Re: GeForce Ti Question
Part 2 get the meat of upgrading see: http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/4B4B7BA2-7ABB-47F1-87AC-B03D37942BEE.html Rick Houston On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:37 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Dana, Try this for some interesting reading. It doesnt say everything, but maybe it will get you closer. Read pages 1 and 2. http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/8923D90A-7AD8-41F1-BD1A-FEA5E1780B95.html Also, Make sure the fan is running. If the fan is not good on the card, I've READ that it can have an effect. There was some Apple support pages too but I cant find them. On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Dana Collins wrote: On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Dana, What monitor do you have? I just read some interesting info. On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. Hi Barney, I was using a simple Viewsonic 17” flat panel, AGP connected. -Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/21/11 2:37 PM, Baldassare Guzzo of guz...@gmail.com sent Dana, Try this for some interesting reading. It doesnt say everything, but maybe it will get you closer. Read pages 1 and 2. http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/8923D90A-7AD8-41F1-BD1A-FEA5E 1780B95.html Also, Make sure the fan is running. If the fan is not good on the card, I've READ that it can have an effect. There was some Apple support pages too but I cant find them. On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Dana Collins wrote: On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Dana, What monitor do you have? I just read some interesting info. On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. Hi Barney, I was using a simple Viewsonic 17² flat panel, AGP connected. -Dana Hello Barney, Good reading, thank you for the link. Basically, I have returned the card to its original unit running Tiger, and used a different ATI card for my friend's newer unit. The ATI is, I think, a 7500, admittedly less robust, BUT, if it works, then IT is more robust! Baldassare (Barney - here in America) Barney's easier, but Baldassare is morecosmopolitan! :-) Thank you for your continued input, and likewise to all the other contributors. Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana, What monitor do you have? I just read some interesting info. On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Dana, What monitor do you have? I just read some interesting info. On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. Hi Barney, I was using a simple Viewsonic 17² flat panel, AGP connected. -Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/21/11 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. Understood. Both ATI and Nvidia gave up, long ago, the simple procedure od stamping the model name/no. On the card (prob. Due to outsourcing sub-contracting tasks). This situation begs a larger question: just how does one determine the model of a card (short of installing it and hoping the OS gives an accurate report)? Is there a site somewhere that list part no.-to-model specs? Thanks for the input, Wayne. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Rock wrote: I have the same card running under Leopard in a dual 1.42 ghz mirrored door drive without any problems. It was also running in a dual 1 ghz mirrored door drive under Leopard with out any problems. I think your problem is machine specific. Possibly something in the firmware? Or the video card is marginal. Leopard pushes the video card harder than Tiger does. I had the very same sort of thing happen to me last week (on a pc, but it was an nVidia card, too) where someone wanted to hook up a 24 monitor to their PC. It worked, and the card is advertised as supporting the resolution needed, but the image kept getting artifacts and kept cutting in and out. We dialed the thing back to the original monitor again and everything's fine. My conclusion is it's a flaky video card; I suspect that this is your case as well. If it works AT ALL in Leopard for anyone it's not a driver issue, and artifacts are almost *always* linked to bad hardware rather than drivers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana, OK, this might be some help. I did some research and part of the problem might be this: If you go under the apple menu and do the about this mac and then more info and then graphics/displays you might see Core Image: It is not supported may be part of the problem in 10.5 on our QS's. Ill post more asap. Baldassare (Barney - here in America) On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Dana Collins wrote: On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Dana, What monitor do you have? I just read some interesting info. On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. Hi Barney, I was using a simple Viewsonic 17” flat panel, AGP connected. -Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On Jan 21, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Dana, OK, this might be some help. I did some research and part of the problem might be this: If you go under the apple menu and do the about this mac and then more info and then graphics/displays you might see Core Image: It is not supported may be part of the problem in 10.5 on our QS's. Ill post more asap. Core Image Not Supported simply means that Core Image system calls in software are handled by the CPU not the GPU on the card. It will make OS X slower, but it will NOT lead to video problems like you describe. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana, Try this for some interesting reading. It doesnt say everything, but maybe it will get you closer. Read pages 1 and 2. http://www.jcsenterprises.com/Japamacs_Page/Blog/8923D90A-7AD8-41F1- BD1A-FEA5E1780B95.html Also, Make sure the fan is running. If the fan is not good on the card, I've READ that it can have an effect. There was some Apple support pages too but I cant find them. On Jan 21, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Dana Collins wrote: On 1/21/11 6:03 AM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Dana, What monitor do you have? I just read some interesting info. On Jan 21, 2011 2:12 AM, Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. Hi Barney, I was using a simple Viewsonic 17” flat panel, AGP connected. -Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
GeForce Ti Question
Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I have a QS 2002 running 10.4.11 and the Ti4600. I replaced the Geforce 4 mx because the reviews said it was a much better card. I have not noticed a huge increase in speed, especially quicktime or internet. However, it runs flawlessly. A question for the group - Whats the best way to test your graphics cards? Dana, Is the card seated well in the slot? Is it the long card or the short card? The short or older Ti 4600 had problems when they were shipped and from what I remember didnt seat well in the slot. On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 1:36 PM, Baldassare Guzzo of guz...@gmail.com sent I have a QS 2002 running 10.4.11 and the Ti4600. I replaced the Geforce 4 mx because the reviews said it was a much better card. I have not noticed a huge increase in speed, especially quicktime or internet. However, it runs flawlessly. A question for the group - Whats the best way to test your graphics cards? Dana, Is the card seated well in the slot? Is it the long card or the short card? The short or older Ti 4600 had problems when they were shipped and from what I remember didnt seat well in the slot. On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana Hello Baldassare, Thank you for responding. It is the long card. Has a series of numbers that are no help in determining model or part no. (do they ever these days?). Like yours, this card ran well in Tiger, but I am trying to run it in Leopard with no success - I suspect it is incompatible, hence my question. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana, Glad you wrote that because I was thinking of moving to 10.5 myself. Hello Baldassare, Thank you for responding. It is the long card. Has a series of numbers that are no help in determining model or part no. (do they ever these days?). Like yours, this card ran well in Tiger, but I am trying to run it in Leopard with no success - I suspect it is incompatible, hence my question. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote: upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP) In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Reseat the card. Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE). Zap the PRAM. then boot... If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 2:18 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote: upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP) In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Reseat the card. Done Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE). Done Zap the PRAM. Oh, done, done done! then boot... Yep If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard. I was able to get the card to boot once in Leopard (single user mode), but it still had the artifacts mentioned present, and then it would not repeat mounting on a reboot. SO, it appears to be unsupported in Leopard - too bad, a somewhat nice card. Given my general alacrity for Nvidia, I'm not surprised. Thanks for responding, Dan (and Baldassare). Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, DLC wrote: Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). The Mac card is called a GeForce4 Titanium or GF4 Ti for short. If this card says 4600 on it anywhere it's a flashed PC card, and my understanding is that this would also require moving resistors on the card in addition to flashing the ROM to Mac. You might look at these photos to see if your card looks like the real Mac cards?: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html This card should work in Leopard. Since you're not getting QE/CI support, you might do a kextstat command in Terminal and see what video card kexts are loaded. If you don't have any nVidia kexts loaded, then you've got a software issue. You should be able to get this card working unless it's got problems. If it's a flashed PC card, you may need to tweak it to get it working. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 5:19 PM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, DLC wrote: Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). The Mac card is called a GeForce4 Titanium or GF4 Ti for short. If this card says 4600 on it anywhere it's a flashed PC card, and my understanding is that this would also require moving resistors on the card in addition to flashing the ROM to Mac. You might look at these photos to see if your card looks like the real Mac cards?: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/geforce4_ti/geforce4_titanium_Mac.html This card should work in Leopard. Since you're not getting QE/CI support, you might do a kextstat command in Terminal and see what video card kexts are loaded. If you don't have any nVidia kexts loaded, then you've got a software issue. You should be able to get this card working unless it's got problems. If it's a flashed PC card, you may need to tweak it to get it working. Hi Kris, Thank you for the heads-up. I'll check out the photo from xlr8 when I can (their server seems to be down at the moment). My guess is that you're correct - it just may be a flashed card. Though I cannot find 4600 at all, it also doesn't have the EEE listing which I was told at: http://www.welovemacs.com/nv.html the card should have (here is what they say): (quote) EEE Code Note: All Apple Video Card have a special three digit EEE code embedded in the Video Card serial number which positively identifies the part. Please note that this is the serial number of the Video Card, NOT the serial number of the machine. The Video Card serial number is on a tag which has the format xxxEEEx. The EEE code is the three letters immediately preceding the last digit of the serial number. (end quote) Checking the kext load makes sense, though the issue would be getting the card to respond enough to load enough OS to run the terminal. Thanks again, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
Dana I just put 10.5 on another drive in my G4. I'll post my results On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: On 1/20/11 2:18 PM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 10:07 AM -0800 1/20/2011, DLC wrote: upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP) In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Reseat the card. Done Reset the PMU (press the CUDA button ONCE). Done Zap the PRAM. Oh, done, done done! then boot... Yep If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard. I was able to get the card to boot once in Leopard (single user mode), but it still had the artifacts mentioned present, and then it would not repeat mounting on a reboot. SO, it appears to be unsupported in Leopard - too bad, a somewhat nice card. Given my general alacrity for Nvidia, I'm not surprised. Thanks for responding, Dan (and Baldassare). Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I have the same card running under Leopard in a dual 1.42 ghz mirrored door drive without any problems. It was also running in a dual 1 ghz mirrored door drive under Leopard with out any problems. I think your problem is machine specific. Possibly something in the firmware? Russell On 1/20/2011 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
At 4:52 PM -0500 1/20/2011, Dana Collins wrote: If still problems, try booting on Tiger - see if that makes a difference. Oh, yes, yes, yes, as I suspected - works fine in Tiger, a no go in Leopard. Ok. So the hardware is fine. Just an issue of the driver in Leopard. I was under the impression that the Nvidia card was directly support in Leopard. But I'm unable to find a list of what's included in Leopard... @#$% Apple's site keeps giving me Snot Leopard info. :\ Hopefully someone can chime in, as to what driver to install. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
On 1/20/11 6:45 PM, Rock of rockie5...@gmail.com sent I have the same card running under Leopard in a dual 1.42 ghz mirrored door drive without any problems. It was also running in a dual 1 ghz mirrored door drive under Leopard with out any problems. I think your problem is machine specific. Possibly something in the firmware? Russell On 1/20/2011 1:07 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I have a graphics card issue here. I am attempting to help a friend upgrade to leopard via his newly acquired QuickSilver. Earlier, he had purchased an NVidia GeForce Ti4600 128Mb Card (a 2x/4x AGP according to specs) from a member of the SwapList. In his older sawtooth, running Tiger, it ran flawlessly. I was told this was a made- for-Mac card (not a PC-flashed unit). So, I transferred it to his QS running Leopard, and its performance is horrific - it has lost its Quartz Extreme support, sometimes does not make it to the desktop (blue screen only) and in Safe mode has these little artifacts loitering around the mouse cursor all the time. Is this a driver issue, or did this unit just plain incompatible with Leopard? Please alert me ASAP, with my thanks. Dana Possibly; as Dan and Kris suggested, I too lean towards a software issue, as the behavior certainly resembled a faulty driver - would be nice if Apple posted updates to such instead of the one size fits all OS-embedded method. And I will check the firmware of the G4 itself. Anyone know the latest version for a QuickSilver? Thanks to all, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: GeForce Ti Question
I wouldn't count on that EEE number, I have 11 G4 towers and none of the video cards has an EEE anywhere in the serial number. Two of them I bought brand new and I know they still have the original video card. Most likely the rest do too but of course I can't guarantee that. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
