Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
SUCCESS! The TRENDnet was/is plug and play! Many, Many thanks. Happily reporting to you from the ol Sawtooth, Sam On Jul 13, 10:18 pm, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: I did some diggin around today and after reading tons of posts, decided on the TRENDnet Gigabit PCI adapter. It supposedly works seemlessly with the sawtooth on 10.4.11. I figure if it doesn't I'll only be out $14.69(new in box-that included shipping). I'm wondering what NCI stands for? Thank you to everyone who has chimed in here to assist me. I really appreciate all of your input! Sam On Jul 12, 11:46 pm, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:18 PM, sam wrote: I did some diggin around today and after reading tons of posts, decided on the TRENDnet Gigabit PCI adapter. It supposedly works seemlessly with the sawtooth on 10.4.11. I figure if it doesn't I'll only be out $14.69(new in box-that included shipping). That's a good one. I'm wondering what NCI stands for? NIC == Network Interface Card. A good source for all knowledge acronymial is this : http://www.acronymfinder.com/, although it can be overwhelming, there are 68 definitions for NIC, although it's a pretty good bet that in this forum we're not talking about Nicaraugua, New In Chess or Nursing Interventions Classification. :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI On 7/12/09, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Thank you - I will do that. I had no idea that they were in existence. I'm a bit green when it comes to the mechanics of the HD. On Jul 13, 12:57 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: What ever you do, DON'T GET A USB ETHERNET CARD. it will be very very slow. also it is much cheaper to get a pci ethernet card. you can probably just search pci ethernet card on ebay. I know someone who just installed one and it works great. -Jonas On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:46 PM, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Thank you. This will install in one of the open slots? Sam On Jul 13, 2:28 am, Wayne Garrett groge...@gmail.com wrote: Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI On 7/12/09, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Don't want to alarm you, but I had a similar experience with lightening that knocked out my ethernet port in my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz (and a Nikon 5000Ed scanner ...) over the ethernet network at home ... It also messed up the PCI slots and/or USB channel. Didn't show up right away. Have you run Apple Hardware Test to see if other things appear OK? I used a Rosewill 10/100/1000 in my PCI slot successfully, but , eventually replaced the mobo. I think this is the one: http://www.rosewill.com/products/989/productDetail.htm It might be more advisable to replace the mobo, getting a new ethernet port, if you can find one for $40-50. My QS 2002 was $45. I also used an Airlink 101 USB 2 wireless for awhile ... 54Mbs over USB 2. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Should work. My old B+W G3 worked with a PCI NIC installed with no drivers. On 7/13/09, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Thank you. This will install in one of the open slots? Sam On Jul 13, 2:28 am, Wayne Garrett groge...@gmail.com wrote: Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI On 7/12/09, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam -- Sent from my mobile device -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please tell me where I can find this? ...now that I am alarmed! I'm hoping to get another year out of this machine for as little as possible before I make the move to the new intel proc. Thanks, Sam On Jul 13, 11:58 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Don't want to alarm you, but I had a similar experience with lightening that knocked out my ethernet port in my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz (and a Nikon 5000Ed scanner ...) over the ethernet network at home ... It also messed up the PCI slots and/or USB channel. Didn't show up right away. Have you run Apple Hardware Test to see if other things appear OK? I used a Rosewill 10/100/1000 in my PCI slot successfully, but , eventually replaced the mobo. I think this is the one:http://www.rosewill.com/products/989/productDetail.htm It might be more advisable to replace the mobo, getting a new ethernet port, if you can find one for $40-50. My QS 2002 was $45. I also used an Airlink 101 USB 2 wireless for awhile ... 54Mbs over USB 2. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
sam wrote: Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please tell me where I can find this? ...now that I am alarmed! I'm hoping to get another year out of this machine for as little as possible before I make the move to the new intel proc. Thanks, Sam On Jul 13, 11:58 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: Don't want to alarm you, but I had a similar experience with lightening that knocked out my ethernet port in my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz (and a Nikon 5000Ed scanner ...) over the ethernet network at home ... It also messed up the PCI slots and/or USB channel. Didn't show up right away. Have you run Apple Hardware Test to see if other things appear OK? I used a Rosewill 10/100/1000 in my PCI slot successfully, but , eventually replaced the mobo. I think this is the one:http://www.rosewill.com/products/989/productDetail.htm It might be more advisable to replace the mobo, getting a new ethernet port, if you can find one for $40-50. My QS 2002 was $45. I also used an Airlink 101 USB 2 wireless for awhile ... 54Mbs over USB 2. Sam, apple Hardware tests are actually CDs that you run on the machine to test its part. I think you can find them on Apple's site, I'm not sure though. Each CD is used for the type of machine you want to run it on. There are some folks here who have tons of these CDs. They've basically collected them over the years as Apple released machines. Goodluck getting them to share. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:06 PM, nestami...@gmail.com wrote: sam wrote: Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please tell me where I can find this? Sam, apple Hardware tests are actually CDs that you run on the machine to test its part. I think you can find them on Apple's site, I'm not sure though. Each CD is used for the type of machine you want to run it on. There are some folks here who have tons of these CDs. They've basically collected them over the years as Apple released machines. Goodluck getting them to share. Well my immediate knowledge was limited, and according to MacTracker: http://www.mactracker.ca/ There was no AHT app for the Sawtooth. It started with the next level G4. Apologies, bad assumption on my part. I would just test things with a new NIC PCI card and see if things appear to be functioning. May be OK. Good luck. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: What ever you do, DON'T GET A USB ETHERNET CARD. it will be very very slow. also it is much cheaper to get a pci ethernet card. you can probably just search pci ethernet card on ebay. I know someone who just installed one and it works great. If you have a USB 2.0 PCI card then USB isn't so slow. You can get drivers for common USB ethernet adapters here, as well as see graphs of the speeds you should expect: http://www.sustworks.com/site/news_usb_ethernet.html If you use much USB, getting a USB 2.0 card is probably a good idea. Jonas is correct, a PCI ethernet card is a better solution, but if you already have USB 2.0 or need it, and have access to a USB ethernet adapter it can work reasonably well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
No problem. Thanks, Sam On Jul 13, 3:14 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jul 13, 2009, at 3:06 PM, nestami...@gmail.com wrote: sam wrote: Apple Hardware Test? I am not familiar with this. Could you please tell me where I can find this? Sam, apple Hardware tests are actually CDs that you run on the machine to test its part. I think you can find them on Apple's site, I'm not sure though. Each CD is used for the type of machine you want to run it on. There are some folks here who have tons of these CDs. They've basically collected them over the years as Apple released machines. Goodluck getting them to share. Well my immediate knowledge was limited, and according to MacTracker:http://www.mactracker.ca/ There was no AHT app for the Sawtooth. It started with the next level G4. Apologies, bad assumption on my part. I would just test things with a new NIC PCI card and see if things appear to be functioning. May be OK. Good luck. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Can you tell me what NIC stands for? On Jul 13, 1:05 pm, Wayne Garrett groge...@gmail.com wrote: Should work. My old B+W G3 worked with a PCI NIC installed with no drivers. On 7/13/09, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Thank you. This will install in one of the open slots? Sam On Jul 13, 2:28 am, Wayne Garrett groge...@gmail.com wrote: Get a cheap Realtek NIC. PCI On 7/12/09, sam adopt...@nycap.rr.com wrote: G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam -- Sent from my mobile device -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 19:11 -0700, sam wrote: Can you tell me what NIC stands for? Network Interface Card --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
Yup. that makes sense! Thanks Ralph. Sam On Jul 13, 10:20 pm, Ralph Green sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 19:11 -0700, sam wrote: Can you tell me what NIC stands for? Network Interface Card --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ethernet port gone bad - need advise on adapter, etc. Please.
G4 Sawtooth - 400, OS 10.4.8 We had a massive lightning storm last night and after reading a bunch of post and trying out 3 different cables I've come to the conclusion that I zapped my ethernet port. I'm a little miffed about this as I DID spend the money on good surge protectors. On the other hand I'm thankful that everything else seems to be working fine. (and I have a PB with which I can still access the net) I opened up the machine and saw that the ethernet port is built right into the board so this is not a quick fix situation. Nor a cheap fix. I've decided to try the apple USB ethernet adapter. But from what I understand it will only work on OS 10.5.2. How can I upgrade without the internet connection? And can my Sawtooth handle 10.5.2? Is there some way to connect my old G4 titanium PB (10.4.11/500) to the sawtooth and transfer the files? Any help or advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks much, Sam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
