Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
On Mar 22, 2009, at 4:10 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: == 2 of 8 == Date: Sat, Mar 21 2009 7:33 am From: Dan At 8:00 AM -0700 3/21/2009, nestamicky wrote: So Dan...what is it going to take to get you to list YOUR apps here...as I've been trying to do? huh? It's a thread about fans that has skewed off into HD functions... What's that got to do with apps? If you want to do a thread about fav apps, then you should start a new thread with an appropriate subject. That way it's easily found when one searches. Yea-r-r! This is bugging me too. Now the thread has gone off to a third or fourth subject about Leopard running on G4s. I care nothing about G5 fans, but I peeked in when someone changed the subject line looking for Dan, accidently finding the two items about CCC. Anyway, thanks Dan for your CCC response. Folks, please take a few extra seconds to start a new subject when appropriate. You can always quote text from an older thread. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
Dan wrote: At 4:48 AM -0700 3/20/2009, artemis wrote: What I'm concerned about is this: When Mike Bombich says that CCC erases the target drive in order to do its thing, does he mean it erases the ENTIRE drive? Or will it safely clone to the vacant partition leaving the files on the other two partitions intact? For your purposes, you do NOT want to do a block-level clone. A block-level clone is an *exact* copy of your original - including any file system holes and bad blocks. Instead, you need to do a file-level backup - which CCC calls an Incremental. Prepare your volumes in advance then do the incremental then CCC will populate the volume, building a new clean file system as it goes. Also, considering CCC is installed in the Apps folder of the IBM, are there any issues regarding, basically, having this drive clone ITSELF while it's essentially the active drive? From the OS' point of view, there's no problemo. But some apps keep data in memory for far too long before writing it to disk. This means the files that CCC grabs will be a tad out of date. To prevent that, it's best to quit those app (eg: Eudora), as well as dismount any dmg volumes. If I understand the documentation correctly, it seems to say it can be done, albeit preferably during idle time. Idle is best, because you're modifying fewer files. If you want to speed up the backup a bit, btw, tell it to ignore Library/Caches and /private/var/vm/. Note the lack of the initial /. That's done so as to ignore /Library/Caches/ *and* all the caches folders in each user directory. - Dan. So Dan...what is it going to take to get you to list YOUR apps here...as I've been trying to do? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
At 8:00 AM -0700 3/21/2009, nestamicky wrote: So Dan...what is it going to take to get you to list YOUR apps here...as I've been trying to do? huh? It's a thread about fans that has skewed off into HD functions... What's that got to do with apps? If you want to do a thread about fav apps, then you should start a new thread with an appropriate subject. That way it's easily found when one searches. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
Hey Bruce, if you're anywhere out there - Am absolutely fascinated by all this . . . I've often wondered about Carbon Copy Cloner whenever I've seen it mentioned in these posts. Since reading your recommendation I've downloaded it and it's now installed in my Apps folder good to go. But, up front, I must confess that although I'm fairly handy with managing my Macs, I don't claim to be even remotely techy. I've plowed thru Mike Bombich's FAQs and other CCC documentation but I'm still very apprehensive at the prospect of what I'm proposing to do: I want to clone the ageing Main 80Gig IBM drive on my G4 dual-1Gig MDD (running 10.4.11) onto a vacant partition on my newish 500Gig WD external drive. The IBM, although it's never missed a beat, is over 5 years old and its days are surely numbered. So I'm trying to insure myself against the day when it inevitably dies on me. All drives involved are formatted HFS+ Journaled. I've set up the 500Gig WD external with 3 partitions: 2 x 180Gig 1 x 100Gig The 2 x 180Gig partitions are regularly used for backing up all my treasured files (graphic art, Cubase Audio recordings etc). The 1 x 100Gig partition is vacant, has never been used - I've reserved it expressly for this purpose. What I'm concerned about is this: When Mike Bombich says that CCC erases the target drive in order to do its thing, does he mean it erases the ENTIRE drive? Or will it safely clone to the vacant partition leaving the files on the other two partitions intact? Also, considering CCC is installed in the Apps folder of the IBM, are there any issues regarding, basically, having this drive clone ITSELF while it's essentially the active drive? If I understand the documentation correctly, it seems to say it can be done, albeit preferably during idle time. Although it would be handy, the clone on the WD doesn't necessarily have to be bootable. Mike states that this can be a problem with certain WD externals. I just want to have a current copy of my main drive stored securely away ready to go onto a newly-installed Main drive when the IBM eventually gives up the ghost. Please forgive the non-tech speak . . . Any insight you can provide for this relative layman would be hugely appreciated. Cheers artemis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
