Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
That's a good idea, however it the receiving platform doesn't have a open disk that the disk image can be installed on then it's a wast of time. Or unless the receiving platform's disk can be split into two disk it would work. The Disk Image can not be installed onto the active disk. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca. On Aug 10, 12:40 pm, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 10-08-2011 14:20, Geke ha scritto: You could always consider creating a disk image of the boot volume on one computer and sending that to the other one over the network. Yep, that's a very good idea I didn't think of! :-/ It will become useful sooner or later, thank you! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
Il giorno 11-08-2011 18:00, gifutiger ha scritto: That's a good idea, however it the receiving platform doesn't have a open disk that the disk image can be installed on then it's a wast of time. I love partitions, and I always have AT LEAST four partitions on every HD I have installed. :-) On one partition, I already had OSX installed to manage the cloning. So, the disk image would have worked fine. The Disk Image can not be installed onto the active disk. Yep, but my goal wasn't installing OSX (I already did that), it was CLONING my OSX disk (with all the apps and data it contains). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
You could always consider creating a disk image of the boot volume on one computer and sending that to the other one over the network. Depending on your purpose with the backup, that may fulfil your needs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
Il giorno 10-08-2011 14:20, Geke ha scritto: You could always consider creating a disk image of the boot volume on one computer and sending that to the other one over the network. Yep, that's a very good idea I didn't think of! :-/ It will become useful sooner or later, thank you! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
Il giorno 8-08-2011 19:07, John Martz ha scritto: Why couldn't you use Firewire target mode? Because I'm not at home, and the FW cable I have here didn't work. Since it wasn't easy getting a new one, I thought that connecting the two Macs over Ethernet would work. And, in a way, it did work (and was almost as fast as FW) for the data stuff, but it didn't for OSX. Not completely, at least. Il giorno 8-08-2011 17:06, Dan ha scritto: You cannot make a complete clone via file sharing. Oh, I didn't know that. After all, a cable is a cable, so why CCC shouldn't do its job thru Ethernet like it does thru FW? Actually, I think it does: the manual states that version 3.4: Back up to and from network volumes (e.g. AFP, SMB, via File Sharing) Maybe my problem was that I executed the clone (CCC) from the Mac *receiving* the data, instead that from the Mac where the cloned OSX resides (so I hadn't all the privileges I needed to copy all the files). Anyway, today I got a new FW cable, it worked and now my new G5 is fine and dandy! :-D Thanks to everybody for their advice. :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: After all, a cable is a cable, so why CCC shouldn't do its job thru Ethernet like it does thru FW? Actually, I think it does: the manual states that version 3.4: Back up to and from network volumes (e.g. AFP, SMB, via File Sharing) Because while you can back up things across ethernet, you cannot clone over a running OS on the target system. Firewire target mode works via the hardware; OSX is not running on the target computer. This is the same reason you cannot repair the boot volume of the computer with disk utility unless you boot from another volume. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
Il giorno 10-08-2011 5:49, Bruce Johnson ha scritto: Because while you can back up things across ethernet, you cannot clone over a running OS on the target system. Honestly, I cannot see why I couldn't clone OSX over a running computer, onto an empty disk/partition (obviously, not over the boot disk): the copied files wouldn't interfere in any way with the running OS. (a file is just a sequence of data: wether it's system or not, until it's activated it doesn't make any difference) Anyway, my opinion is irrelevant (not to mention wrong! :-D ) since CCC's author Mike Bombich answered me this way: You can back up user files to a network volume, but the OS won't work if you clone system files to that volume, there's too much stuff that doesn't get preserved by the network filesystem. So be it. Firewire or bust. ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
At 4:38 AM +0200 8/8/2011, Valter Prahlad wrote: I used Carbon Copy Cloner to clone an OSX 10.4.11 partition (with all data and apps) from a PowerMac G4 DA 667 to a PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7, and the G5 doesn't boot from it. [snip] I made the clone thru Ethernet file sharing, since I couldn't use Firewire target mode. You cannot make a complete clone via file sharing. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: I made the clone thru Ethernet file sharing, since I couldn't use Firewire target mode. Why couldn't you use Firewire target mode? I'm not saying this would fix things since I don't know that. It just seems like a potentially big thing to leave unexplained in your post. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
On Aug 7, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: I made the clone thru Ethernet file sharing, since I couldn't use Firewire target mode. That was the problem...you cannot just copy over a running OS, which you need to have file sharing on. FW target mode is possible with the G5; all you need is a FW400-FW800 cable http://tinyurl.com/3qvhnh -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot
I used Carbon Copy Cloner to clone an OSX 10.4.11 partition (with all data and apps) from a PowerMac G4 DA 667 to a PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7, and the G5 doesn't boot from it. (please note that the same G5 boots fine from a fresh 10.4 install on another partition) Since that G5 came originally with OSX 10.4, I thought it could boot from my 10.4.11. Is it possible for a G5 using an OSX previously installed on a G4? I can choose that partition in Startup Disk, boot from it, the screen with the grey Apple appears, but it remains stuck there. Even if I try to boot in Single-user mode (Cmd-S at startup), it shows several lines of text, but it locks before reaching the prompt. (I thought of running Applejack, but I couldn't reach the prompt) I repaired that partition, repaired the permissions and the preferences (with Disk Utility, Drive Genius, DiskWarrior, Cocktail), to no avail. Is there something I have to change/tune to make it bootable? Or is it just a G4 OSX doesn't work on a G5? I made the clone thru Ethernet file sharing, since I couldn't use Firewire target mode. At the end, CCC reported Errors encountered (all of them about Getting information...), I don't know if this could be the problem. Example follows: Error codes: 58 : 86 : 13 Error: rsync: send_files: failed to open /Volumes/HDX/usr/sbin/vpnd: Permission denied (13) I think several files weren't copied because of this. Could that be the problem? How could I say to OSX Make all the files on this disk copy-able? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
