Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
To Bruce and others - Well, I transferred over all the hard drives, including the boot-up drive, and except for some temporary issues that seem related to a PCI firewire card I tried to install at the same time, all seems to have gone well. Thanks for the advice and encouragement! Mira --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On 9/24/09 10:42 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I know someone who DID add memory to a running G4 tower. Amazingly it all lived. It crashed immediately, but on a restart it all worked. The beauty of macs! I wonder what would happen on a PC? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Charles Lenington wrote: Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. My daughter's boyfriend tried to create a whole new category (or at least add himself to a list for one). As he was opening up his new MBP to add memory to it I noticed the sleep light was pulsing so I advised him he might want to shut the computer down first. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Charles Lenington wrote: Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. My daughter's boyfriend tried to create a whole new category (or at least add himself to a list for one). As he was opening up his new MBP to add memory to it I noticed the sleep light was pulsing so I advised him he might want to shut the computer down first. I know someone who DID add memory to a running G4 tower. Amazingly it all lived. It crashed immediately, but on a restart it all worked. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: Charles Lenington wrote: Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. My daughter's boyfriend tried to create a whole new category (or at least add himself to a list for one). As he was opening up his new MBP to add memory to it I noticed the sleep light was pulsing so I advised him he might want to shut the computer down first. I know someone who DID add memory to a running G4 tower. Amazingly it all lived. It crashed immediately, but on a restart it all worked. Yeah you CAN do it but it's the computer equivalent of Russian Roulette. I think I did it once myself. I'm pretty sure it didn't break anything. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. Can I just move the hard drives from the 867 to the 1.25, and boot up the 1.25, or is there some intermediate step I'm unaware of? (The 867 is working, but the power supply is going, and it was cheaper to buy this used 1.25) I plan to keep the 867 for parts. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result === That is a different question. All 'my' Apps worked in all the G4s but that does not mean all the original questioner's Apps will work. There might be Apps that will work on one G4 but not another according to the configurations and Specs of the two different machines. As for transferring just the Apps, I have not tried that. I prefer to use CCC to make complete backups. --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 6:06 AM On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Both are MDD dual G4 from this line: CPU CPU: PowerPC 7455 G4 CPU Speed: 2x867 MHz/2x1.0 GHz/2x1.25 GHz FPU: integrated Bus Speed: 166 MHz Data Path Width: 64 bit Address Width: 32 bit ROM: 1 MB ROM + 3 MB toolbox ROM loaded into RAM RAM Type: PC2700 DDR Minimum RAM Speed: 333 MHz Onboard RAM: 0 MB RAM slots: 4 Maximum RAM: 2.0 GB Level 1 Cache: 32 kB data, 32 kB instruction Level 2 Cache: 256 kB on-chip, 1:1 Level 3 Cache: 1 MB DDR SDRAM per-processor, 1:4 (2 MB for 2x 1.25 GHz) Expansion Slots: 4 64-bit 33 MHz PCI, 1 4x AGP (filled) Video Video Card/Chipset: ATI Radeon 9000 Pro VRAM: 64 MB Max Resolution: all resolutions supported Video Out: VGA/DVI, ADC Storage Hard Drive: 60/80/120 GB ATA Bus: Ultra ATA-100 Optical Drive: 24x/8x/4x/6x/2x/1x CD-RW/DVD-R Input/Output USB: 2 Firewire: 2 Audio Out: 2x stereo 16 bit mini, Pro Speaker Audio In: stereo 16 bit mini Speaker: mono Networking Modem: 56 kbps Ethernet: 10/100/1000Base-T Airport: optional card Miscellaneous Family: PowerMac G3/G4/G5 Codename: P57 Gestalt ID: 406 Power: 338 Watts Dimensions: 17 H x 8.9 W x 18.4 D Weight: 42 lbs. Minimum OS: 9.2.2 Maximum OS: 10.5.6 Introduced: August 2002 Terminated: Late 2004 What I would like to do is move all my drives, including the boot-up drive, from the 867 to the 1.25. The 867 is currently running Leopard. The 1.25 has a 160G boot-up drive currently running Tiger. I would remove the 160G drive from the 1.25 and replace it with my 500G boot-up drive from my 867. Is this possible? Would I create some issues if I try? Mira On Sep 23, 7:38 am, Mel mll...@yahoo.com wrote: If the OS is comparable for both CPUs, it seems that you can make the mechanical transfer of the HD and boot without incident. I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s but none newer than a DA. E.G. Swapping a boot HD from a DP DA to a Sawtooth and vice versa. Anyone have a different experience? Mel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:42 AM, mkehoe wrote: I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. Yep, no issues at all. The drive in my current laptop has been in two machines, my pismo then my TiBook, in my desktop in three. 7600- Beige G3 - Gig Ethernet. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? In my case all apps worked...a HD is a 'total brian transplant' and OS X is truly universal install, all drivers for all supported systems are included, although this has changed with the advent of Snow Leopard. Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? Yes and no. Serial numbers, etc etc will have to be re-entered, since that info tends to live in preference files or Application support folders in ~Library and /Library. iTunes, (and possibly other applications) uses the MAC address of the built-in ethernet for authentication of a computer, you'll have to re- register your computer with iTunes to play protected media. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? iTunes, (and possibly other applications) uses the MAC address of the built-in ethernet for authentication of a computer, you'll have to re- register your computer with iTunes to play protected media. Make SURE you De-Authorize the old computer before removing the HD. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? iTunes, (and possibly other applications) uses the MAC address of the built-in ethernet for authentication of a computer, you'll have to re- register your computer with iTunes to play protected media. Make SURE you De-Authorize the old computer before removing the HD. Only if you're at your 5 computer limit, or you're selling the old one. You can do what I did, and deauthorize all computers, then re- authorize 'em. IIRC Apple limits you to one mass deauthorization per 6 calendar months. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: Bruce others - I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the process of authorization. This has nothing to do with just moving the HDs - the OS and apps will just work. Authorization is an iTunes issue ONLY. Its point being that it limits how many computers can be used to play the stuff you've bought from the iTunes Store. And it recognizes those computers with enough intelligence that the authorization won't magically move when you move the HD. So you need to de-authorize that computer first, then move the HD, then authorize the new. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Correct? Mira On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: Bruce others - I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the process of authorization. This has nothing to do with just moving the HDs - the OS and apps will just work. Authorization is an iTunes issue ONLY. Its point being that it limits how many computers can be used to play the stuff you've bought from the iTunes Store. And it recognizes those computers with enough intelligence that the authorization won't magically move when you move the HD. So you need to de-authorize that computer first, then move the HD, then authorize the new. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
I moved a boot drive with 10.4 server on it from a single 533MHZ digital audio to a dual 1GHZ xserve, and then a dual 1.33GHZ xserve and it booted right up. -Jonas On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:37 PM, mkehoe mirake...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Correct? Mira On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: Bruce others - I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the process of authorization. This has nothing to do with just moving the HDs - the OS and apps will just work. Authorization is an iTunes issue ONLY. Its point being that it limits how many computers can be used to play the stuff you've bought from the iTunes Store. And it recognizes those computers with enough intelligence that the authorization won't magically move when you move the HD. So you need to de-authorize that computer first, then move the HD, then authorize the new. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Yep. Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Here is a suggestion that I believe will be better for you. Have you considered buying a used second HD. If you do, install it as a slave in your current CPU. Use CCC to clone it. Restart and reboot holding down the option key. When the arrow appears, click on the slave drive and continue the boot process. It should boot your CPU. When it does, shut it down and RR which ever HD you choose to the other CPU, remembering, if you choose the slave drive to RR to convert it into a master. Then boot from that other HD. It should work. Mel --- On Wed, 9/23/09, mkehoe mirake...@gmail.com wrote: From: mkehoe mirake...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:37 PM Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Correct? Mira On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: Bruce others - I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the process of authorization. This has nothing to do with just moving the HDs - the OS and apps will just work. Authorization is an iTunes issue ONLY. Its point being that it limits how many computers can be used to play the stuff you've bought from the iTunes Store. And it recognizes those computers with enough intelligence that the authorization won't magically move when you move the HD. So you need to de-authorize that computer first, then move the HD, then authorize the new. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Mel wrote: Here is a suggestion that I believe will be better for you. Have you considered buying a used second HD. If you do, install it as a slave in your current CPU. Use CCC to clone it. Restart and reboot holding down the option key. When the arrow appears, click on the slave drive and continue the boot process. It should boot your CPU. When it does, shut it down and RR which ever HD you choose to the other CPU, remembering, if you choose the slave drive to RR to convert it into a master. Then boot from that other HD. It should work. Whaa? What you've described is just rebooting to a different drive in the same system. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: Thanks Bruce Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Yep. Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. You notice they never drop on foam padding or even carpet, only on concrete. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. You notice they never drop on foam padding or even carpet, only on concrete. What got me is that it landed perfectly *on edge*, from desk height, and stayed there. All it ever did was make a sort of SKKKSSSHHHSKKKSHHH grinding noise after that... did that, 15 years ago...old 20MB drive right off my desk, hit hard enough to leave a dent in the metal. it was in the middle of writing data when it happened. got an error on that file but the drive still worked. Last I checked the drive still works, that was a few years ago, gathering dust in my attic now. -sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. You notice they never drop on foam padding or even carpet, only on concrete. What got me is that it landed perfectly *on edge*, from desk height, and stayed there. All it ever did was make a sort of SKKKSSSHHHSKKKSHHH grinding noise after that... I don't know how mine landed, cursing makes it hard to make observations. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Yes indeed that is what I suggested. Test it first in the G4 after cloning to see if it boots. If it does, then make the RR. --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 2:34 PM On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Mel wrote: Here is a suggestion that I believe will be better for you. Have you considered buying a used second HD. If you do, install it as a slave in your current CPU. Use CCC to clone it. Restart and reboot holding down the option key. When the arrow appears, click on the slave drive and continue the boot process. It should boot your CPU. When it does, shut it down and RR which ever HD you choose to the other CPU, remembering, if you choose the slave drive to RR to convert it into a master. Then boot from that other HD. It should work. Whaa? What you've described is just rebooting to a different drive in the same system. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
Clark Martin wrote: I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. You notice they never drop on foam padding or even carpet, only on concrete. Now of course there is the on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We had a bunch of under 1 gig hospital content drives to erase/destroy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
