Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

2010-08-26 Thread Ted Treen






From: John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com
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Subject: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello group,  I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work.
  No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face.  Not the mac
 face. Any ideas.  I am not too hep on this stuff.  If it doesn't have a
 fatal problem or such I would like to get it  up and running.

Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.

Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)
that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a
? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ...
perhaps?

-irrational john



Irrational John is perfectly rational - and correct.  That is indeed what this 
means. The chime tells you its initial hardware test has deemed all to be OK, 
and the folder with the ? means it can't find a file system from which to boot.

The chime by the way, doesn't mean it's checked for the presence of a hard disk.

Ted

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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

2010-08-26 Thread Richard Gerome
 Try holding down: the shift key and the P+R when you boot it up and see if this fixes it??? If not you might have to download the OS or do a clean and reinstall??? I used to run into this with my Clamshells once in a great while after running them for months on end, then one day that folder with ? shows up... I always did a clean and reinstall till one day I read about zapping the pram which is what the shift+P+R is about...<ted.tr...@btinternet.com>From: John Martz zjo...@yahoo.comTo: g3-5-list@googlegroups.comSent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 6:33:08Subject: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello group, I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to
 see if it will work. No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face. Not the mac face. Any ideas. I am not too hep on this stuff. If it doesn't have a fatal problem or such I would like to get it up and running.Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a? I would guess might be an icon to indicate "no file system" ...perhaps?-irrational johnIrrational John is perfectly rational - and correct. That is indeed what this means. The chime tells you its initial hardware test has deemed all to be OK, and the folder with the ? means it can't find a file system from which to boot.The chime by the way, doesn't mean it's checked for the presence of a hard
 disk.Ted







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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

2010-08-26 Thread Gus
The Chime usually comes up pretty early in the P.O.S.T. Long before it
goes out and checks for the system.  I would start to wonder if there
wasn't an audio issue  You can try reseting the pram and listing
for additional chimes and see if you here them.. I would suspect that
if the original startup chime isn't heard, neither will be the ones
for the pram reset... But the screen should turn off and on as you
hold it down and it cycles through each reset.

Do you have the system CD/DVD you could try to boot off of??

Gus.





On Aug 26, 12:33 am, John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hello group,  I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work.
   No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face.  Not the mac
  face. Any ideas.  I am not too hep on this stuff.  If it doesn't have a
  fatal problem or such I would like to get it  up and running.

 Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.

 Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)
 that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a
 ? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ...
 perhaps?

 -irrational john

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Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

2010-08-26 Thread Ted Treen

Gus wrote:

The Chime usually comes up pretty early in the P.O.S.T. Long before it
goes out and checks for the system.  I would start to wonder if there
wasn't an audio issue  You can try reseting the pram and listing
for additional chimes and see if you here them.. I would suspect that
if the original startup chime isn't heard, neither will be the ones
for the pram reset... But the screen should turn off and on as you
hold it down and it cycles through each reset.

Do you have the system CD/DVD you could try to boot off of??

Gus.

   


Resetting PRAM is a good idea.

The chime will have been muted IF the last owner/user set the Mac's 
sound volume to mute.


This also silences the system chime.

Resetting PRAM will turn volume setting back to default, then if there's 
still no chime, the cause lies elsewhere.


Ted

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G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?

2010-08-25 Thread John Martz
On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hello group,  I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work.
  No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face.  Not the mac
 face. Any ideas.  I am not too hep on this stuff.  If it doesn't have a
 fatal problem or such I would like to get it  up and running.

Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond.

Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2)
that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a
? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ...
perhaps?

-irrational john

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