Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
I just looked at this website and it says that using this hack might make your Mac un-bootable if you are using 10.4.3 and above. What gives? On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:24 AM, skyking...@verizon.net wrote: On Apr 11, 3:06 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Quartz Extreme is enabled with PCI Extreme 3.1 available from MacUpdate: Not for 10.4.3 and up. I'm running 10.4.11. No. This is wrong. It works fine in 10.4.11 on all my older Macs, including two Beige. You need to try again. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 11, 3:06 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Quartz Extreme is enabled with PCI Extreme 3.1 available from MacUpdate: Not for 10.4.3 and up. I'm running 10.4.11. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:24 AM, skyking...@verizon.net wrote: On Apr 11, 3:06 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Quartz Extreme is enabled with PCI Extreme 3.1 available from MacUpdate: Not for 10.4.3 and up. I'm running 10.4.11. No. This is wrong. It works fine in 10.4.11 on all my older Macs, including two Beige. You need to try again. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 12, 1:39 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Apr 12, 2009, at 10:24 AM, skyking...@verizon.net wrote: On Apr 11, 3:06 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Quartz Extreme is enabled with PCI Extreme 3.1 available from MacUpdate: Not for 10.4.3 and up. I'm running 10.4.11. No. This is wrong. It works fine in 10.4.11 on all my older Macs, including two Beige. You need to try again. Here is what it says on the MacUpdate web site: As of 10.4.3 or so, this hack stopped working and started rendering machines unbootable. Please do not try to run this software on 10.4.3 or above. If you have and you want to get your machine working again, you need to take: PCI Extreme 3.1/PCI Extreme.app/Contents/Resources/CoreGraphics and overwrite: /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ Frameworks/CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/CoreGraphics Based on this, I'm afraid to try it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
A flashed Radeon 7000 with 64 MB RAM will give you a VGA port, then you can use any new LCD (you might need a HDMI - VGA adapter), they are very affordable now. Take the old CRT to a recycling center where it can be disposed of properly. On Apr 10, 2:44 pm, William Hatchell wmhatch...@gmail.com wrote: I've always used a large, heavy Apple CRT with my Beige G3 Minitower. Are there any other display options? Are the early Apple LCD displays compatible, and if so, what extra cables, adapters, etc. are needed? Thanks! Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
i've been using a ViewSonic 930m 19 LCD monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200 video card with my Beige G3 (500 MHz G4 processor) for about two years now and love 'em. Quartz Extreme is not supported, but I have had no problems. The combination works well in both Tiger (10.4.11) and OS 9.2.2. I have the RAM maxed out to 768 MB. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 11, 2009, at 3:02 PM, skyking...@verizon.net wrote: Quartz Extreme is not supported Quartz Extreme is enabled with PCI Extreme 3.1 available from MacUpdate: http://www.macupdate.com/download.php/8979/pciextreme3.1.zip It will speed up things more than the G4 CPU. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Display Options with Beige G3?
I've always used a large, heavy Apple CRT with my Beige G3 Minitower. Are there any other display options? Are the early Apple LCD displays compatible, and if so, what extra cables, adapters, etc. are needed? Thanks! Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On 10 Apr 2009, at 11:44:46 PDT, William Hatchell wrote: I've always used a large, heavy Apple CRT with my Beige G3 Minitower. Are there any other display options? Are the early Apple LCD displays compatible, and if so, what extra cables, adapters, etc. are needed? Thanks! Will --- Cheapest is to get a Mac=VGA adapter and you can connect to any VGA monitor such as a cheap flat panel display. Better output from a PCI Video card, such as a PCI Radeon 7000 (Mac Edition or flashed PC card). Then you will have faster and better video output. You can use a good flat panel monitor with higher resolution. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
William Hatchell wrote: I've always used a large, heavy Apple CRT with my Beige G3 Minitower. Are there any other display options? Are the early Apple LCD displays compatible, and if so, what extra cables, adapters, etc. are needed? Thanks! No, AFAIK all the early Apple CRTs used Apple's ADC connector. This uses 28V power not available on your G3. I'd just use a VGA LCD. You may need a VGA adapter, depending on your video board. You can get a 17 monitor for under $100 if you shop around. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Clark Martin wrote: I'd just use a VGA LCD. You may need a VGA adapter, depending on your video board. You can get a 17 monitor for under $100 if you shop around. 19/20 SVGA LCD displays are so competitively priced there is little reason NOT to go with one of them. I have an Envision, and it calibrates quite well, and gives very good results, this notwithstanding its 75 Hz maximum frame rate. I use it at 1280 x 1024, millions of colors, on all machines, through a 4-way USB KVM. For Beiges, 19 CRTs are a sure thing. These are not as tolerant of displays, or of KVMs. I use these directly. For later models, I wouldn't use a CRT ... they're just too heavy, and too retro. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Clark Martin wrote: William Hatchell wrote: I've always used a large, heavy Apple CRT with my Beige G3 Minitower. Are there any other display options? Are the early Apple LCD displays compatible, and if so, what extra cables, adapters, etc. are needed? Thanks! No, AFAIK all the early Apple CRTs used Apple's ADC connector. This uses 28V power not available on your G3. The very first Apple LCD's used VGA connectors, and will work perfectly well on that Beige with a Mac- VGA adapter, I've done it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
