Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
Did you reset the pram after swapping the video card into 66mhz slot? the G3 came without battery after more than 1 year in a cabinet and the ATI Rage 128 GL (incidentally, this is the card: I did check) was in the 66 MHz slot. There is only one strange thing: the oscillator on the card says: 29.498 MHz. How come? Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone? _ follow-up _ sorted out
On Dec 14, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: Incidentally, it is possible that on an even more vintage PowerMac 7600 (with a Sonnet 1 GHz card) the ATI Rage 128 is faster than the 3dfx voodoo 3 3000? In fact, to rule out the ATI was badm I plugged it into the 7600 and I had the feeling that the feedback from the Finder (menus, windows opening etc...) was faster than with the 3dfx. What OS? There never were (to my knowledge) official OS X drivers for the voodoo series cards. In OS 9 I found the voodoos to be some of the fastest cards. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone? _ follow-up _ sorted out
On 14-12-2008 20:47, Beniamino Cenci Goga, ben...@gmail.com, wrote: Ok, I will try to avoid this cheap and ready to use source of compressed air! Be clever and read my yesterday's answer. Incidentally, it is possible that on an even more vintage PowerMac 7600 (with a Sonnet 1 GHz card) the ATI Rage 128 is faster than the 3dfx voodoo 3 3000? In fact, to rule out the ATI was badm I plugged it into the 7600 and I had the feeling that the feedback from the Finder (menus, windows opening etc...) was faster than with the 3dfx. See my answer to Len's e-mail. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
On Dec 13, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: I recently bought off eBay a 350 MhZ rev. 2 Yosemite for parts. I repaired it (case with epoxidic glue, new PSU - a modified PC ATX, processor, etc...) just to realize that the video card only works if inserted in one of the three 33 MHz PCI slots, but not in the 66 MHz, which indeed is the specific one for the video card. Not big deal, mere speculation. Any hints? Which video card is it? According to Mactracker, for the Yosemite, I believe the slot 1, although 66MHz, is still a PCI slot versus an AGP one. Only a 66MHz PCI video card would work in that one (PCI and 66 being limiting factors)? not a 33MHz video card? Just asking / thinking out loud. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
On Dec 13, 2008, at 3:32 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Dec 13, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: I recently bought off eBay a 350 MhZ rev. 2 Yosemite for parts. I repaired it (case with epoxidic glue, new PSU - a modified PC ATX, processor, etc...) just to realize that the video card only works if inserted in one of the three 33 MHz PCI slots, but not in the 66 MHz, which indeed is the specific one for the video card. Not big deal, mere speculation. Any hints? Meant to add ... did you blow the dust out of the slot in question? I use a shop vacuum in reverse (warning) ... but most people suggest compressed air can made for the task ... That seems to help sometimes. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
Which video card is it? According to Mactracker, for the Yosemite, I believe the slot 1, although 66MHz, is still a PCI slot versus an AGP one. Only a 66MHz PCI video card would work in that one (PCI and 66 being limiting factors)? not a 33MHz video card? Just asking / thinking out loud. Bill Connelly I guess it is the card that came with the unit (I recall reading something like 128 and I quickly, probably too quickly, concluded it was the standard ATI Rage 128): will check tomorrow and let you know. The Mac is in the basement and right now I am watching a movie at home with my kids whilst trying to answer to some emails) Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
According to the service manual, the video card always goes in PCI Slot 1, which is the short slot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Paul wrote: According to the service manual, the video card always goes in PCI Slot 1, which is the short slot. this afternoon I tried a known good voodoo 3dfx 3000, same thing: no video out if inserted in slot 1, ok if in one of the other 3. If cleaning the contacts does not solve the problem, chances the slot has gone? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
On Dec 13, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Paul wrote: According to the service manual, the video card always goes in PCI Slot 1, which is the short slot. this afternoon I tried a known good voodoo 3dfx 3000, same thing: no video out if inserted in slot 1, ok if in one of the other 3. If cleaning the contacts does not solve the problem, chances the slot has gone? I might guess yes. Maybe someone else will respond with a different clue ... Hope the movie was a good one ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Yosemite video card slot _ gone?
On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:52 PM, Paul wrote: I'm sorry; I got the original question backwards. (I had thought that you wanted to use another slot besides Slot 1 for video.) I hope this answer is more relevant: according to the service manual, Slot 1 only takes 66 MHz PCI cards. So check your video card, and maybe you'll find that it's only 33 MHz. That's what I was trying to get at earlier ... As an example, I have an ATI Radeon 7000ME that will work in a 66 or 33MHz slot, like in my PowerPC 8500 (33MHz slots) and in my PCI Graphics (Yikes! ... Yosemite's 1st Cousin) ... it will work in either the 33 or 66 slots. I have it in the 66MHz one working fine. What does a 33MHz PCI card do in a 66MHz slot? Not fit? If it does, does it ruin the card? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
