Re: Question about hard drives
On 8/29/11 11:52 AM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: Below the optical drive there's room (and, I think, cables) for a second unit; in my G4, they are used for the Zip drive, so I couldn't add an HD there. The Zip drive bays may, in general, be used to house hard drives. In some cases, particularly with pre-QSes, it may be necessary to apply insulating tape to the interior of the bay. For this purpose I generally use Scotch (3M) filament strapping (packing) tape. Also, on QSes, it may be necessary to drill the bay for HD mounting screws. Remember: 1) the Zip bay was designed with Zip drives in mind, NOT HDs, and 2) although the external size of an HD is the same as a Zip, the two do not have the same mounting hardware nor the same hardware spacing (M3-0.5 for Zips, #6-32 UNC for HDs). I've put a hard drive in the zip bay on my G4... but you can only use two screws at a time. I didn't have it installed there for very long... I was moving some files from some smaller drives that was to be removed over to the new 3TB drive and I wasn't sure if it'd get enough air flow there since I don't think the zip drive gets as hot as it can -Matt -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about hard drives
Il giorno 29-08-2011 5:26, cheryl ha scritto: I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? AFAIK, any G4 uses the same IDE/PATA interface as the G3, so it can use any G3's HD. I have a G4 Digital Audio, and it took my Beige G3's HD flawlessly. The G4 QS has room for two drives internally (I think you could add a third one, but maybe not as easily). Just take care of the master/slave setup. When having more than one drive (or moving a drive from another computer), be sure one drive is master (better the boot drive) and the other is slave. Regarding hooking the two computers, I'm not sure what you mean. One way to access a different computer's drive, however, is using Firewire Target mode: - Boot the main Mac - Connect the two Macs using a Firewire cable - Boot the second Mac while holding down the T key (the screen should show a Firewire moving logo) - The second Mac's HD(s) should appear on the main Mac's desktop; remember to unmount (move to the Trash) it before disconnecting or switching off the Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about hard drives
On 8/28/11 9:35 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. A QS 2002 supports large drives natively. I would install a 500 GB or 750 GB drive on top of the existing drive. 750s might be tough to find, however. I just thought I'd add this on adding space to the G4 since others have already answered the question regarding the existing IDE controllers: Personally I bought a Sonnet Tempo SATA controller and a Hitatchi 3TB(2.7TB according to Leopard and earlier) hard drive for my Gigabit G4. The drive even shows up when I boot into OS 9. Just realize that those drives do use more power than the original IDE drives so having too many of them could cause issues since the power supplies in the G4s were not particularly high wattage compared to what came not long after in the G5s. I wouldn't put more than two of them in along side the smaller IDE boot drive unless you do some modding and either replace the psu(at which point it'd be easier just go external by use firewire or adding an eSATA card ) If the digital audio G4 or BW cases are anything like the gigabit G4, then you have 5 3.5 drive bays. The bracket the original boot drive is installed in is actually made for two drives. There are two more single-drive brackets screwed into the bottom of the case between the two-drive bracket and the front of the case, and then there is the one more drive bay underneath the DVD drive. That said if you filled them all with the newest drives you'd probably overwhelm the power supply as I mentioned earlier. -Matt -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about hard drives
On Aug 28, 9:35 pm, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. A QS 2002 supports large drives natively. I would install a 500 GB or 750 GB drive on top of the existing drive. 750s might be tough to find, however. I don't have money to buy a drive. That's what I'd like to do, just add another drive; supposedly the QS has two bays for hard drives. I don't need a lot more space, but it would help to be able to store some of my stuff on a second drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about hard drives
Il giorno 29-08-2011 16:04, cheryl ha scritto: I don't have money to buy a drive. Today you can easily find used/old IDE HDs, for free or dirt cheap, since many people is getting rid of old PCs, HDs included. When I visit my recycling center/skip, I always find many discarded PCs with working HDs (for free, obviously ;-). You can have plenty! :-D Remember PC's IDE drives are exactly the same drives used in G3/G4 generations Macs. With old/used drives, you obviously have an higher risk of them failing. Just be careful and backup often. That's what I'd like to do, just add another drive; supposedly the QS has two bays for hard drives. As mentioned before, the standard bay on the bottom (where the default HD resides) has room and cables for two drives. Below the optical drive there's room (and, I think, cables) for a second unit; in my G4, they are used for the Zip drive, so I couldn't add an HD there. Plus, you could add a PCI card (IDE or SATA), as someone mentioned, and connect two more drives to that; but that would mean $$$. :-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about hard drives
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:26 AM, cheryl wrote: maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. Thanks! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA Good question Cheryl! I would like to use my QuickSilver 2002's drives as an automatic back up to my iMac Intel dual w/ OS 10.5.8. Hope you don't mind if I piggy-back your query. Thanks -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about hard drives
Below the optical drive there's room (and, I think, cables) for a second unit; in my G4, they are used for the Zip drive, so I couldn't add an HD there. The Zip drive bays may, in general, be used to house hard drives. In some cases, particularly with pre-QSes, it may be necessary to apply insulating tape to the interior of the bay. For this purpose I generally use Scotch (3M) filament strapping (packing) tape. Also, on QSes, it may be necessary to drill the bay for HD mounting screws. Remember: 1) the Zip bay was designed with Zip drives in mind, NOT HDs, and 2) although the external size of an HD is the same as a Zip, the two do not have the same mounting hardware nor the same hardware spacing (M3-0.5 for Zips, #6-32 UNC for HDs). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Question about hard drives
I have a Quicksilver 2002 and a Blue and White G3. I need more hard drive space. Would it be possible to use the hard drive from the G3 in the G4, or maybe hook the two towers together somehow? Just curious. Thanks! Cheryl Harris Tehachapi, CA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
