Re: AGP Video Card Selection

2012-03-09 Thread David W. Morris

On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

Would someone suggest a good agp video card, available today, that I  
can use in my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz under 10.5.8?


I want to purchase a Samsung 22 HDTV for use as a monitor, and it  
requires HDMI input. Perhaps a video card with a DVI connector, as I  
have an extra DVI to HDMI adapter.


I guess the key phrase is available today ... not sure about where  
they are being sold these days, reasonably priced, for a G4.


I currently have a Geforce 4MX in my Quicksilver, and an ATI Radeon  
9800Pro in my DA Dual 533 (its DVI to HDMI is being used with a Sony  
Bravia from time to time). Another ATI Radeon 9800Pro is probably  
too much of a card for what I will be using it for ... I'm not a  
gamer.


Thanks.


Another option (instead of the FireGL X3 that I suggested in another  
email) that is fast, has a DVI output and you might be able to find,  
is a used ATI Radeon 8500, but not the LE version.  The LE version is  
as slow as the 9100.  If you check old benchmarks, the 8500 was faster  
than many of the Radeon video cards that were released after it.  I am  
in the process of having a 128mb VRAM version of a PC ATI Radeon 8500  
converted to use in my dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac MDD.  In fact I packed  
it today and will be sending it to the guy for re-flashing it  
tomorrow.  I can't remember what I paid for it on eBay, as I bought it  
many months ago.


Unfortunately, the Mac bios will only recognize 64mb of the available  
128mb of VRAM, but I am searching the Web tonight and the next couple  
of days hoping to find someone who has figured out a way to get all  
128mb of VRAM recognized when used in a G4 Mac computer.  I hope that  
I will find a modified Mac bios for this card that can use all 128mb  
of VRAM.


Good luck,
David

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Re: AGP Video Card Selection

2012-03-09 Thread David W. Morris

On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

Would someone suggest a good agp video card, available today, that I  
can use in my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz under 10.5.8?


I want to purchase a Samsung 22 HDTV for use as a monitor, and it  
requires HDMI input. Perhaps a video card with a DVI connector, as I  
have an extra DVI to HDMI adapter.


I guess the key phrase is available today ... not sure about where  
they are being sold these days, reasonably priced, for a G4.


I currently have a Geforce 4MX in my Quicksilver, and an ATI Radeon  
9800Pro in my DA Dual 533 (its DVI to HDMI is being used with a Sony  
Bravia from time to time). Another ATI Radeon 9800Pro is probably  
too much of a card for what I will be using it for ... I'm not a  
gamer.


Thanks.



The ATI Radeon FireGL X3 is a 16 pipeline 8xAGP 256mb video card that  
can be purchased for cheap as a PC version on eBay.  Unfortunately,  
not all of the cheap PC cards on eBay can be successfully converted  
for use in a Mac.  There is a reseller on eBay that is doing the  
conversions, plus he puts them through a 4 to 7 day torture test, to  
make sure that they are not going to fail after he sells them.  He  
charges about $170 to $180 for them, I can't remember the exact  
amount.  You have to modify the pins on the card by covering 2 or 3 of  
them with tape, as the AGP slot in your QuickSilver Mac is not  
standard electrically, when compared to PC 4xAGP slots, as Apple used  
a few pins for ADC power that were outside of the standard 4xAGP  
specification, so the later 8xAGP cards would not work in the Mac  
slots without having a few pins taped to prevent damage to the video  
card, and possibly the computer as well.


It is all well documented, if you do some searching.  Try  
themacelite to find more information.  If you are interested in the  
eBay seller who is doing the conversions and can't find him, send me a  
private email and I will look back through my saved emails to see if I  
can find him.  He is a video card expert and converts and sells many  
different cards for use in Macs.  The FireGL X3 is one of my personal  
favorites, and I am getting one for my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac, so it  
needs no modification of the AGP card edge pins.


David
aka AmigaDave
dual booting MacOSX  MorphOS2.7 on my dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac MDD,   
dual booting MacOSX  MorphOS3.0 beta on 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's 15   
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Re: AGP Video Card Selection

2012-03-09 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 7-03-2012 5:29, Bill Connelly ha scritto:

 Would someone suggest a good agp video card, available today, that I
 can use in my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz under 10.5.8?

 I currently have a Geforce 4MX in my Quicksilver

I see some people are selling Geforce 4MX (because they're switching to
something faster).
If you're ok with its average performances (no 3D or heavy gaming, of
course), it should be cheap and easy to find.

Try on the LEM Swap list:
http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html
(it's about selling/buying used Mac stuff)

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Re: AGP Video Card Selection

2012-03-09 Thread Bill Connelly


On Mar 9, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:


Il giorno 7-03-2012 5:29, Bill Connelly ha scritto:


Would someone suggest a good agp video card, available today, that I
can use in my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz under 10.5.8?



I currently have a Geforce 4MX in my Quicksilver


I see some people are selling Geforce 4MX (because they're switching  
to

something faster).
If you're ok with its average performances (no 3D or heavy gaming, of
course), it should be cheap and easy to find.

Try on the LEM Swap list:
http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html
(it's about selling/buying used Mac stuff)



I'm looking for suggestions for cards with a DVI connector, that can  
utilize my DVI to HDMI adapter.


The ATI Radeon 9800 Pro that I have does so nicely, I just don't want  
to buy another expensive video card such as that.


My Geforce 4MX doesn't have DVI, and it is showing signs of  
failure ... occasionally it will seem to discharge or make my screen  
blip out for a second. Maybe its the monitor, maybe its the card. They  
are both quite oldish ...


I had said I wanted a  22 backlit LED/LCD TV from Samsung, but I  
really want something a little bigger 26-27 or so, as far as monitors  
goes.


The LEM Swap list is fine, but it is not a discussion group.

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Re: AGP Video Card Selection

2012-03-09 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 9-03-2012 21:49, Bill Connelly ha scritto:

 I'm looking for suggestions for cards with a DVI connector, that can
 utilize my DVI to HDMI adapter.
 [...]
 The LEM Swap list is fine, but it is not a discussion group.

Well, you could post a WTB (Willing To Buy) msg there, saying you're looking
for such a card.

No discussion, just asking. :-)

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AGP Video Card Selection

2012-03-08 Thread Bill Connelly
Would someone suggest a good agp video card, available today, that I  
can use in my Quicksilver Dual 1GHz under 10.5.8?


I want to purchase a Samsung 22 HDTV for use as a monitor, and it  
requires HDMI input. Perhaps a video card with a DVI connector, as I  
have an extra DVI to HDMI adapter.


I guess the key phrase is available today ... not sure about where  
they are being sold these days, reasonably priced, for a G4.


I currently have a Geforce 4MX in my Quicksilver, and an ATI Radeon  
9800Pro in my DA Dual 533 (its DVI to HDMI is being used with a Sony  
Bravia from time to time). Another ATI Radeon 9800Pro is probably too  
much of a card for what I will be using it for ... I'm not a gamer.


Thanks.

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