Re: WD My Book 2TB won't play nice

2015-07-03 Thread 'Ben Smith' via G-Group
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 From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it
 Date: Jul 02 08:32PM +0200
 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/1fb5acb5da2f0bf0

 Il giorno 02/07/15 03.30, smac0031 ha scritto:

 It won't work with my TiVo so I moved to
 plan B which was to use it with my DA G4.
 First, your DA G4 doesn't support volumes bigger than 128 GB.

 That means that you could use a bigger drive, but you have to subdivide it
 into partitions 128 GB or smaller (Disk Utility should be able to do that).
 That limit is valid for internal drives; I do not know about external ones
 (but I think it applies there as well).

SNIP
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 From: peterh...@cruzio.com
 Date: Jul 02 12:03PM -0700
 Url: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/msg/a1a9dd2989cb2220

 First, your DA G4 doesn't support volumes bigger than 128 GB.

 My shop had four G4 DAs, and all supported  128 GB (actual capacity is
 131,072).
SNIP

No 'hacks' are needed for USB or FireWire drives, the limit is purely
on the internal IDE controller,
With an external drive your only limitations are what is imposed by
the chipset in the enclosure, with modern enclosures there is no
problem using 6TB drives on your DA, the same applies if you use a PCI
SATA card internally, you are only limited by the cards chipset /
firmware.
so to reiterate, the only time you are limited to 128GB is when you
are connecting to the INTERNAL (on-board) IDE cable.
Ben.

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Re: WD My Book 2TB won't play nice

2015-07-02 Thread coverturtle
You may need to subdivide the drive into smaller volumes depending on 
what the capabilities are of the G4 firmware and the version of Mac OS 
you are running.  When formatting it's important to check the bootable 
box.  I'd look all the details up but you can do that yourself.


On 07/01/2015 09:30 PM, smac0031 wrote:
I tried to expand my TiVo. I got a 2TB WD My Book drive which turned 
out to be USB 3.0. It won't work with my TiVo Premire. As the TiVo 
wants an eSata drive.
I have had the model number for this eSata drive for quite some time, 
but when I went to buy it Amazon notified me there was a newer model a 
2TB drive for
the same price. So I bought it. It won't work with my TiVo so I moved 
to plan B which was to use it with my DA G4.


In futzing around with it I found it had the windows something or 
other file system on it. So I reformatted it, but it won't make nice 
with the G4 either as it messes up
the sleep mode and it won't wake up and failing waking up it won't 
find a boot drive on reboot. For the longest time my computer won't 
shut down or reboot from
the Apple menu and I've pretty much given up trying that so if I want 
to reboot or shut down I use the buttons on the front of the computer.


I'm pretty much thinking I will have to let this My Book drive sit 
until I get an Intel Mac, however, I noticed when I formatted this 
thing there were 4 different options
to format this drive for a Mac using Disk Utility. Does this make a 
difference or is it as I suspect the ongoing boot issue with the USB port?


Mark Murphy
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Re: WD My Book 2TB won't play nice

2015-07-02 Thread peterhaas

 First, your DA G4 doesn't support volumes bigger than 128 GB.

My shop had four G4 DAs, and all supported  128 GB (actual capacity is
131,072).

You may use HD Speedtools, but that is an extension, and is only available
after booting has been successfully completed.

You may use the Open Firmware hack, and that is available at all times as
it is persistently added to the boot ROM.

Lookup the O.F. hack in the usual places, and you will probably find
several versions of it, at least one of which will get the job done.

I say persistent, as the code required to support  128 GB [ * ] is
actually added to the writable portion of the boot ROM.

It is deleted whenever you do an O.F. reset (and which erases any such
additions to O.F.).

With the MDD machines, the  128 GB code was permanently in the boot ROM,
and cannot be deleted.


[ * ] Drives which are = 128 GB send a single parameter block to the
drive. Drives which are  128 GB send two parameter blocks, the first of
which has the low-order block IDs, and the second of which has the
high-order block IDs.

The O.F. hack enables sending the second parameter block for those cases
where two parameter blocks are expected. The ROM is actually capable of
sending the second parameter block, but it is inhibited from doing so on
DAs and earlier models.

Without the O.F. hack, only one parameter block is sent, irrespective of
the capacity of the drive, and which can lead to some rather strange
results as the block ID which the drive sees is really the MOD 131072
function applied to the actual block ID.





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Re: WD My Book 2TB won't play nice

2015-07-01 Thread gbud
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On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:30 PM, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to expand my TiVo. I got a 2TB WD My Book drive which turned out
 to be USB 3.0. It won't work with my TiVo Premire. As the TiVo wants an
 eSata drive.
 I have had the model number for this eSata drive for quite some time, but
 when I went to buy it Amazon notified me there was a newer model a 2TB
 drive for
 the same price. So I bought it. It won't work with my TiVo so I moved to
 plan B which was to use it with my DA G4.

 In futzing around with it I found it had the windows something or other
 file system on it. So I reformatted it, but it won't make nice with the G4
 either as it messes up
 the sleep mode and it won't wake up and failing waking up it  won't find a
 boot drive on reboot. For the longest time my computer won't shut down or
 reboot from
 the Apple menu and I've pretty much given up trying that so if I want to
 reboot or shut down I use the buttons on the front of the computer.

 I'm pretty much thinking I will have to let this My Book drive sit until I
 get an Intel Mac, however, I noticed when I formatted this thing there were
 4 different options
 to format this drive for a Mac using Disk Utility. Does this make a
 difference or is it as I suspect the ongoing boot issue with the USB port?

 Mark Murphy

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