Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
It does SEEM like a waste of HDD space, but i forgot to mention, ann of
those 4 Os's only take up 26.9GB of my 750GB EIDE HDD. So, pleny of room
there. I put all of those Os's there becuase i enjoy moving back and fourth
between different systems for different reasons.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-06 Thread PM7500
The dual 1ghz is one of the ones that can still boot into 9, I think.
If it is, you should have no trouble running Leopard and 9.2.2. Since
it's bootable to 9, you don't need Classic mode. You get the best of
all worlds with that setup with only the minor inconvenience of having
to reboot to use classic software. If even that minor inconvenience is
too much for you, then go with Tiger.

On Apr 4, 12:38 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
 following specs:

 Hardware Overview:

   Machine Name: Power Mac G4
   Machine Model:        PowerMac3,6
   CPU Type:     PowerPC G4  (2.1)
   Number Of CPUs:       2
   CPU Speed:    1 GHz
   L2 Cache (per CPU):   256 KB
   L3 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
   Memory:       2 GB
   Bus Speed:    133 MHz
   Boot ROM Version:     4.4.8f2

 What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

 Thanks!
 -Jonas

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-06 Thread Mark Sokolovsky

  I triple-booted my system with OS 9.2.2, Tiger, and Leopard. The more,
 the better. Not always do you need 3 or 2 system like i do, but i do run
 classic programs, so sometimes i run tiger.


Edit: I also have a 4th system on it, Jaguar. it's my PM G4 Graphite.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-06 Thread PM7500
I think that's just a waste of hard drive space to have all those
systems installed. All you really need is 9 for classic apps and
either Tiger or Leopard for OS X apps. It doesn't make much sense to
have more than one version of X installed since the later ones can do
everything the earlier ones can do and more.

On Apr 6, 6:08 am, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
   I triple-booted my system with OS 9.2.2, Tiger, and Leopard. The more,
  the better. Not always do you need 3 or 2 system like i do, but i do run
  classic programs, so sometimes i run tiger.

 Edit: I also have a 4th system on it, Jaguar. it's my PM G4 Graphite.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-06 Thread dorayme



dc dbc...@verizon.net Apr 05 05:23AM -0700 ^

I want a bit
 of company on Tiger. It sure is doing real well for something  
obsolete.


You've got lots of company, Tiger's a good system for older Macs, but
Leo has 2 substantial improvements. Time Machine is the most obvious,
keeping things backed up is an important task. Sometimes our old Macs
run so well for so long that we neglect backups, then a hard drive
fails and The second is less obvious, it's the way Leo runs
Software Update. Many people have screwed up their Tiger OS by running
something while Software Update is optimizing the system, leading to
an unbootable OS. Leo shuts down all other running processes when
running a system update that requires optimizing, it's Apple's answer
to the large number of complaints from 10.4 users.


Thanks for this info. Years back I had noticed that software update  
screwed my machine but had no real idea if anyone else had my  
problem. I solved my problem by never letting it actually update  
things all by itself. I chose (and still do on my Tiger G4) a  
download only option and later I install the packages. It is a  
nuisance this method of mine because I sometimes forget or delay so  
much that I then get confused what I have updated and what not.  I  
tried to help out by making comment notes in the Get Info panel -  
stuff like installed on 1/3/2008 But comments can get lost, they  
are not reliably araldited on to files! So my eyes open wide hearing  
about this Leopard innovation.


I may have had an inkling of this because recently I bought a Macbook  
with Snow on it and I don't think there was a download option?  
Anyway, being so new I thought it unlikely to face troubles and so  
far there have been none on Snow on the MB.


(You know, I basically went from 6 to 8 and barely knew 7 (a brief  
installation of 7 on an SE30 to work a printer for a few months when  
overseas), I am doing the MacOS leap again from Tiger to Snow! Not  
sure if any other regular Mac users have these huge holes in their  
Mac histories. g)


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Re: Best OS for MDD (Possible OT)

2010-04-06 Thread Albert Carter
I hear you on this.

I went from Macintosh Plus (original OS) to a Macintosh IIsi (7.6.1) to a G4 
Quicksilver 933 running Mac OSX Server 10.4. Huge Gaps.

Albert






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(You know, I basically went from 6 to 8 and barely knew 7 (a brief installation 
of 7 on an SE30 to work a printer for a few months when overseas), I am doing 
the MacOS leap again from Tiger to Snow! Not sure if any other regular Mac 
users have these huge holes in their Mac histories. g)

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-06 Thread JoeTaxpayer
I have multiple G4 MDD machines. One came with Leopard (I had Tiger
before on others) and I was happy enough with it that I bought it for
all the MDDs in the house. I think that these are great systems,
workhorses that are at the top of the performance per $ scale if one
can compose such a chart.

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Re: Best OS for MDD (Possible OT)

2010-04-06 Thread Samuel Macomber
somewhat the same here.

Mac Plus from 3rd grade through high school(powermac 9500 came out just before 
I graduated) ,   powerbook 180/IIci first 1/2 of college   BWG3 for the 
rest(first new mac),  two years ago got a QS G4 for free.ended up getting a 
bigger tax return that I had predicted to I caved and got a brand new intel 
mini (I love it!) 

have had other macs,  but they were all very old/broken so either free or only 
$5-10,  just something for me to waste time tinkering with :)  

still have my Plus, IIci and the QS. Plus is set up for my 4 year old to 
play The Manhole on (and me to play beyond dark castle) IIci is up now as a 
hotline server,  seeing if there is any life left in hotline.  (and used to 
play spectre and net trek with the plus (scsi ethernet set up on the plus,  
really need more RAM though).  QS is in the basement to play music and google 
if I get stuck on a project ;)

-sam

 I hear you on this.
 
 I went from Macintosh Plus (original OS) to a Macintosh IIsi (7.6.1) to a G4 
 Quicksilver 933 running Mac OSX Server 10.4. Huge Gaps.
 
 Albert
 
 
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 any other regular Mac users have these huge holes in their Mac histories. g)
 
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Re: Best OS for MDD (Possible OT)

2010-04-06 Thread Baha Ata
if there is dual 1.4 on MDD or more, why not 10.5

2010/4/7 Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com

 I hear you on this.

 I went from Macintosh Plus (original OS) to a Macintosh IIsi (7.6.1) to a
 G4 Quicksilver 933 running Mac OSX Server 10.4. Huge Gaps.

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 (You know, I basically went from 6 to 8 and barely knew 7 (a brief
 installation of 7 on an SE30 to work a printer for a few months when
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 any other regular Mac users have these huge holes in their Mac histories.
 g)

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-05 Thread Charles Lenington

Peter wrote:

Why not just use Leopard? It would work even better.

Peter M.
  
Maybe because we have stable systems and don't want to install the leos 
gathering dust on shelf.


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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-05 Thread dorayme

Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Apr 04 05:02PM -0700 ^

On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote:

 What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

 Tiger latest.

Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac? A
dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well.


Can't speak for others but my motivation is loneliness, I want a bit  
of company on Tiger. It sure is doing real well for something obsolete.


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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-05 Thread dc
I want a bit  
 of company on Tiger. It sure is doing real well for something obsolete.

You've got lots of company, Tiger's a good system for older Macs, but
Leo has 2 substantial improvements. Time Machine is the most obvious,
keeping things backed up is an important task. Sometimes our old Macs
run so well for so long that we neglect backups, then a hard drive
fails and  The second is less obvious, it's the way Leo runs
Software Update. Many people have screwed up their Tiger OS by running
something while Software Update is optimizing the system, leading to
an unbootable OS. Leo shuts down all other running processes when
running a system update that requires optimizing, it's Apple's answer
to the large number of complaints from 10.4 users.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-05 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Here's a simple answer, straight up.

If you want performance, movies, and all of that stuff, go with Tiger.

If you want newer programs, compatability, (not saying that leopard is
slow, but..) and movies, but basically all of the features of tiger
but newer? Go with Leopard.

If you want extreme speed, go with OS 9 or Jaguar. They are such light
systems, it's not even funny.

Jaguar = Mac OS X 10.2-10.2.8
Tiger = Mac OS X 10.4-10.4.11
Leopard = Mac OS X 10.5-10.5.8

I know this won't be the name for Mac OS X 10.7, but imagine as an
april fools joke, apple releases Mac OS X 10.7 next year with just a
modified version of Snow leopard to look different, and on the box
there is a picture of a Orage tabby hanging on to a celing fan while
it's rotating, and on the box, it goes like this:

Mac OS X 10.7
  Lolcats


or Mac OS X 10.7
  Celingcats

On 4/5/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 On Apr 5, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:

 Peter wrote:
 Why not just use Leopard? It would work even better.

 Peter M.

 Maybe because we have stable systems and don't want to install the
 leos gathering dust on shelf.

 ??

 10.5 is very stable, even on PPC machines, and it has the advantage
 that Spotlight actually *works*.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-05 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
If i mislead anyone, sorry about that. Leopard is a pretty good
system. On my last message it says tiger is faster, well it is, but
leopard is fast too.

On 4/5/10, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's a simple answer, straight up.

 If you want performance, movies, and all of that stuff, go with Tiger.

 If you want newer programs, compatability, (not saying that leopard is
 slow, but..) and movies, but basically all of the features of tiger
 but newer? Go with Leopard.

 If you want extreme speed, go with OS 9 or Jaguar. They are such light
 systems, it's not even funny.

 Jaguar = Mac OS X 10.2-10.2.8
 Tiger = Mac OS X 10.4-10.4.11
 Leopard = Mac OS X 10.5-10.5.8

 I know this won't be the name for Mac OS X 10.7, but imagine as an
 april fools joke, apple releases Mac OS X 10.7 next year with just a
 modified version of Snow leopard to look different, and on the box
 there is a picture of a Orage tabby hanging on to a celing fan while
 it's rotating, and on the box, it goes like this:

 Mac OS X 10.7
   Lolcats


 or Mac OS X 10.7
   Celingcats

 On 4/5/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote:

 On Apr 5, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:

 Peter wrote:
 Why not just use Leopard? It would work even better.

 Peter M.

 Maybe because we have stable systems and don't want to install the
 leos gathering dust on shelf.

 ??

 10.5 is very stable, even on PPC machines, and it has the advantage
 that Spotlight actually *works*.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-05 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Apr 5, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote:



or Mac OS X 10.7
 Celingcats


Ceiling cat disapproves of your blasphemy. :-P

http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1


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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Brian Fuelleman
Part of the answer is going to depend upon what you want this machine to do.
What program or programs do you want or need to run on it?
Will this be set in network with other CPUs or will this be a solo operating 
machine?
While OS 9.2.2 may run fastest and use the least amount of ram, if you can't 
run the program(s) you need to,  or can't network with other computers when 
using it then it doesn't help you out.
Finding the balance between the needs and capabilities with speed and 
compatibilities is the trick.




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Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 9:38:07 PM
Subject: Best OS for MDD

Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
following specs:

Hardware Overview:

  Machine Name:Power Mac G4
  Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
  CPU Type:PowerPC G4  (2.1)
  Number Of CPUs:2
  CPU Speed:1 GHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):256 KB
  L3 Cache (per CPU):2 MB
  Memory:2 GB
  Bus Speed:133 MHz
  Boot ROM Version:4.4.8f2

What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

Thanks!
-Jonas

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Charles Lenington

Jonas Ulrich wrote:

Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
following specs:

Hardware Overview:

  Machine Name: Power Mac G4
  Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
  CPU Type: PowerPC G4  (2.1)
  Number Of CPUs:   2
  CPU Speed:1 GHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):   256 KB
  L3 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
  Memory:   2 GB
  Bus Speed:133 MHz
  Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2

What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

Thanks!
-Jonas

  

x.4.11 on my 2

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Steve Thompson

On 04/04/2010 05:38, Jonas Ulrich wrote:

Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
following specs:

Hardware Overview:

   Machine Name:Power Mac G4
   Machine Model:   PowerMac3,6
   CPU Type:PowerPC G4  (2.1)
   Number Of CPUs:  2
   CPU Speed:   1 GHz
   L2 Cache (per CPU):  256 KB
   L3 Cache (per CPU):  2 MB
   Memory:  2 GB
   Bus Speed:   133 MHz
   Boot ROM Version:4.4.8f2

What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

Thanks!
-Jonas

   


My G4 1ghz cpu 1.2gb ram runs sweet on Tiger
..
Steve

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Vic


On Apr 3, 10:38 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
 following specs:

 Hardware Overview:

   Machine Name: Power Mac G4
   Machine Model:        PowerMac3,6
   CPU Type:     PowerPC G4  (2.1)
   Number Of CPUs:       2
   CPU Speed:    1 GHz
   L2 Cache (per CPU):   256 KB
   L3 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
   Memory:       2 GB
   Bus Speed:    133 MHz
   Boot ROM Version:     4.4.8f2

 What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

 Thanks!
 -Jonas

Tiger is the cat for that Mac.
V Mabus

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread John Carmonne

On Apr 4, 2010, at 6:18 AM, Vic wrote:

 
 
 On Apr 3, 10:38 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
 following specs:
 
 Hardware Overview:
 
   Machine Name: Power Mac G4
   Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
   CPU Type: PowerPC G4  (2.1)
   Number Of CPUs:   2
   CPU Speed:1 GHz
   L2 Cache (per CPU):   256 KB
   L3 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
   Memory:   2 GB
   Bus Speed:133 MHz
   Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2
 
 What would be the fastest/best OS for this?


What do you have for a display? Which video card? !0.5.8 has spaces that work 
real nice also the DVD player is better than Tiger. But all in all I  think 
Tiger rocks on any PPC.
But That's just me.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP


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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread dorayme

Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com Apr 03 09:38PM -0700 ^

Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
following specs:

Hardware Overview:

Machine Name:   Power Mac G4
Machine Model:  PowerMac3,6
CPU Type:   PowerPC G4 (2.1)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed:  1 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed:  133 MHz
Boot ROM Version:   4.4.8f2

What would be the fastest/best OS for this?


Tiger latest.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote:


What would be the fastest/best OS for this?


Tiger latest.


Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac? A  
dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well.


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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Ken Daggett


On 4 Apr 2010, at 17:02:41 PDT, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote:


What would be the fastest/best OS for this?


Tiger latest.


Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac?  
A dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well.

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Well, I use Classic or OS9 once in a while. I don't
believe 10.5 supports Classic.

Ken
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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Peter
Why not just use Leopard? It would work even better.

Peter M.


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-Original Message-
From: dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:38:51 
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best OS for MDD

 Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com Apr 03 09:38PM -0700 ^

 Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
 following specs:

 Hardware Overview:

 Machine Name: Power Mac G4
 Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1)
 Number Of CPUs:   2
 CPU Speed:1 GHz
 L2 Cache (per CPU):   256 KB
 L3 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
 Memory:   2 GB
 Bus Speed:133 MHz
 Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2

 What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

Tiger latest.

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Re: Best OS for MDD

2010-04-04 Thread Frank J. R. Hanstick

Hello,
	I upgraded my QuickSilver to a Newer Technology dual 1.73 GHz PowerPC  
G4 and have little problem beyond a protection violation once in a  
while; but, that is neither here nor there.  MacOS 10.5 does not  
support classic, so I have MacOS 10.5.8 on one drive and MacOS 10.4.11  
w/ OS 9.2 on another.  The system normally boots into 10.5.  If I wish  
to use 10.4 w/ Classic, I just hold down the option key when booting.


On Apr 4, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:



On 4 Apr 2010, at 17:02:41 PDT, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:38 PM, dorayme wrote:


What would be the fastest/best OS for this?


Tiger latest.


Why does everyone want him to run a nearly obsolete OS on his Mac?  
A dual 1Ghz system will run 10.5 perfectly well.

---
Well, I use Classic or OS9 once in a while. I don't
believe 10.5 supports Classic.

Ken
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Best OS for MDD

2010-04-03 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Hi all, looking for some advice here. I have a MDD Tower with the
following specs:

Hardware Overview:

  Machine Name: Power Mac G4
  Machine Model:PowerMac3,6
  CPU Type: PowerPC G4  (2.1)
  Number Of CPUs:   2
  CPU Speed:1 GHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):   256 KB
  L3 Cache (per CPU):   2 MB
  Memory:   2 GB
  Bus Speed:133 MHz
  Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2

What would be the fastest/best OS for this?

Thanks!
-Jonas

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