Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Len Gerstel


On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Simon Royal wrote:



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 Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
 From: Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 09/10/2008 14:15



 On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Hi.

 I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac
 G4 Sawtooth.

 I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read
 that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it.

 The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small
 text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of
 my iMac G3 screen.

 Any ideas?

 Simon

 A couple of questions on the specs of your monitor:

 What is the native resolution of the monitor?

 What resolution do you have set in display preferences?

 What is the pixel pitch (or dpi) of the monitor?


 Native res is 1024x768 and it is set to that.

 I do not know what the DPI is, how would I find this?

 Simon

DPI would be in the spec sheet for the monitor, you may need to hit  
the manufacturers site for the info.

What is the make and model? If this is a entry level and/or off brand  
monitor, it may be the best it is going to get. Did you test it out  
with text and graphics before you bought it? With the vga connection  
and not digital?

Len


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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal

Len

It was given to me, but had been working on a Cube and PC with no probs before 
I got it.

Simon

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Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
From: Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 09/10/2008 14:42



On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Simon Royal wrote:



 -original message-
 Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
 From: Len Gerstel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 09/10/2008 14:15



 On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Hi.

 I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac
 G4 Sawtooth.

 I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read
 that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it.

 The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small
 text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of
 my iMac G3 screen.

 Any ideas?

 Simon

 A couple of questions on the specs of your monitor:

 What is the native resolution of the monitor?

 What resolution do you have set in display preferences?

 What is the pixel pitch (or dpi) of the monitor?


 Native res is 1024x768 and it is set to that.

 I do not know what the DPI is, how would I find this?

 Simon

DPI would be in the spec sheet for the monitor, you may need to hit  
the manufacturers site for the info.

What is the make and model? If this is a entry level and/or off brand  
monitor, it may be the best it is going to get. Did you test it out  
with text and graphics before you bought it? With the vga connection  
and not digital?

Len






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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Hi.

 I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac  
 G4 Sawtooth.

 I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read  
 that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it.

 The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small  
 text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of my  
 iMac G3 screen.

The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated

DING DING DING. We have a winnah!

Go into the monitors control pane and check the text smoothing  
setting. It's probably set for something other than what you want.

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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal

Bruce.

I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference.

The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text.

Simon

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Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 09/10/2008 16:27



On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Hi.

 I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac  
 G4 Sawtooth.

 I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read  
 that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it.

 The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small  
 text is hard to read especially compared to the mega crispness of my  
 iMac G3 screen.

The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated

DING DING DING. We have a winnah!

Go into the monitors control pane and check the text smoothing  
setting. It's probably set for something other than what you want.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs







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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Bruce.

 I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference.

 The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text.


Crap, another wonderful theory killed by those damn facts. :-)

Have you tried different refresh frequencies? Messed with any monitor  
settings on the monitor itself?

Have you tested another monitor on that computer? (I'm sort of lost on  
the whole sequence so far, I remember the monitor is fine on another  
computer...it's remotely possible there's an issue with your video card)

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University of Arizona
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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal

Bruce

The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a G4 Cube 
and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing.

I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 which I 
am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on there.

If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One thing I 
did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it has a 
PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a BW G3 or Yikes 
G4).

Simon


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On Oct 9 2008, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Bruce.

 I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference.

 The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text.


Crap, another wonderful theory killed by those damn facts. :-)

Have you tried different refresh frequencies? Messed with any monitor  
settings on the monitor itself?

Have you tested another monitor on that computer? (I'm sort of lost on  
the whole sequence so far, I remember the monitor is fine on another  
computer...it's remotely possible there's an issue with your video card)




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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Bruce

 The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a  
 G4 Cube
 and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing.


Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to  
it?  I remember when I finally replaced my old 17 monitor with a new  
one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was  
just fine the day before...

 I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3  
 which I
 am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on  
 there.

 If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One  
 thing I
 did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it  
 has a
 PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a BW G3 or  
 Yikes
 G4).

That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video  
performance.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Doug Burton

I'm getting in on this rather late, but were you by chance using  
Flurry as your screen saver?  The reason I ask is because I had a  
similar problem using a cheap LCD.  I left it on with Flurry as the  
screen saver and started noticing the fuzzy looking image on the  
screen that you describe.  More noticeable in the screen text, but  
generally a fuzzy image.  I stopped using Flurry on that monitor and  
it cleared up.  Just a thought.

Just a message from Doug...

On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



 On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Bruce

 The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a
 G4 Cube
 and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing.


 Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to
 it?  I remember when I finally replaced my old 17 monitor with a new
 one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was
 just fine the day before...

 I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3
 which I
 am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on
 there.

 If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One
 thing I
 did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it
 has a
 PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a BW G3 or
 Yikes
 G4).

 That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video
 performance.

 -- 
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



 


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Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal

Doug

I was using Flurry. But the problem started as soon as I hooked up the 
monitor. I will try using a different screen saver or not one at all.

Anything is worth a try.

Simon

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On Oct 9 2008, Doug Burton wrote:


I'm getting in on this rather late, but were you by chance using  
Flurry as your screen saver?  The reason I ask is because I had a  
similar problem using a cheap LCD.  I left it on with Flurry as the  
screen saver and started noticing the fuzzy looking image on the  
screen that you describe.  More noticeable in the screen text, but  
generally a fuzzy image.  I stopped using Flurry on that monitor and  
it cleared up.  Just a thought.

Just a message from Doug...

On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



 On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote:


 Bruce

 The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a
 G4 Cube
 and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing.


 Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to
 it?  I remember when I finally replaced my old 17 monitor with a new
 one how incredibly fuzzy and dim it was, though I'd have said it was
 just fine the day before...

 I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3
 which I
 am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on
 there.

 If it is, then the video card in my PowerMac is the problem. One
 thing I
 did notice is, my PowerMac G4 is a Sawtooth with AGP graphics but it
 has a
 PCI ATI Rage 128 installed (which looks like it is from a BW G3 or
 Yikes
 G4).

 That shouldn't make it fuzzy, merely less than optimal video
 performance.

 -- 
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



 






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