Re: Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??

2008-12-06 Thread PeterH


On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Len Gerstel wrote:

> All you need to do is bring a 12v lead from an unused HD connector to
> the 4th mounting point on the QS processor card. Here is a site that
> talks about it. You can ignore all the scary stuff about case modding
> and removing an IDE connector, that only applies to sawtooth and
> gigabit ethernet models. What you want is about 1/2 way down the page
> labeled:
>
> 12 Volt Power Connector for 4th Mount Point
>
> Here is the page:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/josephk/G4_mod.html

That's a very primitive mod ... certainly necessary, but not  
sufficient in the worst-cast scenario.

You may also want to power a fan unit, and that requires +12 volts  
and +12 volts return.

Pin 1 (+12 volts) --- 
o---> (to QS CPU)
 
  |
Pin 2 (+12 volts return)+ |

| |
Pin 3 (+5 volts return)   | |

| |
Pin 4 (+5 volts )  | |
  V
V (to fan unit)

The returns are black.

The +12 volts is yellow.

The +5 volts is red.



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Re: Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??

2008-12-06 Thread Doug Burton
No, MDD is a completely different setup.

On Dec 6, 2008, at 8:12 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:

> How do you get the quicksilvers processors to work? Will and MDD  
> processor work?
> -Jonas
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:52 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:
>
> > I just got a Digital Audio single 533MHZ powermac for $25 on
> > craigslist. I know that Apple made a dual processor version of this
> > same powermac. Can i put dual 533MHZ processors in it?
> > -Jonas
>
>
> Yes, the dual 533 card will plug straight in, along with the 667 and
> 733 single processors from other DAs. With a very easy mod you can
> also put a processor from a Quick Silver into your DA.
>
> I have used single processors from QS's into DAs with no problem.
> Meanwhile, I have had no luck with trying to get dual 1GHz processors
> working in my DA, but others on the list have had no problems.
>
> If you go the QS processor route, avoid the 733 and single 800. These
> do not have a level 3 cache and will run barely faster than your
> single 533. There was a single 867 on the swap list (either yesterday
> or today) for $30, and that would be almost as fast as a dual 533.
>
> Remember that 10.4 will run on that Mac with any processor, but to run
> 10.5 without a relatively easy software hack you need to have at least
> a 867 in it. As far as I have heard, 10.6 will be Intel Mac only, so
> don't count on there even being a decent hack to get it to work on a G
> series Mac.
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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Re: Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??

2008-12-06 Thread Len Gerstel


On Dec 6, 2008, at 8:12 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:52 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:
>
> > I just got a Digital Audio single 533MHZ powermac for $25 on
> > craigslist. I know that Apple made a dual processor version of this
> > same powermac. Can i put dual 533MHZ processors in it?
> > -Jonas
>
> With a very easy mod you can
> also put a processor from a Quick Silver into your DA.
>
> I have used single processors from QS's into DAs with no problem.
> Meanwhile, I have had no luck with trying to get dual 1GHz processors
> working in my DA, but others on the list have had no problems.
>
>
> How do you get the quicksilvers processors to work? Will and MDD  
> processor work?
> -Jonas

All you need to do is bring a 12v lead from an unused HD connector to  
the 4th mounting point on the QS processor card. Here is a site that  
talks about it. You can ignore all the scary stuff about case modding  
and removing an IDE connector, that only applies to sawtooth and  
gigabit ethernet models. What you want is about 1/2 way down the page  
labeled:

12 Volt Power Connector for 4th Mount Point

Here is the page:

http://homepage.mac.com/josephk/G4_mod.html

Sorry, MDD processors are a completely different beast and will not  
work in other models.


Len



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Re: Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??

2008-12-06 Thread jonas ulrich
How do you get the quicksilvers processors to work? Will and MDD processor
work?-Jonas

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:52 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:
>
> > I just got a Digital Audio single 533MHZ powermac for $25 on
> > craigslist. I know that Apple made a dual processor version of this
> > same powermac. Can i put dual 533MHZ processors in it?
> > -Jonas
>
>
> Yes, the dual 533 card will plug straight in, along with the 667 and
> 733 single processors from other DAs. With a very easy mod you can
> also put a processor from a Quick Silver into your DA.
>
> I have used single processors from QS's into DAs with no problem.
> Meanwhile, I have had no luck with trying to get dual 1GHz processors
> working in my DA, but others on the list have had no problems.
>
> If you go the QS processor route, avoid the 733 and single 800. These
> do not have a level 3 cache and will run barely faster than your
> single 533. There was a single 867 on the swap list (either yesterday
> or today) for $30, and that would be almost as fast as a dual 533.
>
> Remember that 10.4 will run on that Mac with any processor, but to run
> 10.5 without a relatively easy software hack you need to have at least
> a 867 in it. As far as I have heard, 10.6 will be Intel Mac only, so
> don't count on there even being a decent hack to get it to work on a G
> series Mac.
>
> Len
>
>
> >
>

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Re: Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??

2008-12-06 Thread Len Gerstel


On Dec 6, 2008, at 7:52 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:

> I just got a Digital Audio single 533MHZ powermac for $25 on  
> craigslist. I know that Apple made a dual processor version of this  
> same powermac. Can i put dual 533MHZ processors in it?
> -Jonas


Yes, the dual 533 card will plug straight in, along with the 667 and  
733 single processors from other DAs. With a very easy mod you can  
also put a processor from a Quick Silver into your DA.

I have used single processors from QS's into DAs with no problem.  
Meanwhile, I have had no luck with trying to get dual 1GHz processors  
working in my DA, but others on the list have had no problems.

If you go the QS processor route, avoid the 733 and single 800. These  
do not have a level 3 cache and will run barely faster than your  
single 533. There was a single 867 on the swap list (either yesterday  
or today) for $30, and that would be almost as fast as a dual 533.

Remember that 10.4 will run on that Mac with any processor, but to run  
10.5 without a relatively easy software hack you need to have at least  
a 867 in it. As far as I have heard, 10.6 will be Intel Mac only, so  
don't count on there even being a decent hack to get it to work on a G  
series Mac.

Len


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Single 533MHZ processor upgrade to dual??

2008-12-06 Thread jonas ulrich
I just got a Digital Audio single 533MHZ powermac for $25 on craigslist. I
know that Apple made a dual processor version of this same powermac. Can i
put dual 533MHZ processors in it?-Jonas

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