Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
According to the site I referenced,BOTH the G4 Quicksilver and Audio Digital are 22 pins. Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:57 AM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series. Fry's Electronics sells the pins in bags of 100. If you have, say, a 24 pin housing, then you may cut it down to 22 pin. Obviously, the reverse is not possible. A possible source for housings is old PC PSUs. These use the same Mini-Fit Jr series as Apple does, but a different configuration (20 or 24 pins). Try Digi-Key for the pin housings. Also the pins and possibly the tools. Or, your friendly Molex distributor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
I don`t have a QUICKSILVER. I have an Audio Digital. Gene - Original Message - From: Miguel Garcia-Gell To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:09 AM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! Keep The Quick Silver!!!...The AD G4 is a nice PPC but what you try to do is like MJ moon walk. On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. Cheers Gene http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
Why do I need connectors? Look at the pinouts of the Quicksilver G4 and the AD. Both are 22 pins. Gene From: Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:25 PM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors modified to do things like that. Have you googled it? talking to myself as others watch ... is this related: http://atxg4.com/quicksilver.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
According to the diagram(pinouts) of the site I referenced, the pin colours,numbers,and voltages are the same. Quicksilver and Audio Digital are identical in main 22 pin connector. Do you agree? Cheers Gene From: peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:06 PM Subject: Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?! If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. OF COURSE it may be modified. The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at least internally. The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo. If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this task is considerably simplified. I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex (Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc distributors. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
On Mar 30, 12:57 am, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series. It's easy to remove the purple +28V wire from a QS PSU, you don't need special tools. You just need 2 heavy duty sewing needles; push them in the sides of the pin to compress the lock tabs and pull the purple wire out, shazam! you have a Digital Audio PSU! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. OF COURSE it may be modified. The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at least internally. The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo. If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this task is considerably simplified. I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex (Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc distributors. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
On Mar 29, 2011, at 7:06 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: OF COURSE it may be modified. The PSUs of all the recent pre-MDD G4 are essentially identical, at least internally. The main difference, then, is the physical connections to the mobo. If you have a Molex Mini-Fit-Jr pin extractor and inserter, this task is considerably simplified. I believe all the connector shells and connector pins are from Molex (Japan) Ltd, but the tooling is available from several Molex (USA) Inc distributors. There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors modified to do things like that. Have you googled it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: There's something on the internet about it. Someone sells connectors modified to do things like that. Have you googled it? talking to myself as others watch ... is this related: http://atxg4.com/quicksilver.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
Keep The Quick Silver!!!...The AD G4 is a nice PPC but what you try to do is like MJ moon walk. On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@verizon.net wrote: If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. Cheers Gene http://www.outofspec.com/frankenmac/wire.shtml -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OutOfSpec.COM - Cut the red wire or the green one?!
If this site is correct, then I would expect the Quicksilver G4 supply to be easily modified to work in the Audio Digital G4. This is what I`m trying to find out. I have a G4 Audio Digital 733 which has a failed supply. If the Quicksilver G4 supply can be modified, I`d like to use it. If not, I look for reasons why. It's easy IF you have the Molex (USA) Inc special tools and access to Molex (Japan) Ltd pin housings for the Mini-Fit Jr series. Fry's Electronics sells the pins in bags of 100. If you have, say, a 24 pin housing, then you may cut it down to 22 pin. Obviously, the reverse is not possible. A possible source for housings is old PC PSUs. These use the same Mini-Fit Jr series as Apple does, but a different configuration (20 or 24 pins). Try Digi-Key for the pin housings. Also the pins and possibly the tools. Or, your friendly Molex distributor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list