Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-08 Thread Anne Keller-Smith

Pete,

Call your local CVS or similar drugstore and find out if you can use  
the Kodak print machines to copy the photos as you would to make  
enlargements, and then get a disc with them on. Seems to me it should  
be possible.

On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:39 AM, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them  
 to my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years  
 ago!).
 TIA.
 Pete


 




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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Ken Daggett


On 6 Apr 2009, at 22:39:32 PDT, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them  
 to my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years  
 ago!).
 TIA.
 Pete


So, what's the question? If you are talking about printed
photos, you will have to digitize them somehow. A scanner
is the only reasonable way I know of. Buy a good one and
get to work.

Ken
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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Brian Christmas

On 07/04/2009, at 3:39 PM, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them to  
 my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years ago!).
 TIA.
 Pete



G'day Pete.

If you've got access to a reasonable digital camera, take photos of  
your old photos under good lighting, without flash, and load them into  
iPhoto (if you really don't want to buy a scanner).

Regards

Santa
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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Kris Tilford

 On 6 Apr 2009, at 22:39:32 PDT, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them
 to my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years
 ago!).

On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Ken Daggett wrote:

 A scanner is the only reasonable way I know of.

Another way is to photograph them with a digital camera. Not as easy  
as the scanner for constant lighting, focus, etc, but it can work.

 Buy a good one and get to work.

I don't know about needing a good one? It seems to me that any old  
scanner that you can make work with your computer will be good enough  
quality unless you're needing special software bundled with high-end  
scanners to remove artifacts, correct faded colors or focus, etc.

I've bought USB scanners for between $2 and $10 total that can scan  
4,800 dpi (ppi). I haven't compared the quality of the output, but  
somehow I imagine it's like .mp3 audio, I doubt the average person  
could see the difference between an average scan and a good one (of  
identical resolution  bit depth).

One other thought, scanner output is typically gigantic files that  
would need to be converted into some sort of compressed format,  
whereas most digital cameras can generate a reasonably compressed file  
immediately. The general rule-of-thumb I've heard is 200 pixels-per- 
inch minimally, meaning if you had an original photo that was 8 x 10  
you'd need to be at 1,600 x 2,000 pixels minimally for the entire  
image. Most scanners would be many, many multiples higher than this,  
and you might want to dial down the quality of a scanner to get a  
smaller output file, but if you were photographing the prints you'd  
likely want to frame the image in nearer the highest quality available  
on the camera.

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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Ken Daggett


On 6 Apr 2009, at 23:39:57 PDT, Kris Tilford wrote:


 On 6 Apr 2009, at 22:39:32 PDT, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them
 to my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years
 ago!).

 On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Ken Daggett wrote:

 A scanner is the only reasonable way I know of.

 Another way is to photograph them with a digital camera. Not as easy
 as the scanner for constant lighting, focus, etc, but it can work.

 Buy a good one and get to work.

 I don't know about needing a good one? It seems to me that any old
 scanner that you can make work with your computer will be good enough
 quality unless you're needing special software bundled with high-end
 scanners to remove artifacts, correct faded colors or focus, etc.

 I've bought USB scanners for between $2 and $10 total that can scan
 4,800 dpi (ppi). I haven't compared the quality of the output, but
 somehow I imagine it's like .mp3 audio, I doubt the average person
 could see the difference between an average scan and a good one (of
 identical resolution  bit depth).

 One other thought, scanner output is typically gigantic files that
 would need to be converted into some sort of compressed format,
 whereas most digital cameras can generate a reasonably compressed file
 immediately. The general rule-of-thumb I've heard is 200 pixels-per-
 inch minimally, meaning if you had an original photo that was 8 x 10
 you'd need to be at 1,600 x 2,000 pixels minimally for the entire
 image. Most scanners would be many, many multiples higher than this,
 and you might want to dial down the quality of a scanner to get a
 smaller output file, but if you were photographing the prints you'd
 likely want to frame the image in nearer the highest quality available
 on the camera.

Well, my good one is an Epson Perfection 3200 Pro that I got at
a GoodWill Outlet for $5.00. It's main advantage is the software
(downloaded from Epson) and you can scan at whatever resolution
you want. It is FireWire and fast.

I really don't believe, especially for any significant number, that
I would enjoy photographing various sized photos with a digital camera.
trying to hold them flat and square and getting good results would try
my patience. The photos would most likely go back in the shoe box!

Ken
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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread PETE
I guess it was wishful thinking on my part! I did not want to buy another 
scanner -  now I may have to.
Pete. 

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: OT - Photos
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:06 PM



On 6 Apr 2009, at 22:39:32 PDT, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them  
 to my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years  
 ago!).
 TIA.
 Pete


So, what's the question? If you are talking about printed
photos, you will have to digitize them somehow. A scanner
is the only reasonable way I know of. Buy a good one and
get to work.

Ken
http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs







  
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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread PETE
I'm curious, will I lose any quality?
Pete.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au wrote:

From: Brian Christmas b...@tpg.com.au
Subject: Re: OT - Photos
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Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:12 PM


On 07/04/2009, at 3:39 PM, PETE wrote:
I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them to my mac 
without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years ago!).
TIA.
Pete 



G'day Pete.
If you've got access to a reasonable digital camera, take photos of your old 
photos under good lighting, without flash, and load them into iPhoto (if you 
really don't want to buy a scanner).
Regards
Santa







  
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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread PETE
I found an  Epson Perfection® 3200 PHOTO Flatbed Scanner on ebay but, at $ 
150.00, I think that is steep for something I will not put to much use. Anybody 
know of good scanners? I liked the description of the epson but the price kind 
of puts me off at the moment.
Pete.    

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: OT - Photos
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 6:23 AM



On 6 Apr 2009, at 23:39:57 PDT, Kris Tilford wrote:


 On 6 Apr 2009, at 22:39:32 PDT, PETE wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them
 to my mac without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years
 ago!).

 On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Ken Daggett wrote:

 A scanner is the only reasonable way I know of.

 Another way is to photograph them with a digital camera. Not as easy
 as the scanner for constant lighting, focus, etc, but it can work.

 Buy a good one and get to work.

 I don't know about needing a good one? It seems to me that any old
 scanner that you can make work with your computer will be good enough
 quality unless you're needing special software bundled with high-end
 scanners to remove artifacts, correct faded colors or focus, etc.

 I've bought USB scanners for between $2 and $10 total that can scan
 4,800 dpi (ppi). I haven't compared the quality of the output, but
 somehow I imagine it's like .mp3 audio, I doubt the average person
 could see the difference between an average scan and a good one (of
 identical resolution  bit depth).

.

Well, my good one is an Epson Perfection 3200 Pro that I got at
a GoodWill Outlet for $5.00. It's main advantage is the software
(downloaded from Epson) and you can scan at whatever resolution
you want. It is FireWire and fast.






  
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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Mark

PETE wrote:
 I'm curious, will I lose any quality?
 Pete.



 .






Basically, you lose at every step of reproduction.
ok
-insert sex jokes here-

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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Apr 7, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Ken Daggett wrote:

 I really don't believe, especially for any significant number, that
 I would enjoy photographing various sized photos with a digital  
 camera.
 trying to hold them flat and square and getting good results would try
 my patience. The photos would most likely go back in the shoe box!

That's why I'd spend a half-day making a copy stand 
first...http://www.csigizmos.com/products/photography/photostand.html 
 . That could easily be modified to incorporate a piece of matte  
glass to flatten the photo and provide an even lighting, and  
extensions to hold ordinary photo lights , or use something like this:

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/03/pvc_light_box_light_tent.html



-- 
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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Charles Lenington

Steve R wrote:
 At 7:09 AM -0700 4/7/09, PETE posted:
 I found an 
 'http://cgi.ebay.com/Epson-Perfection-3200-PHOTO-Flatbed-Scanner_W0QQitemZ310133794696QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item310133794696_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%Epson
  
 Perfection® 3200 PHOTO Flatbed Scanner on ebay but, at $ 150.00, I 
 think that is steep for something I will not put to much use. Anybody 
 know of good scanners? I liked the description of the epson but the 
 price kind of puts me off at the moment.
 Pete.


 Depending on where you live, you might be able to find someone on 
 your local freecycle list who would be willing to lend you a scanner 
 to get the job done.

 Steve R

   
I have a dozen or so scanners (hardware only) I don't need. Shipping and 
small donation to storage locker fees. Note to off list address.
Chuck

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Re: OT - Photos

2009-04-07 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:39 AM, PETE sabaoth...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have some old photos without negatives. I want to transfer them to my mac
 without losing quality. (I sold my scanner several years ago!).
 ___


How ever you digitize them I recommend as high a resolution as your
equipment and storage space allows .

This will allow much more flexibility of use later should you wish to
enlarge them for print out or scale them ( zoom in ) in a video.

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