Re: Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-08 Thread Martin N

Lo,

At 00:33 08/12/2011, you wrote:

If you plan to re-partition your existing hard drive, instead of
adding a second hard drive to install another version of any OS on to,
you need the Leopard 10.5 install DVD.  The Panther and Tiger install
CD/DVD's Disk Utility does not allow re-partitioning a hard drive
without reformatting, or otherwise wiping out all data on the hard
drive, but Leopard can resize partitions without destroying the data
and can preserve your existing Tiger install.



Ubuntu PPC version LiveCD also has partitioning tools that preserve data.
I used GParted to re partition my mac mini.

Martin N

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Re: Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-07 Thread David W. Morris
If you plan to re-partition your existing hard drive, instead of  
adding a second hard drive to install another version of any OS on to,  
you need the Leopard 10.5 install DVD.  The Panther and Tiger install  
CD/DVD's Disk Utility does not allow re-partitioning a hard drive  
without reformatting, or otherwise wiping out all data on the hard  
drive, but Leopard can resize partitions without destroying the data  
and can preserve your existing Tiger install.


Hope this helps,
AmigaDave

Running MorphOS2.7 on Dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac, & 1.5GHz G4 MacMini,  
MorphOS3.0 beta on 15" & 17" 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook's & MacOSX10.5.8 on  
a Dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac


On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Avid_Fan wrote:



Thanks for your suggestions. Dual booting had not occurred to me. That
would probably be best I think. Here is the scenario:

I have Tiger installed on my first HDD (60GB), This came preloaded and
I have no discs.
I now have the original G4 MDD install discs that revert me to
Panther.

Can i preserve what I have and partition and install Panther or will I
have to start from scratch and need a copy of 10.4?

Evan


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Re: Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-07 Thread Avid_Fan

Thanks for your suggestions. Dual booting had not occurred to me. That
would probably be best I think. Here is the scenario:

I have Tiger installed on my first HDD (60GB), This came preloaded and
I have no discs.
I now have the original G4 MDD install discs that revert me to
Panther.

Can i preserve what I have and partition and install Panther or will I
have to start from scratch and need a copy of 10.4?

Evan




On Dec 5, 12:41 am, "David W. Morris"  wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm running Leopard 10.5.8 on my Macs, but I also have Tiger 10.4.11
> > on another partition. When I do audio work, I use Tiger since my M-
> > Audio 2496 PCI card only seems to function up to but not including
> > Leopard.
>
> > Maybe you could do a similar thing for your Panther application? But
> > you would already need another partition for Panther ... maybe add
> > another SATA drive?
>
> My Dual 1.25GHz G4 MDD PowerMac arrived from the eBay seller with
> MacOSX10.2.1 and MacOS9.2.2 installed on the same partition, which I
> thought was strange, but it worked.  I later installed 10.5.8 on a
> separate partition and MorphOS2.7 on yet another partition.  When
> using the boot with the Option key depressed function to get to the
> boot selector screen, it would not show the MacOS9.2.2 option to boot
> from.  Only the MacOSX10.2.1, MacOSX10.5.8 and MorphOS2.7 boot
> partitions would show up.  To boot into MacOS9.2.2 I would have to
> choose it from the Startup Disk option in the System Preferences.
>
> Now I am in the process of setting up separate hard drives for each
> OS, instead of partitions on one drive.  Since MorphOS2.7 is so small
> and efficient, it will easily fit on my 6gb hard drive pulled from a
> G3 iMac and have tons of room for files and applications.  I will put
> MacOS9.2.2 on a 120gb drive and MacOSX 10.5.8 on my 160gb drive.  I
> might even set up Ubuntu PPC 10.10 on yet another hard drive, since
> the MDD G4 PowerMac easily holds 4 hard drives, but that might be just
> a waste of space and extra heat producing hardware since I hardly ever
> use Linux.

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Re: Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-04 Thread David W. Morris


On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:


I'm running Leopard 10.5.8 on my Macs, but I also have Tiger 10.4.11  
on another partition. When I do audio work, I use Tiger since my M- 
Audio 2496 PCI card only seems to function up to but not including  
Leopard.


Maybe you could do a similar thing for your Panther application? But  
you would already need another partition for Panther ... maybe add  
another SATA drive?



My Dual 1.25GHz G4 MDD PowerMac arrived from the eBay seller with  
MacOSX10.2.1 and MacOS9.2.2 installed on the same partition, which I  
thought was strange, but it worked.  I later installed 10.5.8 on a  
separate partition and MorphOS2.7 on yet another partition.  When  
using the boot with the Option key depressed function to get to the  
boot selector screen, it would not show the MacOS9.2.2 option to boot  
from.  Only the MacOSX10.2.1, MacOSX10.5.8 and MorphOS2.7 boot  
partitions would show up.  To boot into MacOS9.2.2 I would have to  
choose it from the Startup Disk option in the System Preferences.


Now I am in the process of setting up separate hard drives for each  
OS, instead of partitions on one drive.  Since MorphOS2.7 is so small  
and efficient, it will easily fit on my 6gb hard drive pulled from a  
G3 iMac and have tons of room for files and applications.  I will put  
MacOS9.2.2 on a 120gb drive and MacOSX 10.5.8 on my 160gb drive.  I  
might even set up Ubuntu PPC 10.10 on yet another hard drive, since  
the MDD G4 PowerMac easily holds 4 hard drives, but that might be just  
a waste of space and extra heat producing hardware since I hardly ever  
use Linux.


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Re: Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-04 Thread Bill Connelly


On Dec 4, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Avid_Fan wrote:


My G4 MDD came pre-loaded with 10.4 and I
had (or I have since upgraded to) a newer version of Quicktime and
thus this problem.

SoI have picked up the MDD original install discs for peanuts and
may roll back to 10.3.2 to solve the Quicktime issue.

Any major drawbacks I should be aware of in using the older OS? Looks
like my iphone and iTunes will not sync in 10.3.2. Thought about
getting an old ibook just for music and iphone etc. I've been through
the other software I use and seems to be older versions of everything
that's important.


I'm running Leopard 10.5.8 on my Macs, but I also have Tiger 10.4.11  
on another partition. When I do audio work, I use Tiger since my M- 
Audio 2496 PCI card only seems to function up to but not including  
Leopard.


Maybe you could do a similar thing for your Panther application? But  
you would already need another partition for Panther ... maybe add  
another SATA drive?


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Rolling Back to Panther OSX

2011-12-04 Thread Avid_Fan
Hi,

I'm having an issue using Final Cut Express 2 where I cannot capture
footage for more than 5 mins without the window freezing up. After
some digging it would appear to be because FCE2 needs to utilise an
older version of quicktime. My G4 MDD came pre-loaded with 10.4 and I
had (or I have since upgraded to) a newer version of Quicktime and
thus this problem.

SoI have picked up the MDD original install discs for peanuts and
may roll back to 10.3.2 to solve the Quicktime issue.

Any major drawbacks I should be aware of in using the older OS? Looks
like my iphone and iTunes will not sync in 10.3.2. Thought about
getting an old ibook just for music and iphone etc. I've been through
the other software I use and seems to be older versions of everything
that's important.

What about browsers? I started using TenFourFox so that will have to
change. Camino?

If I had the cash I would just get a G5 and FCE4 or whatever but need
to make best of what I have.

Cheers,
Evan

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