Re: Smurf startup issues
On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:54 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Listers, My G3 BW will not boot up.unless I use Safe Mode. When I try to boot normally, I see a rectangular black box in the center of my monitor. The box appears pretty early in the start-up sequence. I have nothing connected to the G3. No printer or CAT-5 for internet. The OS is 10.4.11 and the G3 has 1 GB of RAM. Look in the panic logs. It should give you a pointer to what's happening. Alternatively, start in verbose mode, and see what's on the screen when it panics. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Smurf
On Mar 30, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Can a Smurf G3 be booted into Target Mode? No. I want to upgrade the OS to 10.4.11 but the Smurf does not have a DVD drive. Options: 1) Tiger CD Installer 4 disc set 2) Use XPostFacto helper disk to boot from external Firewire DVD drive. 3) Boot from external USB DVD drive (very slow). 4) Clone the installer DVD to HD partition or USB Flash drive. 5) Remove HD, install Tiger elsewhere, replace HD. 6) Use NetBoot to install Tiger:http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2005050214484646 7) Clone Tiger from previously installed external System -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Smurf
Smurfs didn't have that functionality as far as I recall. Alternative would be to use an ext enclosure kit to attach it VIA firewire to another newer Mac that supports TD mode Example enclsure: http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?dest=5item=434681pid=_Froogleci_src=14110944ci_sku=808668 Make sure whatever enclosure you choose supports the older PATA (IDE) drives (that came in the smurfs) and says COMBO in the name of the model which usually indicates that both USB and Firewire ports and cables with the kit This is how we have done it --Cecile Santa Clara CA On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.netwrote: Greetings, Can a Smurf G3 be booted into Target Mode? I want to upgrade the OS to 10.4.11 but the Smurf does not have a DVD drive. Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+ unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject. -- They don't make 'em like they used to. It's why so many folks love old Macs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Smurf
enough already!! On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:03 PM, g...@gmx.net wrote: smurf,chief of the group! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: At 7:43 PM -0400 9/7/2009, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, dorayme wrote: How do you find out on Google, if you don't have inside knowledge, why some models were called smurfs? This is a good example of what we need to make sure we are teaching the next generation of students, how to search, combine ideas and what to look for. OTOH it's maybe it should be hard to find, and left as an exercise for the searcher. After all, a girl has to keep some mystery about her. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. A search with Clusty using Mac model smurf has the first three hits the Mac G3. Point the search to Mac first then model then smurf. At least it seems to work this way. I would imagine the same results would be returned but farther down the return list with a different order of the search terms. I don't use Google anymore or I would check using it. Please correct me as my assumptions are usually in error. :-[ Enjoy, ErnieG Only one of those links even comes close to the explanation of Smurf, and that is the lowendmac that includes a picture of smurfs with no label saying that this is a smurf on the page. Others just say something to the effect of Nickname: Smurf with no explanation if you did not know what a smurf is. While smurfs were pretty ingrained in the US (and I believe European) culture of the 1970's and 80's there are many cultures that have never heard of them. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Ernest L. Gunerius wrote: At 7:43 PM -0400 9/7/2009, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, dorayme wrote: How do you find out on Google, if you don't have inside knowledge, why some models were called smurfs? This is a good example of what we need to make sure we are teaching the next generation of students, how to search, combine ideas and what to look for. Snip: - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. A search with Clusty using Mac model smurf has the first three hits the Mac G3. Point the search to Mac first then model then smurf. At least it seems to work this way. I would imagine the same results would be returned but farther down the return list with a different order of the search terms. Snip: ErnieG Only one of those links even comes close to the explanation of Smurf, and that is the lowendmac that includes a picture of smurfs with no label saying that this is a smurf on the page. Others just say something to the effect of Nickname: Smurf with no explanation if you did not know what a smurf is. While smurfs were pretty ingrained in the US (and I believe European) culture of the 1970's and 80's there are many cultures that have never heard of them. Len Sorry: I thought the questions were: why some models were called smurfs? and then: how to search, combine ideas and whatto look for. All other reported searches seemed to say they only found the description of the little Blue and White figures with no connection to Macs. The example I gave answered two of the questions. That leaves: combine ideas and whatto look for. Which are beyond my teaching skills. :-( As i said my assumptions are usually in error. :-[ ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
The smurfs (pitufos in Spanish) were very popular in the early 1980s Spain. When the PowerMac G3 BW appeared, it was quickly nicknamed pitufo as both were blue and white. The original iMac G3 was popularly known as cabezon (Big headed), while the fancy iMac G4 was known as Lamparita (desk lamp). Until the late 1990s Macs were a real rarity around here. The iMac G3 was the first popular model and raised brand awareness quite a bit. Gorka from Spain -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 4:52 am From: Len Gerstel ... Only one of those links even comes close to the explanation of Smurf, and that is the lowendmac that includes a picture of smurfs with no label saying that this is a smurf on the page. Others just say something to the effect of Nickname: Smurf with no explanation if you did not know what a smurf is. While smurfs were pretty ingrained in the US (and I believe European) culture of the 1970's and 80's there are many cultures that have never heard of them. It is hard to see why finding out something is hard if you already know it. On one page that came up on a reasonable search request, there were some smurfs with red in them! I think red hats or boots, I forget! Anyway, you can see in all of this, the importance, when making informative web pages, to have informative headings and text that can be picked up in grabs by search engines. You can be very informative in a long piece on something without it being search engine friendly. I guess that writing with search engines in mind is not exactly a skill easily learned and I am sure we can all imagine hilariously clumsy attempts to learn this skill! g -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
On one page that came up on a reasonable search request, there were some smurfs with red in them! I think red hats or boots, I forget! That was an one off smurf,chief of the group! There were also black smurfs, born from standard stock smurfs. FWIW, Gorka Enviado desde mi BlackBerry® de Vodafone --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:09 PM, dorayme wrote: How do you find out on Google, if you don't have inside knowledge, why some models were called smurfs? -- dorayme Well, let's see. Google smurf and the first hit you'll get says Smurfs were small blue people, and the images of them under the hit show them to be blue and white, with the blue very much the same shade as the first blue and white G3 towers. Hmmm. Is that why those G3 towers were called Smurfs? Good guess. HTH, :^) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, dorayme wrote: How do you find out on Google, if you don't have inside knowledge, why some models were called smurfs? This is a good example of what we need to make sure we are teaching the next generation of students, how to search, combine ideas and what to look for. Yes, I know the answer off the top of my head, but you may not know the cultural reference implied. The first search for: mac names smurf Came up blank on the first page. then Mac model names smurf got close, with a link to a Lowendmac.com page about the B W with a nickname listed of Smurf. Then I realized that smurf is not an official, or even developmental name of the machine, but one given to it by users. So I then googled mac model nicknames smurf and got a little closer, but still no win. Now, however, if you do an image search for smurf, knowing the bare history of apple computers will hopefully help you put the two concepts together. That search for smurf images will show you that they are blue skinned and most are shown wearing white clothes. That is how the Blue and white G3s got the nickname. But it does take a bit of outside of the box thinking that is very valuable to learn when almost all the information known to humankind is available with just a few keystrokes. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
At 7:43 PM -0400 9/7/2009, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, dorayme wrote: How do you find out on Google, if you don't have inside knowledge, why some models were called smurfs? This is a good example of what we need to make sure we are teaching the next generation of students, how to search, combine ideas and what to look for. OTOH it's maybe it should be hard to find, and left as an exercise for the searcher. After all, a girl has to keep some mystery about her. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf
At 7:43 PM -0400 9/7/2009, Len Gerstel wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, dorayme wrote: How do you find out on Google, if you don't have inside knowledge, why some models were called smurfs? This is a good example of what we need to make sure we are teaching the next generation of students, how to search, combine ideas and what to look for. OTOH it's maybe it should be hard to find, and left as an exercise for the searcher. After all, a girl has to keep some mystery about her. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. A search with Clusty using Mac model smurf has the first three hits the Mac G3. Point the search to Mac first then model then smurf. At least it seems to work this way. I would imagine the same results would be returned but farther down the return list with a different order of the search terms. I don't use Google anymore or I would check using it. Please correct me as my assumptions are usually in error. :-[ Enjoy, ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. Just upgraded a Blue White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4. The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS X on this disk. Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel and PPC versions. Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
Specifically chose the PPC version. Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN). On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. Just upgraded a Blue White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4. The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS X on this disk. Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel and PPC versions. Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
Specifically chose the PPC version. Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN). On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. Just upgraded a Blue White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4. The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS X on this disk. Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel and PPC versions. Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
Specifically chose the PPC version. Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN). On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. Just upgraded a Blue White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4. The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS X on this disk. Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel and PPC versions. Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. Just upgraded a Blue White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4. The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS X on this disk. Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edureplied: Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel and PPC versions. tonycd replied: Specifically chose the PPC version. Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net? Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN). Did you open System PreferenceNetwork to be sure the Realtek wireless port has been detected? You may need to reinstall the Realtek software, and also if the connection requires a wireless utility you may need to launch the utility manually if it's not automatically launching. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
Specifically chose the PPC version. Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN). On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. Just upgraded a Blue White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4. The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS X on this disk. Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel and PPC versions. Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
I'll check the Network preference pane. Later today, when I get back there. I agree about re-installing the Realtek client software. Of course, if it doesn't run under Tiger, I guess I'm in deeper doo-doo than I figured...but let's cross that doo-doo bridge when we come to it. Did you open System PreferenceNetwork to be sure the Realtek wireless port has been detected? You may need to reinstall the Realtek software, and also if the connection requires a wireless utility you may need to launch the utility manually if it's not automatically launching. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates
I'll check the Network preference pane. Later today, when I get back there. I agree about re-installing the Realtek client software. Of course, if it doesn't run under Tiger, I guess I'm in deeper doo-doo than I figured...but let's cross that doo-doo bridge when we come to it. Did you open System PreferenceNetwork to be sure the Realtek wireless port has been detected? You may need to reinstall the Realtek software, and also if the connection requires a wireless utility you may need to launch the utility manually if it's not automatically launching. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---