. Question is: how do I reverse that if I want to use Safari or something with Flash? Dual 1.8 G5 running 10.5.8. Also, really more of a notice, but, every time I launch TenFourFox, it changes some of my about:config files in Aurora concerning out of date Flash notice reporting and so forth. How is that possible, and how to make it stop? I'd like to use TenFourFox as my secondary browser. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 fans racing
Dual 1.8 G5. When I put it to sleep, sometimes, not every time, I come home and the fans are racing and it sounds like a 747 taking off. I already reduced speed in the system prefs. Before I reduced, the fans would come on once or twice an hour, but never loud racing. Since I reduced, the fans /never/ come on except in sleep mode. I would think in sleep mode /less/ power and heat would be generated. Anyone have a theory on this? I installed a temp monitor utility, and it tells me the processors are running about 105 degrees F; the memory controller heatsink at about 118 F. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?
This thread has actually returned in its own way to the topic of browsers---in a general sense---and how to stay on the low-end as sites like Google demand more and more computer resources. For example, when I was limited to using my G3 iBook, and my G4 stock Digital Audio, I often took refuge in the Elinks text browser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELinks It runs in the Terminal and reminds of my original internet experience of modeming in to my University Vax account, running Gopher. It is *especially* well suited to Google Groups as it eliminates all formatting other than ASCII text. It can also be used for Gmail and Yahoo mail. When I begin to detest how much WWW has become like TV, I use ELinks. As for Facebook, there is a Firefox addon called Facebook Purity which reverses some of the more egregious nonsense---as far as the formatting is concerned. Right now I am responding to this Google Groups thread through the Basic HTML version of Gmail---which, by the way, selects for you if quoted text appears above or below your reply. There is even a more barebones version of Gmail, the mobile version you can run in your browser. I don't think I will be posting through the Groups interface on principle. On 7/28/12, Paul Stamsen pwseventy...@bresnan.net wrote: On 7/27/12 2:11 pm, MaGioZal wrote: On 7/27/12 4:49 PM, Paul Stamsen atpaterfami...@gmail.com wrote: P.S. I dislike the new Google Groups interface. Blech! Newsgroups are supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex. Then you'll HATE the new FB Timeline!! ;) Well, first I was confused with the FB timeline, but with some time I'e got used to it -- because there are no way to turn back to the old interface, anyway... that's why I didn't go there! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 up and running, what about browsers?
Finally got my Dual 1.8 G5 online with an Airlink 101 Wireless N mini USB Adapter [as suggested on this list], and it is surfing fine. Couple issues. My Apple Studio flat screen display is only 1024 x 780. I was using it with an old G4 and Opera 10.10, specifically for one feature: the fit to width button. Opera 10.63 seems unstable on the G5 running Leopard, and Opera 10.10 looks outdated. What was the last stable, reliable version of Opera for PPC? Aurora is fast and stable, but, I am missing a third of every webpage, having to constantly scroll over. Is there anyway to get Aurora/Firefox to fit to screen width? Compared to my G4 I am not having too much trouble playing video right off the websites. I think my Flash is outdated because I can play Youtube and Hulu with no difficulty. It was mentioned here though that there is a way of always getting Quicktime to play video: what is that utility again? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 and ADC
I am finding some confusing, conflicting information online so I just want a clear definitive answer: I thought all G5's supported and had an ADC port. I currently have an older Apple Studio Display I really like, using it with a G4 DA. If I upgrade to a G5, I want to use this same monitor. So which G5's DON'T SUPPORT ADC? Given that I want a G5 with ADC, which would be the best one to get? Reliability would be the top priority, then lower power consumption. While I am posting, let me also ask if the G4 MDD all support ADC. Did any MDD come with USB 2? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 DA won't boot into 9.1
Thanks to everyone who has been responding to my questions; I was able to find an online upgrade to 9.2.2, and can now boot into it. However, it installed without any Airport extensions or control panels. I wonder why. How would I add them? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 DA won't boot into 9.1
Ok, so, is there some minimum OS 9 requirement for a G4 DA to boot into 9? Here is what occured. I found an old hard drive of mine that had 9.1 on it, and I installed it in the G4. Upon restart, the hard drive was visible in the Finder; in fact, 2 drives appeared--- I think i must have made a small emergency boot partition on this drives years ago [2004 is when I last used it]. Now, first question. Was I supposed to press some sort of reset button or cuda switch when I installed the drive? Is it too late? I see 2 small buttons on the front of the mac under the power button. 2nd question. The Panther install this mac has did not seem to have any OS 9 on it whatsoever. I had copied a 9 i had on an iBook, but, it gave error messages launching classic so I gave up on it. So tonite, I renamed that 9 to previous system folder, then copied the system folder from my old hard drive to my boot drive. It launched Classic but did not want to launch Classilla--said could not find 'find by content' and other missing components. I REALIZED that 7 years ago, I had turned off a lot of extensions; so I had to turn all on in the Classic preferences. Ok, so now, Classic is running fine, but, still no botting into 9 even when I set the System Preferences to boot into 9 from the correct folder. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 and Airport Extreme
So it looks like I might bite the bullet and buy this particular G5 just so I can run Leopard and sync with the recently acquired 2nd gen ipod touch. It sure would save time on the various workarounds proposed here for my G4. Local seller wants $100; inside is 1 gig of ram and a nice 500 gb hard drive [is that a decent deal?]. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_1.8_dp.html Now, what it does NOT have is an Airport Extreme card installed. Ok, so another mac has entered the picture, a MDD at the same price [$100] with these specs: G4 dual 1.25GHz processors 2GB PC2700 DDR RAM from Crucial 80GB IDE hard drive Pioneer DVD-R drive Zip 750MB removable drive NVIDIA GeForce Titanium 4600 128MB graphics card Airport Extreme wireless card [pci card running at extreme speed] i believe a usb 2 card will be tossed in the deal So which is the better deal? G5 has half the memory, and i am concerned about the reliability of G5's, and the electrical usage. Whatever I buy needs to last a while. However, it has a huge 500 gig hard drive, and will come with the Leopard disks I need to sync the ipod touch. But, it does NOT have an airport card at all, i MIGHT be able to dig one out of my dead ibook, but the install on the G5 doesn't look that easy. The MDD will only lack the Leopard install, but acquring that disk might also cost as much and eb as much trouble as installing airport on the G5. So, G4 or G5? Mainly using this to manage itunes collection, get fast web performance, and manage my thousands of text documents while trying to stay ahead of Apple and tis wicked upgrade reaper. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G5 and Airport Extreme
So it looks like I might bite the bullet and buy this particular G5 just so I can run Leopard and sync with the recently acquired 2nd gen ipod touch. It sure would save time on the various workarounds proposed here for my G4. Local seller wants $100; inside is 1 gig of ram and a nice 500 gb hard drive [is that a decent deal?]. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/stats/powermac_g5_1.8_dp.html Now, what it does NOT have is an Airport Extreme card installed. I have one in my dead G4 iBook. Could I just swap it in? Is it real easy to install in the G5, like just sliding it in place as in the G4? This particular model does NOT require the special bluetooth card, correct? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 and ipod touch, gen 2
I recently received an ipod touch, gen 2. I never messed around with one before and was surprised to discover it requires itunes 10 to do anything with my macs---the most advanced being my s/o's macbook pro that runs tiger. I'd prefer to charge and load it on my G4. So I am wondering what my options are here or a workaround. I'd at least want to add some of my music to its 8 gigs. Could i upload music like to a dropbox and ahve the ipod see and download it? Is there some downgrade of iOS? Does it absolutely require usb2 to charge? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 recovery
The files that I did move over, came over read-only. About 30 folders, thousands of files. I can change permissions individually, manually via Get Info, but is there a way to change them all with a fewer set of commands, even through Terminal? The DA was able to see the DVD drive on the imac even through the ethernet cable. However, when I tried to run the installer, it said can't install this software on this computer. If I remove the hard drive from the imac and plant it in the DA, I'd assume there would be no ownership issues or problems accessing the files, correct? Seems immensely difficult to get to that hard drive, though. I am trying to work with these older macs spending as little as possible on upgrades and so forth, so I'd prefer to just get Tiger on the DA without sourcing a one use only dvd drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 recovery
Some of you may recall, i had a few macs crash on me all at once. My iMac G4 lost video for some reason. Anyway, I hooked up the iMac G4 to my G4 DA through an ethernet crossover cable for 2 reasons: 1. I'd like to try to recover as much data off the imac as I can 2. I'd like to upgrade the DA to Tiger. The DA only has a cd drive while the imac has dvd, so i'd like to do a network upgrade Right now, for some reason, the setup is letting me copy files from the imac to the DA but, not from certain directories in the home folder such as musci, movies, pictures. Other stuff, even folders I created in the home directory, iI can move. Why is that? What is my easiest workaround? I of course have passwords to both machines, panther and tiger disks. How would I get control of the imac? I can launch its system prefs but it immediately closes. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 or G5?
After several sudden mac failures, all around the time of the demise of Steve Jobs, I have been trying to get by the past few months on a G4 466, entirely stock, original 30gig hard drive with only Panther on it, no dvd drive to even install Tiger. i have sort of collected numerous questions to strategize on how to maximize this current situation, which I will now present: 1. I have had chances to grab various G5's for between $100 and $150. I have been hesitant because I have ehard they use so much power. Do they really use that much more power than a G4? How much more? My other hesitation, and my biggest overall frustration is once again the OS/browser limitations for PPC. At this point, I am using Opera 10.10 with javascript always off just to be able to get decent surfing speeds. I like Opera because of the ability to toggle the fit to width of webpages on my Apple Studio Display. It is such a nice monitor, I do not want to really upgrade to a mac that won;t be able to use it without an espensive adapter. Would a G5 running Tiger really be worth the investment and supposed energy cost? I would not want to pay an extra $250 a year, over the G4 power price. 2. I've tried to locate a processor upgrade for this DA. Would a processor out of a MDD work? I really can't see paying more than $25 for an upgrade, though, maybe someone could point me to a really great, easy to install upgrade card. How hard is it to just swap the motherboard out with a latter G4. like a MDD? By the way, what exactly does the Digital Audio do in this machine that isnt done in other G4's? I am running my old Apple Pro speakers from my dead iMac and the sound is just the same. 3. For software I am stuck in Panther, unless and until I can get my Tiger hard drive inside there, which is stuck inside the dead G4 imac.. By the way, I can figure out how to install another hard drive on the same ribbon, but supposedly one can install more than 2 hard drives---but where are the other ribbons and cables supposed to be? I see I can upgrade quicktime to 7.5, but, wasn't there some reason to stick with 6 instead? 4. My s/o has a macbook pro with an Intel Tiger install disk. Could this be used to install on a hacintosh, like 10.6? Should I just give upgrading the G4 and go hacintosh or Ubuntu on some pc? I could probably find a useable donor pc laptop for the $150 a G5 would cost me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
