Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

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http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1496149

On Nov 27, 11:37 am, Bill Connelly  wrote:
> So if someone would make a version which reports itself as
> 11.5.502.110 (current Mac version of Adobe Flash), I may be ok?
>
> How is that done again? Some type of text editing program and the
> Flash Player.plugin file?
>
> I would be willing to try.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Cameron Kaiser]

> I am using the latest version of TenFourFox (just updated 
> yesterday..) on my Dual Processor DA running 10.4.11 and since 
> installing the Flash Hack that we have been discussing, Pandora is 
> playing on my system.

I should make a polite reminder: because Mozilla has removed Carbon and
QuickDraw API support from plugins in Firefox 18+, TenFourFox 19 and any
subsequent versions will no longer be able to run Flash even if you have
it enabled through the undocumented about:config switch. The 17.x series
will be the last ones that can even *run* plugins, even in their
unsupported state.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Bill Connelly]

So if someone would make a version which reports itself as  
11.5.502.110 (current Mac version of Adobe Flash), I may be ok?


How is that done again? Some type of text editing program and the  
Flash Player.plugin file?


I would be willing to try.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Lawrence David Eden]

I am using the latest version of TenFourFox (just updated 
yesterday..) on my Dual Processor DA running 10.4.11 and since 
installing the Flash Hack that we have been discussing, Pandora is 
playing on my system.



Larry





...It does not work with Ten for Fox but that is not a problem. 
I like some background music when working so I just crank up Safari 
and Pandora for music and use Ten for Fox for the important stuff. 
--glen


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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Another way corporatism divides society. As though FB and Google are not
doing enough to separate
the patricians  from the plebs.



On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> On Nov 23, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>
>  our time is better spent looking for Flash-free alternatives
>>
>
> True that.
>
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Kris Tilford]

On Nov 23, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:


our time is better spent looking for Flash-free alternatives


True that.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Cameron Kaiser]

> I finally created a newer version of Flash Player that works and  
> identifies itself as 11.5.502.11 in About Flash. It plays with most  
> sites, but still won't play with the BBC site. I simply switched all  
> the references from 11.1.102.55 to 11.5.502.11 and repaired  
> permissions. I think as Bruce has said, if the site requires features  
> that aren't present in the older Flash it simply won't work. I'm  
> uncertain if there is any advantage to a newer fake version?

Let's put it another way: there would be no additional *dis*advantage. It's
no more insecure than what it already is, and if it lets certain sites work,
then it's a bonus. But I think our time is better spent looking for Flash-free
alternatives, much as the non-x86 Linux community has done.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[glen]

>> > Try this: 
>> >
>> > It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version.
>> > It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't  
>> > work with every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it  
>> > does with most.
>> 
>> What is the source (site) for this? I believe I have seen it before ...
>
>It's "been around." It's a Flash 10.1 with a hacked version number, which
>does seem sufficient for many sites, but it still suffers from the bugs and
>security issues of that version.
>
>Flash needs to die.


Agreed,

Missing iTunes radio on 10.4.11 and PCI Macs when Apple dropped support, I 
tried Pandora as a substitute. No go because of the unsupported Flash version 
in 10.4.11 --until today-- with the above hack and Safari 4.1.3.Pandora works.


It does not work with Ten for Fox but that is not a problem. I like some 
background music when working so I just crank up Safari and Pandora for music 
and use Ten for Fox for the important stuff. --glen

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Kris Tilford]

I finally created a newer version of Flash Player that works and  
identifies itself as 11.5.502.11 in About Flash. It plays with most  
sites, but still won't play with the BBC site. I simply switched all  
the references from 11.1.102.55 to 11.5.502.11 and repaired  
permissions. I think as Bruce has said, if the site requires features  
that aren't present in the older Flash it simply won't work. I'm  
uncertain if there is any advantage to a newer fake version?


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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Kris Tilford]

On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

If you command-click on the flash plugin and select Show Package  
Contents, and go into the Contents folder  you'll see two files,  
version.plist and info.plist. You need those to be altered to show  
correct 11.5 version numbers; This is from the version plist file:


	Adobe Flash Player   11.4 r402 Copyright (c) 1996 Adobe  
Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved


CFBundleShortVersionString
11.4.402.287
CFBundleSignature
MOSS
CFBundleVersion
11.4.402.287

Etc. You need to replace this with a valid version number for 11.5,  
whouch would entail looking at the corresponding files in a real  
11.5 plugin.


They're just text files, and can be edited in any text editor. If  
you have the developer tools installed you can use the plist editor,  
as well.


I'm using the hacked version which is the final PPC version that was  
advanced to an artificial version 11.1.102.55.


I tried changing just the version.plist & info.plist to 11.5.502.124  
and this didn't work, it still identified in Adobe's "About Flash" as  
11.1.102.55, and wouldn't work with sites that require 11.5. Then I  
dug deeper, and there were further .plist files buried in there that I  
also changed. These deeper .plist changes resulted in the plugin  
identifying in OS X at 11.5.502.124 but not in "About Flash" or any  
11.5-only websites.


So I dug deeper, using HexEdit to open all the files and search for  
"55" the final two digits of the hacked version #. Since the real  
version wasn't this hacked version, I figured any reference to the  
hacked "11.1.102.55" would also need to be changed. There were many  
"11.1.102.55" references within several files. All were changed, and  
the result was that "About Flash" showed "nothing" and no video would  
play at all. I suspect the problem may have been the "124" of my new  
version is three digits long compared to the "55" of the other  
version? There doesn't appear to be any checksum within the flash  
plugin, so I'm thinking I'll try again and see if I can get something  
working with an 11.5 version #.


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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Apple Employees went off and  built Killer Apps for Macs.

One might even say Adobe Apps sold more Macs than any WORD for Mac ever
could

Steve never forgave them.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-09/tech/tech_mobile_flash-steve-jobs_1_html5-battery-hog-photoshop?_s=PM:TECH

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/14/adobe/

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Bruce Johnson <
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:

>
> On Nov 22, 2012, at 2:32 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> > Say what you will I believe some others here agree. It does not take
> that much to play flash files. Why does it have to be such a struggle?
> >
> > Why bring Adobe into it ?
>
>
> Gee, I don't know why I dragged Adobe into it...
>
> "Adobe Flash Player   11.4 r402 Copyright (c) 1996 Adobe Systems
> Incorporated. All rights reserved"
>
> Look, it's Adobe's decision not to support PPC and older OS'es, not Apple.
>
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 22, 2012, at 2:32 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> Say what you will I believe some others here agree. It does not take that 
> much to play flash files. Why does it have to be such a struggle? 
> 
> Why bring Adobe into it ?


Gee, I don't know why I dragged Adobe into it...

"Adobe Flash Player   11.4 r402 Copyright (c) 1996 Adobe Systems Incorporated. 
All rights reserved"

Look, it's Adobe's decision not to support PPC and older OS'es, not Apple.


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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Apple slags itself  every time it makes decisions  that effect users of
expensive and powerful machines that are not really that old.

Say what you will I believe some others here agree. It does not take that
much to play flash files. Why does it have to be such a struggle?

Why bring Adobe into it ? What next, question ever other web accepted file
protocol Apple does not wish to support for old machines. That will be a
growing list daily don't you think ? A strange attitude for  anyone who
supported Motorola machines for so far back. Keeping old Macs as viable as
possible is what this list is all about.

Since when is telling it like it is verboten here ? Apple supports Windows
users and caters to their needs better than their own customers of long
standing. Some will agree. Other not agree. Simple.

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Bruce Johnson <
john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:

>
> On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:51 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> > Emulate Windows !
> >
> > Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters
> to the antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.
>
> Wow, I must have missed it when Apple bought Adobe.
>
> This is the most absurd stretch to slag Apple I've seen in a long, long
> time.
>
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:51 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

> Emulate Windows !
> 
> Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters to the 
> antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.

Wow, I must have missed it when Apple bought Adobe.

This is the most absurd stretch to slag Apple I've seen in a long, long time.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 21, 2012, at 5:18 PM, glen wrote:

> 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: Bill Connelly 
>> 
>> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this 
>> version's Get Info is 11.1
>> 
> If Flash can be hacked to spoof 11.1 there should be a way to spoof 
> 11.5. Still may not work but worth a try, maybe?
> Anyone know the details
> of the hack? --glen

If you command-click on the flash plugin and select Show Package Contents, and 
go into the Contents folder  you'll see two files, version.plist and 
info.plist. You need those to be altered to show correct 11.5 version numbers; 
This is from the version plist file:

Adobe Flash Player   11.4 r402 Copyright (c) 1996 Adobe Systems 
Incorporated. All rights reserved

CFBundleShortVersionString
11.4.402.287
CFBundleSignature
MOSS
CFBundleVersion
11.4.402.287

Etc. You need to replace this with a valid version number for 11.5, whouch 
would entail looking at the corresponding files in a real 11.5 plugin.

They're just text files, and can be edited in any text editor. If you have the 
developer tools installed you can use the plist editor, as well.


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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[glen]

- Original Message -
> From: Bill Connelly 
> 
> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this 
> version's Get Info is 11.1
> 
If Flash can be hacked to spoof 11.1 there should be a way to spoof 
11.5. Still may not work but worth a try, maybe?
Anyone know the details
 of the hack? --glen

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Windows will run flash just fine.


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:51 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio
wrote:

> Emulate Windows !
>
> Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters to
> the antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.
>
> Brilliant marketing ploy !
>
> If you ain't got the dough Apple does not want you using their machines.
> Even the ones you bought and paid for.
> the best is only for those who can ante up.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:
>
>> **
>> On 11/21/12, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>>
>> Look in CNET downloads Mac section for a solution.]
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Bill Connelly <
>> billycarmac...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this
>> version's Get Info is 11.1
>>
>>
>> The "hack floating around the Net that tricks your Flash 10 plugin into
>> reporting it is Flash 11." I'm using it on my MDDs w/ 10.5.8.
>>
>>  Read about it here:
>>   
>>
>> Down load it here:
>>   
>>
>> **
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>> T.T.
>>
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Emulate Windows !

Apple in it's wisdom alienates its most loyal core of users and caters to
the antithesis of Apple fandom. All in one fell swoop.

Brilliant marketing ploy !

If you ain't got the dough Apple does not want you using their machines.
Even the ones you bought and paid for.
the best is only for those who can ante up.



On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:

> **
> On 11/21/12, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> Look in CNET downloads Mac section for a solution.]
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Bill Connelly <
> billycarmac...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this
> version's Get Info is 11.1
>
>
> The "hack floating around the Net that tricks your Flash 10 plugin into
> reporting it is Flash 11." I'm using it on my MDDs w/ 10.5.8.
>
>  Read about it here:
>   
>
> Down load it here:
>   
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[W.Adrian D'Alessio]

Look in CNET downloads Mac section for a solution.]


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Bill Connelly
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> Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this
> version's Get Info is 11.1
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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Bill Connelly]

Doesnt seem to work ... This site is asking for 11.5, and I see this  
version's Get Info is 11.1


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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Lawrence David Eden]

This hack worked for me.  I wanted to be able to listen to Pandora 
internet radiobefore installing the hack on my DA G4 running 
10.4.11, Pandora showed me the doorafter the hack, they were much 
more cooperative.



Larry






 > Try this: 
 >
 > It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version.
 > It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't
 > work with every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it
 > does with most.

 What is the source (site) for this? I believe I have seen it before ...


It's "been around." It's a Flash 10.1 with a hacked version number, which
does seem sufficient for many sites, but it still suffers from the bugs and
security issues of that version.

Flash needs to die.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Cameron Kaiser]

> > Try this: 
> >
> > It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version.
> > It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't  
> > work with every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it  
> > does with most.
> 
> What is the source (site) for this? I believe I have seen it before ...

It's "been around." It's a Flash 10.1 with a hacked version number, which
does seem sufficient for many sites, but it still suffers from the bugs and
security issues of that version.

Flash needs to die.

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Bill Connelly]

On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Andy wrote:


Try this: 

It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version.
It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't  
work with every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it  
does with most.


What is the source (site) for this? I believe I have seen it before ...

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[Andy]

On 21 Nov 2012, at 11:54, billycarmacs  wrote:

A site tells me I need to upgrade to Flash 11.5 to view their material  and 
since I have 10.5.8 on a PowerPC Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz ... no joy.

What is the solution?

I searched the G3-G5 group and see the trails of Flash dismay ...

Try this: 

It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version.
It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't work with 
every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it does with most.

Andy

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UhOh ... Flash 11.5 "Only"

[billycarmacs]

A site tells me I need to upgrade to Flash 11.5 to view their material  
and since I have 10.5.8 on a PowerPC Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz ... no joy.

What is the solution?

I searched the G3-G5 group and see the trails of Flash dismay ...

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