Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-07 Thread glen




   I recently received a 400 MHz G4 to upgrade my BW.  I just want to
 install Tiger.  I seem to remember something about the BW not booting
 with a G4 installed, without a special driver.  My G4 is an Apple brand
 one, if that makes a difference.  This is a new BW to me and I'll be
 installing the OS from scratch. 

You will need the Blue  White G4 Enabler available at:

http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/software.cfm

--glen



  

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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-07 Thread Ralph

Howdy,

On Sun, 2008-09-07 at 14:47 -0700, glen wrote:
I recently received a 400 MHz G4 to upgrade my BW.  I just want to
  install Tiger.  I seem to remember something about the BW not booting
  with a G4 installed, without a special driver.  My G4 is an Apple brand
  one, if that makes a difference.  This is a new BW to me and I'll be
  installing the OS from scratch. 
 
 You will need the Blue  White G4 Enabler available at:
 
 http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/software.cfm
 
 --glen
 

The enabler you refer to seems to be here:
 http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/FTP/newertech/BWG4Enabler.hqx

 So, this helped a little, but I still don't know what to do with it.  I
don't think Tiger installs on a G3.  Do I need to install OS9 first, or
10.2 to install the enabler, and then put the G4 in?
Good day,
Ralph 



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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-07 Thread glen




 I recently received a 400 MHz G4 to upgrade my BW.  I just want to
   install Tiger.  I seem to remember something about the BW not booting
   with a G4 installed, without a special driver.  My G4 is an Apple brand
   one, if that makes a difference.  This is a new BW to me and I'll be
   installing the OS from scratch. 
  
  You will need the Blue  White G4 Enabler available at:
  
  http://eshop.macsales.com/tech_center/software.cfm
  
  --glen
  
 
 The enabler you refer to seems to be here:
 http://eshop.macsales.com/Tech/FTP/newertech/BWG4Enabler.hqx
 
 So, this helped a little, but I still don't know what to do with it.  I
 don't think Tiger installs on a G3.  Do I need to install OS9 first, or
 10.2 to install the enabler, and then put the G4 in?

Both links download the same G4 enabler

IIRC you need to install it while using OS 9.

Also before you install be sure your BW firmware is up to date (also an OS 9 
install):

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=31002

--glen



  

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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-06 Thread Dana Collins



On Sep 6, 11:21 am, Dana Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I know this topic elicited much response/discussion in the past, but
 now I have reasons to pay attention. I seem to recall that there was a
 hack developed that removed the hardware restriction dictated by an
 install of Leopard (on a machine that was less than the required
 G4/867MHz or that had a 3rd party PU upgrade),

 Does this ring a bell with anyone. I had thought I kept the pertinent
 links but of course can't find them when needed.
 Many thanks for the insight.
 Best regards,
 Dana

 P.S. The Leopard discs in question are full retail installs of OS
 10.5.1 (not an upgrade-only DVD)


Hello again,
I did find some info at good ol' LEM, Dan's article here:
http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html
If you know of other info,
please let me know. Thank you much,
Dana
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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-06 Thread Len Gerstel


On Sep 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Dana Collins wrote:




 On Sep 6, 11:21 am, Dana Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings all,
 I know this topic elicited much response/discussion in the past, but
 now I have reasons to pay attention. I seem to recall that there  
 was a
 hack developed that removed the hardware restriction dictated by an
 install of Leopard (on a machine that was less than the required
 G4/867MHz or that had a 3rd party PU upgrade),


 Hello again,
 I did find some info at good ol' LEM, Dan's article here:
 http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html
 If you know of other info,
 please let me know. Thank you much,
 Dana

What other info do you need? That is the full set of instructions  
required to install Leopard, 10.5, on a Mac under 867MHz that meets  
the other requirements (ram, HD space and I assume firewire since  
that was required for 10.4 but I do not know if 10.5 checks for  
firewire)

Len


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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-06 Thread Fabian Fang

On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Dana Collins wrote:

 I did find some info at good ol' LEM, Dan's article here:
 http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html
 If you know of other info,
 please let me know. Thank you much,


Back on December 20, 2007, I posted the following on this List:

For those who still wish to install Leopard on Sub-867 MHz Macs, here  
is an
easier way for accomplishing this:
http://www.mac.profusehost.net/leopardassist/

LeopardAssist is a free download.

Fabian

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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-06 Thread Len Gerstel


On Sep 6, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Dana Collins wrote:


 To clarify, this was the first experiment/attempt at booting Leopard
 and what I anticipated was an unsupported machine. Hence, i may have
 more success on my other upgraded G4s. This unit in question is a G4
 Yikes (PCI Graphics)

Bingo! I forgot the AGP (or better) requirement.

 being run by a Sonnet Encore ZIF G4/1GHz CPU w/
 1Gig RAM. When I boot off of the Install DVD, I get nothing but a dark
 screen, which, if left alone, will eventually be ignored and the unit
 will boot into its normal OS Tiger operating system. I suspect that,
 for reasons other than the CPU concern, this machine may not be
 supported (for this reason, your comment  If you have a processor
 card upgrade, greater than 800MHz, the hack
 is not required I found most interesting.
 My other machines are a Sawtooth with a G4/1GHz upgrade, and a DA with
 a G4 1.5GHz upgrade - I suspect these machines will be more successful
 and compatible with Leopard anyway.
 Thank you much,

I have run Leopard on my DA with both a 933MHz QS processor and an  
OWC dual 1.2GHz processor. It ran fine with the 933, but I am a big  
fan of dual processors. The upgraded video (a hacked 128MB Radeon  
9600 from a G5) card I am sure helped with all the eye candy.

Len


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Re: Hack for Leopard install?

2008-09-06 Thread Dana Collins



On Sep 6, 12:40 pm, Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sep 6, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Dana Collins wrote:



  To clarify, this was the first experiment/attempt at booting Leopard
  and what I anticipated was an unsupported machine. Hence, i may have
  more success on my other upgraded G4s. This unit in question is a G4
  Yikes (PCI Graphics)

 Bingo! I forgot the AGP (or better) requirement.
(snip)


 I have run Leopard on my DA with both a 933MHz QS processor and an  
 OWC dual 1.2GHz processor. It ran fine with the 933, but I am a big  
 fan of dual processors. The upgraded video (a hacked 128MB Radeon  
 9600 from a G5) card I am sure helped with all the eye candy.

 Len

Hi Len,
Well, there we go! Looks like the Yikes can stay right where it's at,
and I'll tackle the other two.
Thank you for the responses, Len. If any one knows DA's, it's you!
Best regards,
Dana
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