Re: Seagate drive quality (announcement)
At 8:27 AM -0700 12/17/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Dan wrote: Then some non-volatile RAM (flash of one type or another) for the next n YB. Wowsa! YottaBytes! isn't that, like the library of congress in high def facsimile AND a redundant backup of all the pr0n in the world? 8-) High-def rulz! Data is like gas - it expands to fill all available space. Besides, sometimes a backup of your kid's text messages is a Good Thing. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate drive quality (announcement)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Dan wrote: Then some non-volatile RAM (flash of one type or another) for the next n YB. Wowsa! YottaBytes! isn't that, like the library of congress in high def facsimile AND a redundant backup of all the pr0n in the world? 8-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate drive quality (announcement)
On 12/16/08 10:46 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: What's next? A 23% repair rate on Mac laptops? Smaller crackers in the box for the same price? I know, 3.5 oz yogurt in the 6 oz cup! Actually. During the last survey done in 2007 the repair rate on Apple laptops was 41%. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate drive quality (announcement)
Dan wrote: Well, I guess this means all bets are off. To me, Seagate was a name that indicated drives of the highest quality... but if the company doesn't have faith in their own products... http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/12/12/seagate_cuts_bare_drive_warranty/ For products purchased on or after January 3, 2009, the limited warranty period for consumer electronics, notebook and personal storage bare drives sold to Seagate Authorized Distributors will be changed from 5 to 3 years. sigh. A Seagate Bare Drive Warranty Change FAQ strongly rebuts any suggestion that this reflects lower confidence in product quality. Yea right. ROFLMAO. What's next? A 23% repair rate on Mac laptops? Smaller crackers in the box for the same price? I know, 3.5 oz yogurt in the 6 oz cup! sigh. - Dan. Take heart... I remember back to the 1980's and early '90's when you almost couldn't give a Seagate away - - - Horrible failure rates. At the time, one would look to Quantum and later Fujitsu for dependability. Ain't it time for the primitive mechanical drive to be replaced by a solid state equivalent? JT (Who still has internal combustion engines in his cars) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate drive quality (announcement)
At 5:10 PM -0600 12/16/2008, James E. Therrault wrote: Ain't it time for the primitive mechanical drive to be replaced by a solid state equivalent? Reliability issues aside, yea right - over the dead bodies of the current drive manufacturers. OTOH, 25c per GB vs $5+ per GB... OTGH... Have you checked the spot price for memory chips recently? It's firmly *below* manufacturing cost. Many of the memory manufacturers are now on the verge of bankruptsy shutdown. They're asking their governments for billions in assistance. If that market collapses... This has mostly been reported in the tech sector. I expect it will hit the main stream media when MS asks Uncle to chip in a few hundred billion, so they don't loose their investment. MSFT, being a DOW stock, can't be allowed to tank out. Really tho... it's time for a slight paraduck shift. For decades, tape drives then terminals and other input devices emulated card reader / punches. Now we're going down that same road with hard drives. WHY are we screwing around emulating disk drives with memory? That's so last century! Just map the memory in-total: Use high speed cache for the first n MB. Then SDRAM for the next n GB. Then some non-volatile RAM (flash of one type or another) for the next n YB. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
