Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I have been using Eudora for many years with OS 8, 9 and X. I have no complaints. Are other Eudora users on the List dissatisfied with the program? What are your complaints and why are you interested in replacing Eudora? Larry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 09:42 -0400 4/6/09, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I have been using Eudora for many years with OS 8, 9 and X. I have no complaints. Are other Eudora users on the List dissatisfied with the program? What are your complaints and why are you interested in replacing Eudora? The problem is that Qualcomm no longer supports Eudora and it cannot, or will not , release the source code to the open-source community. It has made a deal with the Thundebird folks but that doesn't seem to be continuing Eudora as we know it. With Apple and Microsoft changing their operating systems so fast nobody thinks Eudora will continue to work for long. Semper paratus. Prepared with Eudora 5.1 on Mac OS 9.1. I'm running claws-mail on my other - ubuntu - machine. It's not Eudora but what I don't like I can change if I have the time. -- -- In Christianity, man can have only one wife. This is known as monotony. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 6, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I have been using Eudora for many years with OS 8, 9 and X. I have no complaints. Are other Eudora users on the List dissatisfied with the program? What are your complaints and why are you interested in replacing Eudora? On an IMAP server Eudora suxrox. It was always just a kludge getting Eudora working with IMAP servers and it's been known to wedge the account badly enough to need sysadmin intervention to kill the dozens and dozens of processes on the server it creates. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 9:42 AM -0400 4/6/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I have been using Eudora for many years with OS 8, 9 and X. I have no complaints. Are other Eudora users on the List dissatisfied with the program? What are your complaints and why are you interested in replacing Eudora? My only complaints: Eudora gets unstable when handling large mailboxes, ones with close to the 32,000 message per limit. And the sound support in Eudora is broken in Tiger and causes crashes in Leopard. I'd like to see those fixed, plus some growl support. But that ain't gonna happen. For now, I'm happy with Eudora and have little interest in switching. But if something comes along... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I have been using Eudora for many years with OS 8, 9 and X. I have no complaints. Are other Eudora users on the List dissatisfied with the program? What are your complaints and why are you interested in replacing Eudora? Larry I have been using Eudora from Eudora 1.3.1 to 6.2.4 (all of which I have saved). I don't use IMAP and probably never will. I don't trust foreign storage. I also do not travel with a computer so have no need to access Email from different computers. I do not use Browser email. Eudora has always met my, admittedly, simple Email needs. Simple, no-hassle, Text format files that can be easily saved and copied. Easily filtered to different mailboxes. I don't know if the x-eudora-settings are still active but they did add many functions to the Menus. I am not a Luddite but am a retired Dinosaur with limited funds. ErnieG --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Previously, at 2:38 pm -0400 4/4/09, diane wrote: At 6:13 AM -0700 4/4/09, Goody2 wrote: Infinity Data Systems is developing an updated version of Eudora. Was originally called Odysseus, now MailForge. Still in beta (free), almost ready for prime time ($40). The latest version is 1.0 Beta 18. For info, download etc. go to http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/ mailforge/index.html You have to register with their Forum in order to download. Charles Moore of Applelinks, another Eudora fan, is following the development of Odysseus/MailForge, writing reviews, etc. The most recent one I could find is at http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/comments/22088/ Wow, I had not heard of this before. Is this truly similar to the way Eudora is set up, with separate windows? Thanks so much for the info! I found a copy here: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/30676/mailforge P. -- - Reaganomics proved what every farmer knows: The only thing that trickles down is fertilizer! - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 9:41 AM -0600 4/5/09, Paul Stamsen posted: Previously, at 2:38 pm -0400 4/4/09, diane wrote: At 6:13 AM -0700 4/4/09, Goody2 wrote: Infinity Data Systems is developing an updated version of Eudora. Was originally called Odysseus, now MailForge. Still in beta (free), almost ready for prime time ($40). The latest version is 1.0 Beta 18. For info, download etc. go to http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/ mailforge/index.html You have to register with their Forum in order to download. Charles Moore of Applelinks, another Eudora fan, is following the development of Odysseus/MailForge, writing reviews, etc. The most recent one I could find is at http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/comments/22088/ Wow, I had not heard of this before. Is this truly similar to the way Eudora is set up, with separate windows? Thanks so much for the info! I found a copy here: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/30676/mailforge There's supposed to be a R3 release this weekend according to the forums. The link in the forums (the only one the developers want used) is the R2 release, which immediately crashed for me. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 3, 9:39 pm, Paul Stamsen paterfami...@gmail.com wrote: Previously, at 5:54 pm -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden wrote: I too am still using Eudora and, with the complexity of my mailbox organization and associated filters, returning to a three-pane window after reading each message would drive me crazy in short order. I am on a large number of mailing lists on different topics of interest. Each mailing list has its own mailbox and filters allocate new input messages to the appropriate mailboxes, allowing me complete control over what and how I read. Each mailbox has a time-ordered list of messages, collected by subject. I frequently keep interesting threaded discussions which do not take up much room since they are text-only. Why can't anyone upgrade Eudora to be like Eudora? I have been using it since my Performa and I'll stop when they pry it out of my cold dead Mac! P. Infinity Data Systems is developing an updated version of Eudora. Was originally called Odysseus, now MailForge. Still in beta (free), almost ready for prime time ($40). The latest version is 1.0 Beta 18. For info, download etc. go to http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/ mailforge/index.html You have to register with their Forum in order to download. Charles Moore of Applelinks, another Eudora fan, is following the development of Odysseus/MailForge, writing reviews, etc. The most recent one I could find is at http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/ comments/22088/ Herb Goodfriend --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 8:45 PM -0700 4/3/2009, Kyle Hansen wrote: As an Apple Certified Technician I am getting a ton of client complaints regarding Eudora, especially in the last few weeks. Real Eudora or Thunderbird with the Penelope strap-on? isn't Eudora just a different GUI over Thunderbird now? The Penelope project is working on that. It has far far far to go. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope I never really liked Eudora because it was freeware written for a University and it was not polished. I equated it to Norton. I spent more time troubleshooting those two programs than any others. Eudora evolved a lot from its University days. Vers 6 is quite polished, IMO, and very stable. If your clients are having problems with Eudora, then you need to dig in and fix it. Eudora (with sounds disabled) is quite stable on both Tiger and Leopard. *Sometimes* things get rocky if you have a lot of very large or corrupted mailboxes. There is a limit of 32,000 messages per mailbox. The ones to check are In, Out, and Trash -- they're kept open all the time. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Previously, at 11:45 pm -0400 4/3/09, Dan wrote: Eudora's alert sounds are broken in Tiger and known to cause deeper problems in Leopard. Quicktime hangs, freezes, etc. I'm not much for apps making noise either. I've got 'em all disabled, except for Adium. Gotta have the Duck. Long live the Duck! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I have them on on my BW and Mom's iMac and we've never had problems. What should I be watching out for? P. -- Sometimes the mind, for reasons we don't necessarily understand, just decides to go to the store for a quart of milk. -- Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:37 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I followed all the directions on the gmail site to set up the account via mail 3.0 using imap. I want to use the gmail account that I am using to write this email on. I have had this account for years. When I open my account through mail nothing happens. It doesn't start downloading my mail or anything even if i click get mail. It worked with pop. -Jonas You sure there is something there to download?? If you have been accessing the account with a pop setup, it may have deleted all the waiting messages already. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Previously, at 8:45 pm -0700 4/3/09, Kyle Hansen wrote: As an Apple Certified Technician I am getting a ton of client complaints regarding Eudora, especially in the last few weeks. I liked Eudora in 1996. But it was always glitchy for me. For some reasons a certain percentage of people LOVE it and would never switch. But isn't Eudora just a different GUI over Thunderbird now? Maybe it's the GUI I love? assuming we both mean the same thing by graphical user interface. From Wikipedia: On October 11, 2006, Qualcomm announced that future versions of Eudora would be based on the same technology platform as Mozilla Thunderbird and be open source. The current codename for this project is Penelope. Penelope is developed by the Mozilla Foundation, and the project is being led by the former Qualcomm team, including original developer Steve Dorner. I never really liked Eudora because it was freeware written for a University and it was not polished. I equated it to Norton. I spent more time troubleshooting those two programs than any others. I personally hate apple's mail client as well. When people's mail boxes get too large it tends to crash and lockup etc. That's why I use the evil Entourage. It can handle anything I throw at it. 50 mailboxes, 8 mailing lists, 100 filters etc. Never an issue. Oh, it's not free though. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. -- - Reaganomics proved what every farmer knows: The only thing that trickles down is fertilizer! - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 4, 12:37 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I followed all the directions on the gmail site to set up the account via mail 3.0 using imap. I want to use the gmail account that I am using to write this email on. I have had this account for years. When I open my account through mail nothing happens. It doesn't start downloading my mail or anything even if i click get mail. It worked with pop. -Jonas Did you disable POP and enable IMAP here? http://mail.google.com/mail/?zx=4f1a55b27hz0shva=1#settings/fwdandpop --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 6:13 AM -0700 4/4/09, Goody2 wrote: Infinity Data Systems is developing an updated version of Eudora. Was originally called Odysseus, now MailForge. Still in beta (free), almost ready for prime time ($40). The latest version is 1.0 Beta 18. For info, download etc. go to http://www.infinitydatasystems.com/ mailforge/index.html You have to register with their Forum in order to download. Charles Moore of Applelinks, another Eudora fan, is following the development of Odysseus/MailForge, writing reviews, etc. The most recent one I could find is at http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/ comments/22088/ Wow, I had not heard of this before. Is this truly similar to the way Eudora is set up, with separate windows? Thanks so much for the info! Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MailForge Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 2:38 PM -0400 4/4/2009, diane wrote: Infinity Data Systems is developing an updated version of Eudora. Was originally called Odysseus, now MailForge. Still in beta (free), almost ready for prime time ($40). The latest version is 1.0 Beta 18. Wow, I had not heard of this before. Is this truly similar to the way Eudora is set up, with separate windows? Seems. But there are a lot of features missing. They're calling it beta, but I think it's more like pre-alpha. Feature incomplete. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I followed the google instructions for setting up the account to use imap. it wouldn't work at all. It just didn't receive any mail.-Jonas I dunno. Go back through the directions and make sure you follow the directions to the letter. For example the username you use is NOT just your gmail user name, it is your whole Gmail address. I know it works, and it works well, I get my mail from my gmail address on all three of my computers via imap. Some providers (tds.net) are switching to gmail although you can download on one computer you will not be able to see on another. setting t-bird to leave on server causes mutiple msgs. Appears to be an attempt to control band width. I think I had to check the port settings when they switched over. Are you getting the gmail through a isp? If so they may have a port to use. I am moving away from that isp mail account for the hassles involved and lack of email sharing. I have several computers 60 miles apart to check mail on and need to be able to recall a msg. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 2, 2:46 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I followed the google instructions for setting up the account to use imap. it wouldn't work at all. It just didn't receive any mail.-Jonas I set up two new Gmail accounts about a month ago. They work fine. Please tell us exactly what does not work and where. Do you have an account at the Gmail web site that you can log into, send mail from, and receive mail from your old, usual accounts in testing? Did you set up your local email client (Apple Mail, Euroda, or whatever) to function in IMAP mode with the proper incoming and outgoing server names? Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: Some providers (tds.net) are switching to gmail although you can download on one computer you will not be able to see on another. If they're switching to gmail, then you can use IMAP, and see all your mail on all your computers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I too am still using Eudora and, with the complexity of my mailbox organization and associated filters, returning to a three-pane window after reading each message would drive me crazy in short order. I am on a large number of mailing lists on different topics of interest. Each mailing list has its own mailbox and filters allocate new input messages to the appropriate mailboxes, allowing me complete control over what and how I read. Each mailbox has a time-ordered list of messages, collected by subject. I frequently keep interesting threaded discussions which do not take up much room since they are text-only. - Maretta At 5:31 AM -0700 04/02/09, Goody2 wrote: My only complaint about Mail (I am still using Eudora) is the inability to view each message in its own window without returning to the three-pane main window after each message. In Eudora, Thunderbird etc., if one opens a message in its own window, deleting it or moving to the next message will open the next message in its own window. In Mail, those actions return you to the three-pane window. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze with various applications being the active application. I go through the process of Force Quitting to get the computer back, and have now narrowed it down to Eudora, every time. Once I quit Eudora, I get control of the computer back. Of all the applications I've been running, Eudora is the only one that uses Rosetta/is not Intel. I've searched for an alternative that compares to the features I like with Eudora and nothing so far has come close. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Previously, at 5:54 pm -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden wrote: I too am still using Eudora and, with the complexity of my mailbox organization and associated filters, returning to a three-pane window after reading each message would drive me crazy in short order. I am on a large number of mailing lists on different topics of interest. Each mailing list has its own mailbox and filters allocate new input messages to the appropriate mailboxes, allowing me complete control over what and how I read. Each mailbox has a time-ordered list of messages, collected by subject. I frequently keep interesting threaded discussions which do not take up much room since they are text-only. Why can't anyone upgrade Eudora to be like Eudora? I have been using it since my Performa and I'll stop when they pry it out of my cold dead Mac! P. -- - Reaganomics proved what every farmer knows: The only thing that trickles down is fertilizer! - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 11:24 PM -0400 4/3/09, Dan posted: At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. Eudora has sounds??? Seriously, I'm not into being annoyed by applications notifying me when 'something' happens so I don't automatically download mail or have bouncing docks or noise makers. I check mail manually, and hate romantic comedies. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 11:39 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 11:24 PM -0400 4/3/09, Dan posted: At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. Eudora has sounds??? Seriously, I'm not into being annoyed by applications notifying me when 'something' happens so I don't automatically download mail or have bouncing docks or noise makers. I check mail manually, and hate romantic comedies. Eudora's alert sounds are broken in Tiger and known to cause deeper problems in Leopard. Quicktime hangs, freezes, etc. I'm not much for apps making noise either. I've got 'em all disabled, except for Adium. Gotta have the Duck. Long live the Duck! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I followed all the directions on the gmail site to set up the account via mail 3.0 using imap. I want to use the gmail account that I am using to write this email on. I have had this account for years. When I open my account through mail nothing happens. It doesn't start downloading my mail or anything even if i click get mail. It worked with pop. -Jonas On 4/3/09, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:39 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 11:24 PM -0400 4/3/09, Dan posted: At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. Eudora has sounds??? Seriously, I'm not into being annoyed by applications notifying me when 'something' happens so I don't automatically download mail or have bouncing docks or noise makers. I check mail manually, and hate romantic comedies. Eudora's alert sounds are broken in Tiger and known to cause deeper problems in Leopard. Quicktime hangs, freezes, etc. I'm not much for apps making noise either. I've got 'em all disabled, except for Adium. Gotta have the Duck. Long live the Duck! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
My only complaint about Mail (I am still using Eudora) is the inability to view each message in its own window without returning to the three-pane main window after each message. In Eudora, Thunderbird etc., if one opens a message in its own window, deleting it or moving to the next message will open the next message in its own window. In Mail, those actions return you to the three-pane window. Is there a Terminal command that can enable this feature? Herb Goodfriend On Apr 1, 2:42 pm, dorayme dora...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 7:30 am From: nestamicky For those who use mail.app do you observe it sucking up as much memory as does T-bird. No, I am using it now and it is reading 24 MB RAM ... -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:42 PM, dorayme wrote: No, I am using it now and it is reading 24 MB RAM . ... I agree with you...I'm using it now, for the first time ever on my Pismoand it's using 30 MB. The only problem I'm having now is that it has decided to put some of the group's messages in the SPAM box, and that's where I found your response. T-Bird is running and it's using 130mb. It looks like I'm done with T-Bird, at least on slower machines. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I followed the google instructions for setting up the account to use imap. it wouldn't work at all. It just didn't receive any mail.-Jonas I dunno. Go back through the directions and make sure you follow the directions to the letter. For example the username you use is NOT just your gmail user name, it is your whole Gmail address. I know it works, and it works well, I get my mail from my gmail address on all three of my computers via imap. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
George R. Hozendorf wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? -Jonas There are many advantages. My two favorite are: 1. don't have to look at all the gibberish on yahoo, gMail or HotMail 2. don't have to open a browser to review, send, delete or etc. messages; new messages are sent directly from my computer. Once you try it, you'll never go back to checking your mail through a browser. Hozey OK. Let me pitch in, please. I use T-bird on my Pismo and like Firefox is eats memory...it's always up there with it. For those who use mail.app do you observe it sucking up as much memory as does T-bird. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
How practical is Mail when I have dialup though?-Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:30 AM, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: George R. Hozendorf wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? -Jonas There are many advantages. My two favorite are: 1. don't have to look at all the gibberish on yahoo, gMail or HotMail 2. don't have to open a browser to review, send, delete or etc. messages; new messages are sent directly from my computer. Once you try it, you'll never go back to checking your mail through a browser. Hozey OK. Let me pitch in, please. I use T-bird on my Pismo and like Firefox is eats memory...it's always up there with it. For those who use mail.app do you observe it sucking up as much memory as does T-bird. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: How practical is Mail when I have dialup though? -Jonas No more or less so than all the mail clients in the entire Universe. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I have thought about setting up mail on my powerbook... Would it be practical though? because I check my e-mail on so many different computers. -Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: How practical is Mail when I have dialup though?-Jonas No more or less so than all the mail clients in the entire Universe. *Bill Connelly* *artsite:* http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio *myspace: *http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Also, can I still check my mail through the website even after I set it up with mail?-Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote: I have thought about setting up mail on my powerbook... Would it be practical though? because I check my e-mail on so many different computers. -Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: How practical is Mail when I have dialup though?-Jonas No more or less so than all the mail clients in the entire Universe. *Bill Connelly* *artsite:* http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio *myspace: *http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Yes, you can. I have web-based email through my ISP (Verizon) but I use Mail exclusively on my home computer (Beige G3 w/G4 upgrade running Tiger 10.4.11) because I prefer its organizational features. I can still check my email on the web when away. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Apr 1, 12:22 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Also, can I still check my mail through the website even after I set it up with mail?-Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.comwrote: I have thought about setting up mail on my powerbook... Would it be practical though? because I check my e-mail on so many different computers. -Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: How practical is Mail when I have dialup though?-Jonas No more or less so than all the mail clients in the entire Universe. *Bill Connelly* *artsite:*http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio *myspace: *http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I understand that imap is better than pop. how can I set up my gmail account with imap?-Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:38 AM, skyking...@verizon.net skyking...@verizon.net wrote: Yes, you can. I have web-based email through my ISP (Verizon) but I use Mail exclusively on my home computer (Beige G3 w/G4 upgrade running Tiger 10.4.11) because I prefer its organizational features. I can still check my email on the web when away. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Apr 1, 12:22 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Also, can I still check my mail through the website even after I set it up with mail?-Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I have thought about setting up mail on my powerbook... Would it be practical though? because I check my e-mail on so many different computers. -Jonas On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:18 AM, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: How practical is Mail when I have dialup though?-Jonas No more or less so than all the mail clients in the entire Universe. *Bill Connelly* *artsite:*http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio *myspace: *http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 1, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Also, can I still check my mail through the website even after I set it up with mail? -Jonas Depends on whether or not you tell 'Mail' to delete things after downloading them. ;-) Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Date: Wed, Apr 1 2009 7:30 am From: nestamicky For those who use mail.app do you observe it sucking up as much memory as does T-bird. No, I am using it now and it is reading 24 MB RAM ... -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 1, 2:58 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that imap is better than pop. how can I set up my gmail account with imap? At the Gmail web page, you get to choose between IMAP and POP. Whether that is really better for you depends on how you use your e- mail. If you use several computers for your e-mail, IMAP may be better as long as you are the only person accessing it, managing it, and deleting items. All computer clients can see see and store the same email as what is being kept forever on the web site. The web site controls the syncing of the contents downloaded to the clients. But if the web site mail server disappears, so does your email on the clients unless you archive it in some folder that the web site cannot reach. With Gmail, I decided to use POP, even with several computers in the house, because my wife and I like to retain or delete different items and keep different folders in our his and hers machines. The web site does not care what we do with our mail after it is downloaded. But only one computer is allowed to delete mail from the web site one month after that master computer downloads the mail. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 1, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I understand that imap is better than pop. how can I set up my gmail account with imap?-Jonas Gee, if there was only some way to find that information on, oh, I don't know GOOGLE??? Go to GMail's help section, it has all the info you need to set up an IMAP email client. Imap works just fine via dialup, you probably want to tweak Mail.app's default behavior in the Mailbox Behaviors section to dowwnload and save a local copy only for messages you read; set that way it's works great I used it on dial-up for years with imap accounts. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I've used Thunderbird ever since I moved from Classic and couldn't use Netscape Navigator's email anymore. I liked that I didn't have to relearn a new interface, and Mail didn't have that good a reputation back then. Now there's two things I'd need to know to switch to Apple's app: 1) Can it be configured in the familiar T-shape of Netscape Mail, Thunderbird (or, God forbid, the MS products)? 2) Is it relatively safe from criminals? It's obviously a more desirable target than a less popular product like Thunderbird, much as Camino (another of my Mozilla faves) has fewer idiots gunning for it than Safari. --Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? Surely you're joking, Mr Feynman? Mail.app is a very good mail client, one which seems to talk quite effectively to mail servers from your traditional ISPs to your not-so- traditional AOL. At one point, Claris e...@iler was the only non-AOL mail client which could interface with AOL, but Mail.app (and some incremental improvements on AOL's part) eliminated e...@iler's distinction. Plus, e...@iler is a non-supported, Classic application. I run Mail.app on my sole remaining PPC Mac, a dual 1.0 GHz Digital Audio (Quicksilver processor), but I intend to move it to one of my Intel Hacks, shortly. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage?-Jonas It's an email client, like Thunderbird, like Eudora, like Entourage, like other The point is to manage your email in a coherent fashion. They've thrown in other functionality over the years: Todo notes, integration with iCal, RSS feeds, etc, but mainly its function is to receive, read, write and send email... It's got it's pluses and minuses like other applications, but it ensures that right out of the box OS X users can get to their email if they want. I prefer it to other clients I've tried; email apps tend to be a subjectively personal choice. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:38 AM, PeterH wrote: I run Mail.app on my sole remaining PPC Mac, a dual 1.0 GHz Digital Audio (Quicksilver processor), but I intend to move it to one of my Intel Hacks, shortly. It's also an excellent IMAP client. I run it on ALL my Macs. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 11:15 AM -0700 3/31/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? It comes with OS X, so it's convenient. It has all the basic features one should need in a POP3/IMAP client, so it's useful to at least 80% of the userbase. YMMV. Real men use Eudora or Thunderbird or heh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? Exactly! What the point? What is the advantage? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_e-mail_clients --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? -Jonas There are many advantages. My two favorite are: 1. don't have to look at all the gibberish on yahoo, gMail or HotMail 2. don't have to open a browser to review, send, delete or etc. messages; new messages are sent directly from my computer. Once you try it, you'll never go back to checking your mail through a browser. Hozey --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I run Mail.app on my sole remaining PPC Mac, a dual 1.0 GHz Digital Audio (Quicksilver processor), but I intend to move it to one of my Intel Hacks, shortly. It's also an excellent IMAP client. I run it on ALL my Macs. Yes, I agree. Mail.app is but one very good reason to run MacOS X. I run Tiger 10.4.11 on my sole remaining PPC Mac, and I run Leopard 10.5.6 on all my Intel Hacks (legal retail licenses, all). Funny ... the Intel Hacks are more reliable than the PPC Mack. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:15 AM -0700 3/31/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? It comes with OS X, so it's convenient. It has all the basic features one should need in a POP3/IMAP client, so it's useful to at least 80% of the userbase. YMMV. Real men use Eudora or Thunderbird or real mean grep port 143 -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:15 AM -0700 3/31/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? It comes with OS X, so it's convenient. It has all the basic features one should need in a POP3/IMAP client, so it's useful to at least 80% of the userbase. YMMV. Real men use Eudora or Thunderbird or real mean grep port 143 That's real men grep port 25. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:15 AM -0700 3/31/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: YMMV. Real men use Eudora or Thunderbird or real mean grep port 143 That's real men grep port 25. What's the purpose of Jonas? I prefer Mail.app under Tiger 10.4.11 and Leopard 10.5.6 (a little more difficult at first for some reason). Hear them roar ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Dennis Myhand wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:15 AM -0700 3/31/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? It comes with OS X, so it's convenient. It has all the basic features one should need in a POP3/IMAP client, so it's useful to at least 80% of the userbase. YMMV. Real men use Eudora or Thunderbird or real mean grep port 143 That's real men grep port 25. Duh, because Real Men are masters of their own domain -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Real man grep a pencil. Peter M. Sent with my mobile divice -Original Message- From: Dennis Myhand dmyh...@ednaisd.org Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:14:26 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is the point of Mail.app?? Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:15 AM -0700 3/31/2009, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I have always wondered what the point of the mail app in osx? What is the advantage? It comes with OS X, so it's convenient. It has all the basic features one should need in a POP3/IMAP client, so it's useful to at least 80% of the userbase. YMMV. Real men use Eudora or Thunderbird or real mean grep port 143 That's real men grep port 25. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Perhaps it only was on the Graphite iMac? Peter M. Sent with my mobile divice -Original Message- From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:47:10 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What is the point of Mail.app?? On Mar 31, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Peter wrote: Real man grep a pencil. Peter M. Hmm...no /dev/pencil you must be running a different distro than I am :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
