Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-04-01 Thread Gene Henley
According to the site I referenced,BOTH the G4 Quicksilver and Audio Digital 
are

22 pins.
 Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!





If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
supply to be easily modified to work in
the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out.
 I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a  failed supply.
 If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to
use it. If not, I look for reasons why.


It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to
Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series.

Fry's Electronics sells the pins in bags of 100.

If you have, say, a 24 pin housing, then you may cut it down to 22 pin.
Obviously, the reverse is not possible.

A possible source for housings is old PC PSUs. These use the same Mini-Fit
Jr series as Apple does, but a different configuration (20 or 24 pins).

Try Digi-Key for the pin housings. Also the pins and possibly the tools.

Or, your friendly Molex distributor.


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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-04-01 Thread Gene Henley
I don`t have a QUICKSILVER.
I have an Audio Digital.
   Gene


  - Original Message - 
  From: Miguel Garcia-Gell 
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  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:09 AM
  Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!


  Keep The Quick Silver!!!...The AD G4 is a nice PPC but what you try to do is 
like MJ moon walk.

  On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote:




If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 
supply to be easily modified to work in
the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. 
 I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply.
 If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to 
use it. If not, I look for reasons why.
   Cheers
  Gene


http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml 

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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-04-01 Thread Gene Henley


Why do I need connectors?
Look at the pinouts of the Quicksilver G4 and the 
AD.

Both are 22 pins.
Gene


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On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:






There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors 
modified to do things like that. Have you googled it?




talking to myself as others watch ... is this related:
http://atxg4.com/quicksilver.html

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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-30 Thread Gene Henley

According to the diagram(pinouts) of the site I referenced,
the pin colours,numbers,and voltages are the same.
Quicksilver and Audio Digital are identical in main 22 pin
connector. Do you agree?
   Cheers
 Gene


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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!





If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
supply to be easily modified to work in
the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out.
 I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply.
 If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to
use it. If not, I look for reasons why.


OF COURSE it may be modified.

The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at least
internally.

The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo.

If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this task is
considerably simplified.

I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex
(Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc
distributors.



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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-30 Thread dc
On Mar 30, 12:57 am, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:
  If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
  supply to be easily modified to work in
  the Audio Digital G4.

 It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to
 Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series.

It's easy to remove the purple +28V wire from a QS PSU, you don't need
special tools. You just need 2 heavy duty sewing needles; push them in
the sides of the pin to compress the lock tabs and pull the purple
wire out, shazam! you have a Digital Audio PSU!

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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-29 Thread peterhaas

 If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
 supply to be easily modified to work in
 the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out.
  I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply.
  If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to
 use it. If not, I look for reasons why.

OF COURSE it may be modified.

The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at least
internally.

The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo.

If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this task is
considerably simplified.

I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex
(Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc
distributors.



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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-29 Thread Bill Connelly


On Mar 29, 2011, at 7:06 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:


OF COURSE it may be modified.

The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at  
least

internally.

The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo.

If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this  
task is

considerably simplified.

I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex
(Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc
distributors.



There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors  
modified to do things like that. Have you googled it?


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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-29 Thread Bill Connelly


On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:






There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors  
modified to do things like that. Have you googled it?




talking to myself as others watch ... is this related:
http://atxg4.com/quicksilver.html

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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-29 Thread Miguel Garcia-Gell
Keep The Quick Silver!!!...The AD G4 is a nice PPC but what you try to do is 
like MJ moon walk.

On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote:

  
  
 If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
 supply to be easily modified to work in
 the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. 
  I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a  failed supply.
  If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to
 use it. If not, I look for reasons why.
Cheers
   Gene
  
 http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml
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Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!

2011-03-29 Thread peterhaas

 If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4
 supply to be easily modified to work in
 the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out.
  I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a  failed supply.
  If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to
 use it. If not, I look for reasons why.

It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to
Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series.

Fry's Electronics sells the pins in bags of 100.

If you have, say, a 24 pin housing, then you may cut it down to 22 pin.
Obviously, the reverse is not possible.

A possible source for housings is old PC PSUs. These use the same Mini-Fit
Jr series as Apple does, but a different configuration (20 or 24 pins).

Try Digi-Key for the pin housings. Also the pins and possibly the tools.

Or, your friendly Molex distributor.


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