Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox. Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there. Please send me a single sample, including the full headers. I'll take a look. For some reason, Mail (or the Server) refuses to Forward a copy to you. I also tried cutting and pasting the headers and body, but it refused to send it that way, too. I'm working from the Junk folder ... maybe I should move it to a non- Junk box, and try to Forward it there ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
At 2:05 PM -0400 6/19/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox. Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there. Please send me a single sample, including the full headers. I'll take a look. For some reason, Mail (or the Server) refuses to Forward a copy to you. I also tried cutting and pasting the headers and body, but it refused to send it that way, too. I'm working from the Junk folder ... maybe I should move it to a non-Junk box, and try to Forward it there ... yea. Doncha just love apps that won't do what you tell them to do because they think they know better? Or copy the whole thing to a text file, zip it, and send that. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On 2011/06/19 06:37, Dan so eloquently wrote: At 11:34 PM -0600 6/18/2011, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/06/18 07:15, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ... Huh? I get zero spam from LEM lists, and I'm subscribed to at least five of them. Perhaps AOL is catching it. Obviously this is a GMAIL account not an AOL account, please pardon my blonde moment. Well, zero is relative. There was that recent fusenet glitch. Nothing to do with LEM per se, but still... Occasionally I get spam on one of the other list servers that I subscribe to, but even that is so little that it is insignificant. fwiw... In addition to my Gmail account, I have two verizon.net email addresses (such as the OP's) - the primary contact accounts for our FiOS service. Verizon's filters are rather poor. Sometimes they flag their own notices as spam. And I get perhaps 10 to 20 spams a week on each, that their filters totally miss. The comparison is, of course, my Gmail account. Their filters are pretty good; perhaps one a week gets thru, if that. I'm not a big Verizon fan, but then I dont have FiOS either. I might be willing to put up with them for that kind of speed. I have two Gmail and two AOL accounts and I see very little spam, nothing like I did say five years ago. Not complaining a bit either. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:51:25 -0600, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a big Verizon fan, but then I dont have FiOS either. I might be willing to put up with them for that kind of speed. I have two Gmail and two AOL accounts and I see very little spam, nothing like I did say five years ago. Not complaining a bit either. GMail has the second best filter on the planet, only behind Google Apps + Postini in my book. A very close third are IronPort appliances. I had stopped using this account because of the amount of spam it got, spamassassin did nothing to help. Friday I went to the colo and put in a surplus IronPort and new personal mail server, and like magic I have no spam. 2,700 blocked spam messages to the one account enabled so far in 24 hours. Uffdah. Anyway, /end geek overload. FWIW I haven't seen any spam to this list in my filter. -- Ben b...@mac-geek.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
Bill forwarded the email to me. My response: This received header is the key: Received: from c9rxllkk ([unknown] [220.95.137.166]) by vms169129.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTP id 0ln100itki5fq...@vms169129.mailsrvcs.net for billycarm...@verizon.net; Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:46:41 -0500 (CDT) 220.95.137.166 is in Korea. The spammer is using a zombied peecee there to relay it. Other than the fact that it was addressed to billycarm...@verizon.net, there is no evidence this has anything to do with any LEM list. The above Received header is likely legit because mailsrvcs.net is a service domain owned by Verizon and that is the server that created that header. Notice that you, the recipient, are *different* from the To address. That's fine - except for that final Received header, *ALL* other mail headers are forgeable and optional. The actual address(es) to which an email is sent are given to the smtp server separately, as part of its protocol. (I've omitted that To: field in this list reply because that address might be legit, some poor guy that's being abused by a spammer. No need to spread his addr farther). (and the body of the email is just a standard drug push with a url in the Russian tld. Kindof boring, actually, not even a spoofed domain). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
At 9:15 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? From? A legit g3-5-list email has a TO field that says - and note the lower case: To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com and it has a FROM field that's the email address of the sender, eg: From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net You're welcome to unsubscribe, of course. That would be like shunning your friends because some unknown idiot from across town is making crank phone calls to your home. But hey, whatever floats your boat. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On Jun 18, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:15 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? From? A legit g3-5-list email has a TO field that says - and note the lower case: To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com and it has a FROM field that's the email address of the sender, eg: From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net You're welcome to unsubscribe, of course. That would be like shunning your friends because some unknown idiot from across town is making crank phone calls to your home. But hey, whatever floats your boat. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- My apologies ... I was being somewhat inflammatory, letting my ocd get the best of me I'm not dropping the group. But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox. Just sick of seeing them. Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
I'm not getting any of these spams you are talking about. Perhaps you need a better email host? We (my group) is Mac friendly and there's super strong mail filtering. Let me know if you want an account. Brielle On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox. Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there. Please send me a single sample, including the full headers. I'll take a look. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox. Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there. Please send me a single sample, including the full headers. I'll take a look. I'll wait for the next one to arrive, as all the ones I got so far, I Forwarded to spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net, and when I'm in a bad mood, Bounce'd them too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
At 11:16 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jun 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:49 AM -0400 6/18/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: But I keep getting these things, and its been happening for a long time ... they end up in my g3-g5 mailbox. Perhaps someone's just using my e-mail address I have for the g3-g5 list to SPAM me. Maybe I should just change that? wondering how they got that in the first place ... I thought we were protected there. Please send me a single sample, including the full headers. I'll take a look. I'll wait for the next one to arrive, Ok. as all the ones I got so far, I Forwarded to spamdetector.notcau...@verizon.net eh. Better to just train the spam filters in your local email client. Companies like Verizon have such poor email service, that their filters are all but useless anyway. , and when I'm in a bad mood, Bounce'd them too. oops. Think about that. Two types of spam: 1) Spam relayed thru a zombie, using someone else's from address. 2) Spam used to probe to see if there's a live user out there. Type 1... By bouncing, all you're doing is screwing over some innocent person whoze address was put in the From field by a spammer. Just what that poor guy needs -- more spam. Type 2... You're telling the spammer that you EXIST! YAH! That just popped you from from his giant unverified address list to the Next Level, the one that brings in more $ when the spammer sells the list to other spammers! IOW, you are HELPING the spammer earn *cough* his living AND you are EXPLICITLY ENCOURAGING other spammers to spam you! The same thing happens when you simply view a spam, with html enabled or images enabled. Those 1x1 pixel graphic files that you don't see... That's reaching out and touching the spammer's web site to tell him YOU EXIST. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On 18/6/11 10:49 AM, Brielle wrote: I'm not getting any of these spams you are talking about. Perhaps you need a better email host? We (my group) is Mac friendly and there's super strong mail filtering. Let me know if you want an account. Brielle I second that suggestion - my ISP sysadmin has a good spam filter set up and I get almost no spam. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? Nothing like that is coming into gmail. with or without fake Glist addies. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
I personally handle lists using the ListID: header that is almost universal now. These are typical: To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM? Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com List-ID: g3-5-list.googlegroups.com My list address is filtered using a white list of subscribed ListID: headers. Not there, the message is spam. There are a few exceptions and I do look for a subject that is an exact duplicate of something I have recently sent. That helps for folks who still think replies to lists ought to be sent To: the poster with a copy to the list. (That was a good idea when lists could take more than a day to respond over a telephone or usenet connection.) If you speak perl have a look at: ftp://ftp.macnauchtan.com/Pair/qfilter_list.pl The list server is usually pretty good at filtering out spam sent to the list for re-distribution. They have the advantage of an allowed list of posters who can be cut off for bad messages. But it can still happen that a subscriber's computer can get infected and distribute messages over a list, Such things are usually detected and stopped quickly. -- -- The U. S. Census Bureau missed a bet by not counting all of those embryos in cold storage. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On 18 Jun 2011, at 18:46, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? Nothing like that is coming into gmail. with or without fake Glist addies. Nothing like that received by me (in the UK), either. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
I occasionally get those messages as well, but not enough to even annoy me. I just ignore them. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
On 2011/06/18 07:15, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote: Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales e-mails from coming from the G3-G5 LEM List? I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ... Huh? I get zero spam from LEM lists, and I'm subscribed to at least five of them. Perhaps AOL is catching it. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
