Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: PPC, G3, G4, G5, Someone may have answered this, but which version, of the 7450 or 7400, should I get from RPM for a Titanium G4. I relent, I'd try this build and see if my horrible internet video playback is improved on this 400 Mhzm 1GB machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just simply use the advance install option and uncheck languages they don't need and printers they don't have? That seems simple to me. Dan, there was Monolingial and another app mentioned in this threadis that other one...name escapes...damage files as well? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 6:56 AM -0600 6/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote: which version, of the 7450 or 7400, should I get from RPM http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/whichbuildforme/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
Title: Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4 At 7:00 AM -0600 6/17/2009, Nestamicky wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just simply use the advance install option and uncheck languages they don't need and printers they don't have? They could. Or perhaps they change their mind later. Then there are the apps that ship with umpteen (language) localizations in them. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 17, 2009, at 6:00 AM, Nestamicky wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Dan wrote: Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. This is a very very very important thing to know about Monolingual. If you're installing your OS with the disk, why can't people just simply use the advance install option and uncheck languages they don't need and printers they don't have? That seems simple to me. So long as you know which button to click and when. Dan, there was Monolingial and another app mentioned in this threadis that other one...name escapes...damage files as well? The other one was 'Delocalizer' and it does not do anything about alternate architectures. Truthfully, stripping fat binaries never gains you a whole lot of free space, because the vast bulk of most applications lies in the resources and help files. For example: TextEdit is 22.1 MB in size. The actual textEdit compiled binary part, which includes both PPC and X86 code? 264K. Monolingual will strip the extra language resources out of the app, too, I think, which will result in a lot of savings. Manually stripping the extra language resources from TextEdit cut it down to 1.9 mb. No need to screw up the binaries as well. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 17, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Manually stripping the extra language resources from TextEdit cut it down to 1.9 mb. A long time ago (meaning I don't know if this is currently true, I hope not?) I manually striped the language resources from Webkit and it destroyed the ability to search within Safari, and some versions wouldn't even launch after removal of some languages. I filed a bug report on this phenomenon, and very quickly I got a super-rude reply from a Webkit developer saying who did I think I was to 'lobotomize' their code and why should ANY software that's been manually 'butchered' by a user be expected to function normally? I was taken aback, and replied that I didn't think that hiding active code within the language files was a good idea, and that AFAIK no other applications did such a thing. It seemed as if this developer was acknowledging that the bug that I reported was in actuality purposeful and they were not only aware of it, but were dismissing my bug report because Webkit was designed to not work if certain languages were removed. I thought this was crazy, and still do. I hope things have changed since then? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 2:53 PM -0500 6/17/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: A long time ago (meaning I don't know if this is currently true, I hope not?) I manually striped the language resources from Webkit and it destroyed the ability to search within Safari, and some versions wouldn't even launch after removal of some languages. I filed a bug report on this phenomenon, and very quickly I got a super-rude reply from a Webkit developer saying who did I think I was to 'lobotomize' their code and why should ANY software that's been manually 'butchered' by a user be expected to function normally? While I cannot comment on what code was or was not included with the localizations,,, I agree with the sentiment. Developers work hard to produce *working* products. Having a user lobotomize them intentionally is just bad juju. Then there's the horrible support problem... As to the need for localization code... I can think of quite a few reasons for it. Depends on the languages involved - quite a few are not simple word-for-word substitutions to engrish. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
RPM has posted her builds of the latest Firefox 3.0.11. Note that the Moz developers have finally updated the app names, so they build correctly. Only official builds are allowed to use the Firefox name. All others, like these 3rd party optimized builds, are required to use the code names. It's a marketing thing... Firefox 1.5Deer Park Firefox 2.xBon Echo Firefox 3.xGran Paradiso and of course, Minefield is the bleeding edge main trunk. Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? (Firefox 3.0.11.) Larry Eden --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? They lack the code for any processor type other than the CPU for which they are optimised (British spelling of RPMs page). They may be a tad faster, but I tried many of the Optimized versions on Furbism's page (http://firefoxmac.furbism.com/), and some didn't function completely; whereas the normal, multi-CPU versions always worked, so I'm a little skeptical of these homemade optimized versions. If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 5:21 AM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: How are the above mentioned builds different from the version that Firefox automatically updated my BW to? The generic builds, provided by the Mozilla team, are compiled for use on all powerpc processors. Except for a few instances, they use only the instructions available in common with all those processors. The optimized builds contain code and instructions optimized *specifically* for that one processor. They are always faster than the generic builds. On slower Macs, they are noticeably MUCH faster. tried many of the Optimized versions on Furbism's page, and some didn't function completely Furby's builds are bleeding edge nightly, alpha, and beta test, so they're often buggy. If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove code. It strips out alternate language resources (translations). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote: If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove code. It strips out alternate language resources (translations). Yes it does, from the readme: Q. Should I remove the non-Intel architectures on my Intel based Mac? A. You can use Monolingual to remove non-Intel architectures for your installed applications (even if some of the applications are PowerPC- only; Monolingual is smart enough not to remove PPC forks if those are the only ones in the universal binary). However, you should not strip the System frameworks if you want to use Rosetta. Rosetta needs the PowerPC code for all frameworks used by the emulated application and if it can't find it, you may see messages such as the following in the console: /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa: mach-o, but wrong architecture -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 10:47 AM -0700 6/16/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Dan wrote: If you're really short on HD space they may save a few MB, but running Monolingual can extract the non-CPU specific code also, so there are two ways to skin this cat. Monolingual does NOT remove code. It strips out alternate language resources (translations). Yes it does, from the readme: Q. Should I remove the non-Intel architectures on my Intel based Mac? Ok. Semantics. Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). It's all or nothing, to strip Universal builds. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Dan wrote: Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). Monolingual DOES remove PPC model-specific code. There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. I just removed EVERYTHING except G3 from my 500MHz iceBook. It saved another half GB, and seems to be working so far. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
Am I able to download the opitmized build if I have a 867 dual G4 PowerPC? I don't know what the 7400 or 7450 is referring to. On Jun 15, 2:04 pm, joan jn...@q.com wrote: a link or just what is RPMs page? On Jun 15, 1:32 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 3:56 PM, joan wrote: Am I able to download the opitmized build if I have a 867 dual G4 PowerPC? I don't know what the 7400 or 7450 is referring to. It's two different types of G4 CPU. The early G4 were 7400, later were 7450. Your 867 dual is 7450. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 2:40 PM -0500 6/16/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 16, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Dan wrote: Monolingual does NOT remove powerpc model-specific code (the subject of this thread). Monolingual DOES remove PPC model-specific code. There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. Ok. I sit corrected. :) Last time I looked at Monolingual, it just stripped language resources. Lookin at it now... heh. +/- breaking signed and checksum'd apps (yes, I see the exception list), I can see where this would be good for saving some disk space. But it has nothing to do with compilation optimizations. This is the equivalent of throwing out the spare tire and the rest of the stuff in your trunk, just to save .1 mpg -- the original engine tuning is not touched. Compilation optimizing is the equivalent of installing a higher-performance carburetor and fine tuning it, etc, in order to jack up the gas mileage significantly. Note that once you've hit the system and apps with this tool, they are forever damaged. Diff type updaters (albeit rare) will see their targets as damaged. A clone of your system can never be used on system with a different processor (big down-side, IMO). And, as time goes on, when you apply updates, you'll have to keep using Monolingual so as to keep that .1 mpg. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 16, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Dan wrote: There is a check box for each CPU: PPC, G3, G4, G4 and Intel. Ok. I sit corrected. :) You could have, and have, correct me many times :) I meant: PPC, G3, G4, G5, and Intel, not two G4's. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
RPM has posted her builds of the latest Firefox 3.0.11. Note that the Moz developers have finally updated the app names, so they build correctly. Only official builds are allowed to use the Firefox name. All others, like these 3rd party optimized builds, are required to use the code names. It's a marketing thing... Firefox 1.5Deer Park Firefox 2.x Bon Echo Firefox 3.x Gran Paradiso and of course, Minefield is the bleeding edge main trunk. Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Enjoy! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
Dan wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
a link or just what is RPMs page? On Jun 15, 1:32 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Do you have a link, Dan? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:32 PM, nestamicky wrote: Do you have a link, Dan? Here's a link, but honestly, you should learn to use Google. I'd never heard of this before, and it took me 10 seconds to find the link. So you'll know, I searched the terms: rpm optimized seamonkey. It wasn't the 1st hit on Google, it was the 10th hit, and that was because the british spell optimized as optimised, so the difference between a z and an s caused a slight glitch. The general rule on searching is to try specific search terms, in this case, seamonkey is the most specific, and to delineate from other versions, the term optimized was used. rpm is a requirement, but it also VERY common and vague, so it's only there because it's likely an absolute requirement. It doesn't take long to learn how to search effectively for yourself. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 3:08 PM -0500 6/15/2009, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jun 15, 2009, at 2:32 PM, nestamicky wrote: Do you have a link, Dan? d'oh. I can't believe I left it out. :( Sorry 'bout that. http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/ Thx Kris. Addendum: The file service that RPM is using has set their server's file type handling badly... so when you download the archives, they'll be .dmg.html. Just rename them to be just .dmg, then they'll open properly. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Where's the URL? -- MaGioZal. http://flickr.com/photos/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
At 11:15 PM -0300 6/15/2009, MaGioZal wrote: On 6/15/09 12:33 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Optimized builds of Camino, SeaMonkey, and Thunderbird are also available on RPM's page. Where's the URL? See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Mozilla apps - Optimized for G3/G4
On 6/15/09 11:27 PM, Dan at dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Where's the URL? See Kris' reply, posted 5 hours ago. Sorry, I read abou it after posting the reply... -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
