Re: Time Machine Failing
At 3:12 PM -0500 1/11/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: I booted from OS X DVD and tried to repair all the volumes. After the computer ran awhile, I got this message-Volume Time Machine backup could not be repaired. error-File system repair failed. Ok, good - in that we now know the problem is definitely the destination, not your source. It will be interesting to see TM continues to work now, after n days. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: Time Machine Failing
Honestly - TM is simply not reliable. You'd be better off if you used CCC or SuperDuper. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth You were right. I wiped out the Time Machine backup volume and restarted it. Sure enough, I got the same failure note. I certainly would like to know what is causing this problem, but I haven't been able to find the log that would help. In the meantime, I'm using Super Duper as you recommended. Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
Without knowing exactly what error it ran into originally... the only choice left is to wipe out the backup and restart it. Chances are pretty good in n days it will slam into the same problemo tho. Honestly - TM is simply not reliable. You'd be better off if you used CCC or SuperDuper. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I'm getting ready to wrap up my investigation concerning my Tine Machine problem. I have one last question. If I reinstall OS 10.5 would that resolve my problem? Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 10, 2009, at 10:42 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: Without knowing exactly what error it ran into originally... the only choice left is to wipe out the backup and restart it. Chances are pretty good in n days it will slam into the same problemo tho. Honestly - TM is simply not reliable. You'd be better off if you used CCC or SuperDuper. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I'm getting ready to wrap up my investigation concerning my Tine Machine problem. I have one last question. If I reinstall OS 10.5 would that resolve my problem? Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net If the problem is caused by failing sectors on the HD, then the only thing that MIGHT help, is to 'Zero' all data. Erase option in Disk Utility. The 'Erase operation allows the HD firmware to map out sectors that are starting to fail. This MAY solve the problem, unless the 'failing' areas are growing in size (a likely thing to happen). Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
At 10:42 PM -0500 1/10/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: If I reinstall OS 10.5 would that resolve my problem? I doubt reinstalling OS X will help wrt Time Machine. At this time, TM is, IMO, a cute thing to play with, but that's all. Um... When you get a chance, please boot from your OS X DVD and do a repair disk on all your volumes. Let's make sure your internal (especially) is clean. (We still don't know exactly *why* TM is punting - it could be because it's falling into a hold on the source). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
All logs are available thru the Console app, /Applications/Utilities/Console.app ...Select Show Log List from Console's View menu. As you can see there are a lot of logs! system.log contains system-wide events - things like the Time Machine failures. console.log contains your user events. Everything there is r/o (read-only), so peruse at will - you cannot hurt anything. If the log listed won't open then you'll need to run console from an admin account. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ When I proceed from Applications through Utilities I find nothing called Console.app. I'm obviously missing something. Wilton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
At 3:49 PM -0500 1/8/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: All logs are available thru the Console app, /Applications/Utilities/Console.app When I proceed from Applications through Utilities I find nothing called Console.app. I'm obviously missing something. Have you been deleting things from the system areas? The Utilities folder lives IN the Applications folder. You can open it directly via the Finder's GO menu. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:49 PM -0500 1/8/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: All logs are available thru the Console app, /Applications/Utilities/Console.app When I proceed from Applications through Utilities I find nothing called Console.app. I'm obviously missing something. Have you been deleting things from the system areas? Not that I know of. The Utilities folder lives IN the Applications folder. You can open it directly via the Finder's GO menu. - Dan. -- I can open the Utilities folder. I just don't find anything called Console.app. Wilton - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:49 PM -0500 1/8/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: All logs are available thru the Console app, /Applications/Utilities/Console.app When I proceed from Applications through Utilities I find nothing called Console.app. I'm obviously missing something. Have you been deleting things from the system areas? Not that I know of. The Utilities folder lives IN the Applications folder. You can open it directly via the Finder's GO menu. - Dan. -- I can open the Utilities folder. I just don't find anything called Console.app. The Console.app is within the 'Utilities' directory (folder). Unless someone has been deleting things. (Always a possibility.) Chuck D. Wilton - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
This happens on my Vista PC when I do'nt have a restore point set in backup, or if I have a different drive designated for back up than the original. I believe Macs' are automatic so perhaps the problem lies in what drive you have designated for your backup. On Jan 8, 7:19 pm, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 8, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:49 PM -0500 1/8/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: All logs are available thru the Console app, /Applications/Utilities/Console.app When I proceed from Applications through Utilities I find nothing called Console.app. I'm obviously missing something. Have you been deleting things from the system areas? Not that I know of. The Utilities folder lives IN the Applications folder. You can open it directly via the Finder's GO menu. - Dan. -- I can open the Utilities folder. I just don't find anything called Console.app. The Console.app is within the 'Utilities' directory (folder). Unless someone has been deleting things. (Always a possibility.) Chuck D. Wilton - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Time Machine Failing
Hello, Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Check your system log. It will contain the details. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
Wilton Shaw wrote: Hello, Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net mailto:whs...@verizon.net And while you're in there, you may also find out why it failed. Or, post the output here. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Check your system log. It will contain the details. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System Log. Where is it? Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Check your system log. It will contain the details. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System Log. Where is it? In Tiger 10.4.11: Apple About This Mac More Info Logs system.log Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM, insightinmind wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System Log. Where is it? In Tiger 10.4.11: Apple About This Mac More Info Software Logs system.log Slight correction (adding Software in the sequence, in case its not triggered/drilldown open in your System Profiler Report) Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
At 4:57 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:24 PM -0500 1/7/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: Yesterday today whenever I go to my computer, I have a note on the screen saying my latest backup had failed. I don't know when the latest backup was successful and I don't know why it won't work properly. I have an eMac, using OS 10.5.6. Check your system log. It will contain the details. Pardon my ignorance, but I can't find anything called System Log. Where is it? All logs are available thru the Console app, /Applications/Utilities/Console.app ...Select Show Log List from Console's View menu. As you can see there are a lot of logs! system.log contains system-wide events - things like the Time Machine failures. console.log contains your user events. Everything there is r/o (read-only), so peruse at will - you cannot hurt anything. If the log listed won't open then you'll need to run console from an admin account. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
