Optical jumpers?
When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set to? Master, slave or cable select? Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical jumpers?
Master usually is the setting you want. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:42:26 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Optical jumpers? When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set to? Master, slave or cable select? Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical jumpers?
On 12/11/10 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set to? Master, slave or cable select? I usually set it to master as it's the only device that is on the IDE chain in said enclosure. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical jumpers?
On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set to? Master, slave or cable select? Are you talking about a FW-IDE enclosure? If that's the case then Master. If this is some kind of IDE external enclosure then the setting is dependent on what it is connected to it Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Optical jumpers?
On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: When using an optical in an external enclosure, what should the jumpers be set to? Master, slave or cable select? Are you talking about a FW-IDE enclosure? If that's the case then Master. If this is some kind of IDE external enclosure then the setting is dependent on what it is connected to it This is the enclosure I'm using: http://www.deltrontech.com/PDF/0502/E5.pdf I had the drive (Pioneer 118L) with the jumper set the cable select (left it that way after pulling it out of the G4 MDD it was in previously) And for some reason, I'm guessing the jumper setting, when importing a CD into itunes not only took what seemed like forever, but the drive spun up rather strangely?? Then after Daniel and others told me to set to Master, I needed to use handbrake to import a movie to iTunes and was pleasantly surprised when it took a pleasing 16 mins to encode! If my itunes CD import works as good, all is great in my world!:-) Jeff Engle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
jumpers again
I want to thank all of you that offered your advice and wisdom regarding the jumper settings on my hard drives. I love this List! For the edification of others, here is what worked for me: I have 2 hard drives: Quantum Fireball (20 GB) and Seagate Barricuda (80 GB). I have the Quantum set to MASTER. I removed the jumpers on the Seagate as per OWC tech support. This sets the Seagate to Slave. The tech guy told me that after I have successfully booted the computer (BW upgraded to G4), I should forget about the jumpers and just use SystemPreferences/Startup Disk to tell the Mac what drive to boot from. Happily, I am up and running. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: jumpers again
On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:59 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: The tech guy told me that after I have successfully booted the computer (BW upgraded to G4), I should forget about the jumpers and just use SystemPreferences/Startup Disk to tell the Mac what drive to boot from. Master and slave are really not master per se nor slave per se. Both are peers (have the same priority) but have different identities (logical unit 0 and logical unit 1, for example). In the PCI card implementation of ATA, the two cables are divided up so that the drives appear as SCSI bus x, logical units 0 and 1, and logical units 2 and 3. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: jumpers
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Question: I want to install the Seagate as a slave until I can do a carbon copy clone. Then I want to use the Seagate as my new Master and the Quantum as a slave. If the Seagate must be set to CS in order to work in my BW, what should the jumper settings be for the Quantum? CS. In Cable Select mode all drives must be jumpered to CS. As for your overall plan, this is a Mac, not a PC. Master/Slave bears no relationship whatsoever to boot volume. Once you're ready to switch, just go to System Prefs Startup disk and choose the disk you want to boot from. Reboot and that will be your new boot volume. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
jumpers
I have a new hard drive on order. I plan to install it into my BW and after carbon copy, switch it to the master position. I am presently using a Quantum Fireball as my main drive. Interestingly, the BW prefers me to set the jumper on CS instead of Master. The new drive is a Seagate Barricuda (3160815A) and should be faster than the Quantum. Question: I want to install the Seagate as a slave until I can do a carbon copy clone. Then I want to use the Seagate as my new Master and the Quantum as a slave. If the Seagate must be set to CS in order to work in my BW, what should the jumper settings be for the Quantum? When I get the new drive, how do I set it to be the slave to the Quantum? The CS setting is somewhat confusing to me as it is neither Master of Slave. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: jumpers
On 15/3/09 13:56, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: I have a new hard drive on order. I plan to install it into my BW and after carbon copy, switch it to the master position. I am presently using a Quantum Fireball as my main drive. Interestingly, the BW prefers me to set the jumper on CS instead of Master. The new drive is a Seagate Barricuda (3160815A) and should be faster than the Quantum. Question: I want to install the Seagate as a slave until I can do a carbon copy clone. Then I want to use the Seagate as my new Master and the Quantum as a slave. If the Seagate must be set to CS in order to work in my BW, what should the jumper settings be for the Quantum? When I get the new drive, how do I set it to be the slave to the Quantum? The CS setting is somewhat confusing to me as it is neither Master of Slave. As I understand it - cs stands for cable select which - in the case of two devices on one ide cable both of which are set to cs - gives 'master' to the device nearest the mobo and slave to the second device. Could be I'm wrong - I haven't googled for it but that's what I always thought. Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: jumpers
Lawrence David Eden wrote: I have a new hard drive on order. I plan to install it into my BW and after carbon copy, switch it to the master position. I am presently using a Quantum Fireball as my main drive. Interestingly, the BW prefers me to set the jumper on CS instead of Master. The new drive is a Seagate Barricuda (3160815A) and should be faster than the Quantum. Question: I want to install the Seagate as a slave until I can do a carbon copy clone. Then I want to use the Seagate as my new Master and the Quantum as a slave. If the Seagate must be set to CS in order to work in my BW, what should the jumper settings be for the Quantum? When I get the new drive, how do I set it to be the slave to the Quantum? The CS setting is somewhat confusing to me as it is neither Master of Slave. CS stand for (among other thing), cable select. set the new drive to the cable select setting. Install it on the cable on the other connector besides the fireball. The drive controller will see the new drive as the slave drive. Once you carbon copy it. move it to the cable connector formerly used by the fireball. In cable select, it is the position of the drive on the cable which determines master or slave. Peace, Dennis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: jumpers
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: I want to install the Seagate as a slave until I can do a carbon copy clone. Then I want to use the Seagate as my new Master and the Quantum as a slave. If the Seagate must be set to CS in order to work in my BW, what should the jumper settings be for the Quantum? The BW and all later HD (and optical/Zip) cables are set up for CS, but these do not use it explicitly except during the initial roll call function of POST. This is related to a Compaq/HP patent for CS whereby the device characteristics of the attached drives may be more easily determined, and the motherboard chip thereby may be more easily set as to speed, etcetera. This procedure requires a cable which is set up for CS so that the host adapter may determine if a 40-wire/40-pin cable is attached, or if an 80-wire/40-pin cable is attached, and if the latter, then the speed of each drive may be interrogated by sending a special reset sequence to each of the attached drives. When I get the new drive, how do I set it to be the slave to the Quantum? The CS setting is somewhat confusing to me as it is neither Master of Slave. Thereafter (after roll call is complete) the Mac uses master and slave. By convention, the optical drive is always master and the Zip, or a hard drive which is installed in place of the Zip, is always slave. Also by convention, the lower drive of the two-drive carrier is always master (although it need not be, if a second drive is also present) while the upper drive of the carrier is slave. On the two-drive carrier and the HD bus, you may freely interchange master and slave as long as two drives are always present. Typically, I initialize new HDs in the Zip bay of the optical bus (I have NO Zips on any of my machines). Therefore, this HD is always slave. After testing is complete, I may then move it to the two-drive carrier, also as slave, but I could just as easily move it to the two- high carrier as master, retaining the slave which may already be there. (This allows for a lot of flexibility when CCC-ing backup or duplicate drives.) Most of my remaining G4s ... and I have about a half-dozen of them ... use a 160 GB master and a 500 GB slave, on the two-high carrier. The 160 GB drive has 10.3.9, 10.3.9 Server. 10.4.11 and 10.5.6 in the under 131,072 MB area, with about 25 GB left over as scratch (usually used for temporary storage for Toast). The 500 GB drive is a pure data drive and is generally partitioned as 131,072 MB and about 338 GB. With the availability of the LBA48 Property script for all G4s (and possibly for the BW and Yikes! as well) I could operate the drives without the hard 131,072 partitioning, but old habits die hard. Incidentally, I just yesterday acquired a QS 2001 to which had been applied a firmware update which gave that machine permanent large drive capability without using the LBA48 Property scripts. I tested this fact by executing a reset-nvram in O.F., and after the reboot the 200 GB drive was still seen as 200 GB and not as 128 GB. For non-QS machines, the LBA48 Property scripts remain an option. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: jumpers
1- Assuming that what you say is correct - I. E. you must install the jumper to a CS setting then why not try removing your master HD, change the jumper to a CS setting, jumper your new HD to master and reinstall both in the proper position on the flat cable. or 2- Assume that you can use the master/slave setup with your jumpers, then remove the master, set the jumper (or remove the jumper) to convert the HD to slave, set the jumper on the new HD to master, and reinstall both in the proper position on the flat cable. For either setting, when you boot up, hold down the option key and when the arrow comes up select the HD that has OS X installed and click on the arrow to boot from that drive. Then use disk utility to check both HDs and correct permissions on the HD that was your master. After that process, employ CCC to do a back up on the new drive. Upon completion, do a restart boot, hold down ht eoption key and dselect the new drive whch should be your master. If you you boot up successfuly then go to Systems Preferences and select that HD as your boot drive. I hope that works for you. Mel --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote: From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net Subject: jumpers To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 6:56 AM I have a new hard drive on order. I plan to install it into my BW and after carbon copy, switch it to the master position. I am presently using a Quantum Fireball as my main drive. Interestingly, the BW prefers me to set the jumper on CS instead of Master. The new drive is a Seagate Barricuda (3160815A) and should be faster than the Quantum. Question: I want to install the Seagate as a slave until I can do a carbon copy clone. Then I want to use the Seagate as my new Master and the Quantum as a slave. If the Seagate must be set to CS in order to work in my BW, what should the jumper settings be for the Quantum? When I get the new drive, how do I set it to be the slave to the Quantum? The CS setting is somewhat confusing to me as it is neither Master of Slave. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
