Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 17, 2008, at 6:45 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 1 of 4 == Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 12:15 pm From: Will S I've used the download feature of Software Update many times. I set it to download only(no install) . You can then install just like a regular downloaded file and your file is of course still there when your done. Download and then install I've no idea. Seems like it should be but then Apple still hasn't updated info that Packages are no longer saved as they were in older MaxOS X versions. Maybe I do not understand the discussion here about downloads. With Apple software updates, I take the cue from the Software Update feature in the Apple Menu, go to Apple's Download tab on their web site, and then download the stuff. With Leopard, the package ends up in the Downloads folder which is a permanent resident in the Dock. There, I open the archive, execute the install. The disk image disappears in a restart, or I just trash it. The downloaded package just sits there in the Downloads folder unless I move it elsewhere. With Panther and Tiger, Safari put the packages into my designated place, the Desktop. Then when I was finished installing, I moved them into my own Software Archives folder. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 18, 2008, at 2:46 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 2 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 9:04 am From: Charles Davis On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Al Poulin wrote: Maybe I do not understand the discussion here about downloads. With Apple software updates, I take the cue from the Software Update feature in the Apple Menu, go to Apple's Download tab on their web site, and then download the stuff. With Leopard, the package ends up in the Downloads folder which is a permanent resident in the Dock. There, I open the archive, execute the install. The disk image disappears in a restart, or I just trash it. The downloaded package just sits there in the Downloads folder unless I move it elsewhere. With Panther and Tiger, Safari put the packages into my designated place, the Desktop. Then when I was finished installing, I moved them into my own Software Archives folder. Safari??? Using Apples 'Software update' (Tiger) -- you don't need safari, or any other browser running. Software Update is 'Stand Alone', and unless you have used one of the menu choices, [Install Keep Package, Download Only, Install (same as just using the 'Install' button on the Software Update selection screen)], when the install is complete, the Package is gone. Thanks, Chuck, for explaining how Software Update does things with its various options. I've used Software Update for direct installs for updating applications, but I prefer to use Safari for downloading OS and Security Updates and then installing them at a later time. With Software Update, I've never gone Spotlighting for where the packages end up. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
I have a problem now with 10.5.5. I got a 1 TB Time Capsule connected wirelessly. It was recognized as a Time Machine backup in 10.5.4, but now it's not seen in 10.5.5. I'll futz with it later. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
With 10.5.5 ... I'm getting occasional Kernal Panics at startup. May have something ti do with a USB 2 wireless Airlink ethernet hooked to a Sonnet Trio USB 2/FW/ATA card? Curious ... as I have a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz ... no PCIe cards. Here's what's sent to Apple: Thu Sep 18 17:44:41 2008 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x700 - Program DAR=0x00102000 PC=0x388C Latest crash info for cpu 1: Exception state (sv=0x4a974000) PC=0x388C; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x00102000; DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x0033B37C; R1=0x2F8E7C10; XCP=0x001C (0x700 - Program) Backtrace: 0x0033B360 0x0033B410 0x00340540 0x003407F0 0x00377140 0x0008E9A4 0x0002C1C8 0x00024C94 0x000B2E4C 0x Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x4a974000) previously dumped as Latest state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x4a98ec80) PC=0x9149D438; MSR=0xF030; DAR=0xA0928F64; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x914A4360; R1=0xB680; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 - System call) BSD process name corresponding to current thread: PCIESlotCheck Mac OS version: 9F33 Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 9.5.0: Wed Sep 3 11:31:44 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.7.58~1/RELEASE_PPC System model name: PowerMac3,5 panic(cpu 1 caller 0x0007): 0x700 - Program Latest stack backtrace for cpu 1: Backtrace: 0x0009B518 0x0009BEBC 0x00029DD8 0x000AF110 0x000B2AF8 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x4a974000) PC=0x388C; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x00102000; DSISR=0x4200; LR=0x0033B37C; R1=0x2F8E7C10; XCP=0x001C (0x700 - Program) Backtrace: 0x0033B360 0x0033B410 0x00340540 0x003407F0 0x00377140 0x0008E9A4 0x0002C1C8 0x00024C94 0x000B2E4C 0x Exception state (sv=0x4a98ec80) PC=0x9149D438; MSR=0xF030; DAR=0xA0928F64; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x914A4360; R1=0xB680; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 - System call) BSD process name corresponding to current thread: PCIESlotCheck. Bill Connelly Musician and Painter artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio/ myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 18, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Al Poulin wrote: On Sep 18, 2008, at 2:46 PM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 2 of 2 == Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 9:04 am From: Charles Davis On Sep 18, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Al Poulin wrote: Maybe I do not understand the discussion here about downloads. With Apple software updates, I take the cue from the Software Update feature in the Apple Menu, go to Apple's Download tab on their web site, and then download the stuff. With Leopard, the package ends up in the Downloads folder which is a permanent resident in the Dock. There, I open the archive, execute the install. The disk image disappears in a restart, or I just trash it. The downloaded package just sits there in the Downloads folder unless I move it elsewhere. With Panther and Tiger, Safari put the packages into my designated place, the Desktop. Then when I was finished installing, I moved them into my own Software Archives folder. Safari??? Using Apples 'Software update' (Tiger) -- you don't need safari, or any other browser running. Software Update is 'Stand Alone', and unless you have used one of the menu choices, [Install Keep Package, Download Only, Install (same as just using the 'Install' button on the Software Update selection screen)], when the install is complete, the Package is gone. Thanks, Chuck, for explaining how Software Update does things with its various options. I've used Software Update for direct installs for updating applications, but I prefer to use Safari for downloading OS and Security Updates and then installing them at a later time. With Software Update, I've never gone Spotlighting for where the packages end up. Al Poulin Yeah, NOT using Apple's Software Update generates it's own set of uniqueness. Not the leas of which is Finding the correct download. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 17, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Will S wrote: I've used the download feature of Software Update many times. I set it to download only(no install) . You can then install just like a regular downloaded file and your file is of course still there when your done. Download and then install I've no idea. Seems like it should be but then Apple still hasn't updated info that Packages are no longer saved as they were in older MaxOS X versions. On Sep 16, 10:17 am, Charles Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 15, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Charles Davis wrote: I had my MacBook Pro with 10.5.4 do a download only. The packages appeared in my Download folder, which SU opened when it was done. The NEXT QUESTION is, When SU gets done with the 'update', is the 'package still there in the 'Download folder'? Chuck D. -- Clark Martin If it is working as expected, then fine. I'm always leery of 'Install' program that may 'clean up' after themselves. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
I have a mixture of G5 8-core MacPro machines at work - so I downloaded the 600MB+ Combo update for use on each/all. No problems or issues as yet. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Ted Treen wrote: I have a mixture of G5 8-core MacPro machines at work - so I downloaded the 600MB+ Combo update for use on each/all. No problems or issues as yet. Ted I haven't downloaded it yet, but the size I'm offered is only 136MB. George Mac OS X 10.5.4 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 16, 2008, at 6:17 AM, Ted Treen wrote: I have a mixture of G5 8-core MacPro machines at work - so I downloaded the 600MB+ Combo update for use on each/all. I think Apple may have finally come up with the proverbial silver bullet which renders OS X86 boxes useless. Although other OS X86 users have reported no problema with the 10.5.5 Delta Update (for bringing a Hackintosh running the Vanilla [ retail DVD ] version of Mac OS 10.5.4 up to 10.5.5), my Hackintosh, equivalent to an OpenPro/MacPro, got a kernel panic during the Software Update process itself, thereafter leaving the partially updated system completely unusable. Fortunately, I have an identical 1 TB disk as an on-line back-up to my usual boot disk. And, fortunately, I had synched the two just before applying the update. I am, therefore, hesitant to apply the update to my G4s (I have no G5s, nor do I have any Intel Macs). It is believed that 10.5.5 does update the MacOS kernel, but this was no problema for the 10.5.4 update, which also updated the kernel. I will likely age the update, and try again, after others running G4s, and others running Hackintoshes, too, report positive results. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:42 AM, George Hozendorf wrote: On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Ted Treen wrote: I have a mixture of G5 8-core MacPro machines at work - so I downloaded the 600MB+ Combo update for use on each/all. No problems or issues as yet. Ted I haven't downloaded it yet, but the size I'm offered is only 136MB. George Mac OS X 10.5.4 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM George: The problem is _probably_ the difference between what is 'offered' by 'Software Update', and what can be found at 'Apple Software Downloads' Chuck D. Which is preferable for my machine? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Leopard 10.5.5 Update is out today
On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Kris Tilford wrote: On Sep 15, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Charles Davis wrote: You are looking in Library/packages aren't you? This is where it is in Tiger. My Leopard installation was clean, not an upgrade, so I have no Packages folder in my Library. I believe we've discussed this before? I thought this is a Leopard bug? A quick Google search of Install and save package Leopard, will show lots of people saying they have no saved packages in Leopard. I'm going to add an empty Packages folder to my ~/Library and see if it will work in the future? I doubt it. I had my MacBook Pro with 10.5.4 do a download only. The packages appeared in my Download folder, which SU opened when it was done. The NEXT QUESTION is, When SU gets done with the 'update', is the 'package still there in the 'Download folder'? Chuck D. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
