Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
I don't actually own one, but a friend of mine has it and enjoys it quite a bit. Videos are fantastic, but when I loaded the same FLAC on both a Galaxy and my Zune and played through same headphones, the Galaxy definitely was worse, although not as bad as the iPod Touch (much better, in fact). I'm not sure how syncing works on Mac with em, though. -- -- Illirik Smirnov On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Martin N marti...@bluebottle.com wrote: Lo, At 16:56 13/08/2012, you wrote: Other than that, I really like the Samsung Galaxy players and some of the newer Sandisks for music, esp. if you load Rockbox. Do you have a Samsung galaxy player? I was looking at them as a DAP to replace my cowan d2. Hi-Fi world mag (UK)_reviewed it as the best one from a group of iPod classic, touch, Phillips, cowan and a Sony. Martin N Running MorphOS v3.1 (July 2012) on a PowerPC Powerbook, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
Sorry to bring this thread back to topic, but I have been watching with hopes of learning how I can listen to itunes radio on my older G3 laptops since they do not function any longer apparently due to the content of this thread. I am presently living overseas and have really enjoyed getting my news info and music on itunes only to abruptly have in disappear. We have (several) old G3 laptops of various OS setups that we use on a regular basis to stream radio. Our G4 powerbooks all work fine, as do our G5 and newer, however itunes will no longer play *any* radio stations on *any* of the G3 models. I have read here to manually rebuild the list, but not being nearly as technical as those posting, I don't know how to do this. I tried to upgrade our ibook 800mhz by loading itunes v8.x over itunes v7.x and it did nothing to help get the radio back. We have one pc running win xp and removing the program and reloading it fixed the problem, but this didn't work on the ibook. I don't want to remove the program from the older models either as I can't seem to find working downloads for the older itunes programs. Any advice?? Thanks spilrules Em segunda-feira, 13 de agosto de 2012 14h51min29s UTC-7, martin trotter escreveu: Lo, At 16:56 13/08/2012, you wrote: Other than that, I really like the Samsung Galaxy players and some of the newer Sandisks for music, esp. if you load Rockbox. Do you have a Samsung galaxy player? I was looking at them as a DAP to replace my cowan d2. Hi-Fi world mag (UK)_reviewed it as the best one from a group of iPod classic, touch, Phillips, cowan and a Sony. Martin N Running MorphOS v3.1 (July 2012) on a PowerPC Powerbook, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 7:17 PM -0700 8/14/2012, spilrules wrote: I have read here to manually rebuild the list, but not being nearly as technical as those posting, I don't know how to do this. You need to refresh the steaming entries you've saved. Go to iTunes' Radio library category, locate your favorite stations and drag them to your playlist again. Or go to your favorite station's web site and locate their link to their streaming radio. It should download a .pls file, that loads into iTunes. I tried to upgrade our ibook 800mhz by loading itunes v8.x over itunes v7.x and it did nothing to help get the radio back. Right. iTunes.app is NOT broken. Apple made this change *on their servers* and discontinued the redirection/tracking service. So all the previously saved streaming items in your playlists point to the wrong URLs now. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
Here is a page that gives a step by step on how to locate ip radio stations and put them into your iTunes. Perhaps it will also work with older versions of iTunes. http://www.macinstruct.com/node/101 Cheers Harry San Jose -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
On Sunday, August 12, 2012 6:16:27 AM UTC-7, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Dan wrote: What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. I agree, totally bad move for Apple. I suspect if we bitch to the radio stations, the stations will bitch to Apple with more clout than us? Sounds like a good idea, however kts-af.net is an underlying service that receives a fee for redirecting traffic. In case your not aware of it when you go to a WEB Page and click on a link that takes you to another WEB Page, the receiving Owner of that page has to PAY the referring page owner for the potential customer. I've been retired for more than 10 years now and the ISP that we owned (PGEXPRESS.COM) went bankrupt in the U.S. and was moved back to London, so I don't remember how much is paid to the referring page owner, it is not very much Oh say something like $0.1 (just a guess perhaps another member knows the exact amount) but if you consider 100,000,000 link connections a day can add up to a sizable amount. In addition let's take Google as an example, when you click on the Shopping icon and follow one of the links, Google is paid a link referral fee and if you purchase something using that link then Google gets and additional fee. Therefore if you are being referred directly to a radio station link from iTunes kts-af.net is being cut out of the fee chain. So expecting that the radio station will be support going back to the old way doesn't have much of a chance. Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
Seems like Apple would prefer to view my iPod as their personal ATM. I've gotten an older [2.5 generation] iPod touch and honestly I've grown to detest the thing. Wifi is incredibly slow, the touch typing is annoying and slow, and not uniform across apps, no streaming internet radio by default. It does nothing *well*, and what it does do--play music I already own---so did my Walkman from 1986 [except that Walkman had also had simple access to free radio]. I hate to be /that guy/, but I recently bought myself a used Zune HD and it works very well with all of my computers (PC and Mac alike). I replaced my older iPod Touch because of what you described: Apple not really supporting anything, either. In addition, the audio quality on my FLACs was subpar; I often blast the tunes off of it on huge speaker systems, and I got tired of FLACs sounding like 128kbps MP3s. The Zune works reasonably well; to sync on Mac, just load up the tiny, low-resource sync utility, point it to a folder of MP3s, and wait a few minutes. Wifi is quite usable, and the web browser is as nice as an older iPhone's when over wifi. I'm not big on games (I have a PSP for that), but there *are* a few nice ones, esp. with some hacking. Streaming Internet radio support is available with a little hacking, and it picks up both FM and HD radio really, really well out of the box. Furthermore, the UI is really nice and easy, and the OLED screen is gorgeous when watching movies on it. The downside is the fact that my used 64GB cost $280 (about the same as a new iPod Touch, right?), and that's the low end for the pricing on these guys (mine had some geometric design etched in the back; plain-backed ones can't be had for under $350). Battery lasts three days of on-again, off-again usage (probably about 15 hours of music, with one movie's worth play) The bad thing is the price, the manufacturer, and the fact that they don't sync natively with macs running pre-10.4 OSes. Still a great way to spend a week's wages, though. Other than that, I really like the Samsung Galaxy players and some of the newer Sandisks for music, esp. if you load Rockbox. The thing is that I have ~250GB of FLACs (with an MP3 copy of each for various purposes) and I need, at the very least, 60GB of storage (to have my favorites in FLAC and a bunch of other stuff in 320 MP3s). I might get a 160GB Classic, but the battery life worries me. Back on topic: I think that iTunes' radio support is mediocre at best, but updating the links manually seems like the only way to go here. I'd really like to think that this is just another Apple-Hates-PPC move, but some of my stations on an Intel mac were lost too, so I dunno. -- -- Illirik Smirnov -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
Lo, At 16:56 13/08/2012, you wrote: Other than that, I really like the Samsung Galaxy players and some of the newer Sandisks for music, esp. if you load Rockbox. Do you have a Samsung galaxy player? I was looking at them as a DAP to replace my cowan d2. Hi-Fi world mag (UK)_reviewed it as the best one from a group of iPod classic, touch, Phillips, cowan and a Sony. Martin N Running MorphOS v3.1 (July 2012) on a PowerPC Powerbook, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 7:18 PM -0700 8/11/2012, a1 wrote: [top posting onto an already bottom-posted thread corrected] On Aug 11, 9:05 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Could be temporary. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Apple doing it intentionally. I've noticed more and more dead listings in the radio section. I'm using iTunes 10.6 on my G5 running Leopard. I use it for streaming radio stations, a lot. This past week I noticed no station in my custom playlist for radio would play! Yet, when I created a new playlist and added the stations from the iTunes master list, all the stations played. At the /same/ time, the same stations would not play from the previous playlist. g. Ok. Just tried playing the other stuff in my playlists. Everything I'd dragged in from the iTunes Radio category is now broken. The only ones that work are the ones I'd manually created via web sites. So I tried the current ones in the Radio category; most of those work. Dug deeper... Looks like Apple has changed ALL the entries. You can see the difference by selecting an entry and doing a get-info. Old: The url pointed to kts-af.net, which did an indexed redirect, probably for tracking purposes. New: The url points to the station's stream directly. And the redirecter at kts-af has been *deleted* -- which is why iTunes fails to connect using the old url. eg -- Old BBC 6: http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=e7da5c9b54feee9d28e7733c5ddc876burl_no=1client_id=7uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180clicksrc=xml New BBC 6: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r6_heaacv2.pls If this stays as is, it means we have to manually rebuild our playlists. What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Dan wrote: What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. I agree, totally bad move for Apple. I suspect if we bitch to the radio stations, the stations will bitch to Apple with more clout than us? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 8:16 AM -0500 8/12/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Dan wrote: What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. I agree, totally bad move for Apple. I suspect if we bitch to the radio stations, the stations will bitch to Apple with more clout than us? Sounds like it's worth a shot. I've sent email to the three stations I haunt. sigh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
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On Aug 12, 9:22 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:16 AM -0500 8/12/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 12, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Dan wrote: What a retarded Apple move. Bad enough that they made the change, but to do it without any sort of announcement / warning How does that say, in any way, that Apple has any respect whatsoever for their customers? Disgusting. I agree, totally bad move for Apple. I suspect if we bitch to the radio stations, the stations will bitch to Apple with more clout than us? Sounds like it's worth a shot. I've sent email to the three stations I haunt. sigh. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. That solves the mystery. I only had about 50 stations to rebuild in a new playlist, but still. That's like a Microsoft move. I am also suspicious why there is no obvious, simple way to add internet radio stations on my iPod. Is there? Seems like Apple would prefer to view my iPod as their personal ATM. I've gotten an older [2.5 generation] iPod touch and honestly I've grown to detest the thing. Wifi is incredibly slow, the touch typing is annoying and slow, and not uniform across apps, no streaming internet radio by default. It does nothing *well*, and what it does do--play music I already own---so did my Walkman from 1986 [except that Walkman had also had simple access to free radio]. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
At 8:38 AM -0500 8/11/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: I use an old G3 laptop by my bedside as a clock-radio. Yesterday iTunes' radio playlist came back with an error message saying it couldn't connect to the server to get the current radio list. I have a bad feeling this is Apple forcibly ending iTunes' radio support for older versions of iTunes? I did reboot, and checked my internet connection, and everything was ok, so it appears the problem was on Apple's end. Could be temporary. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Apple doing it intentionally. I've noticed more and more dead listings in the radio section. Try saving stations you like in a playlist, so they don't get wiped out. Maybe even move 'em to an app such as Audion, sans Apple's redirection tracking prefix. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes G3 radio playlist servers?
I'm using iTunes 10.6 on my G5 running Leopard. I use it for streaming radio stations, a lot. This past week I noticed no station in my custom playlist for radio would play! Yet, when I created a new playlist and added the stations from the iTunes master list, all the stations played. At the /same/ time, the same stations would not play from the previous playlist. I thought this was absurdly strange. On Aug 11, 9:05 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:38 AM -0500 8/11/2012, Kris Tilford wrote: I use an old G3 laptop by my bedside as a clock-radio. Yesterday iTunes' radio playlist came back with an error message saying it couldn't connect to the server to get the current radio list. I have a bad feeling this is Apple forcibly ending iTunes' radio support for older versions of iTunes? I did reboot, and checked my internet connection, and everything was ok, so it appears the problem was on Apple's end. Could be temporary. OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Apple doing it intentionally. I've noticed more and more dead listings in the radio section. Try saving stations you like in a playlist, so they don't get wiped out. Maybe even move 'em to an app such as Audion, sans Apple's redirection tracking prefix. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
