Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Lørdag, 1/2 2014, 01:02, Manoah F. Adams skrev: On Jan 17, 2014, at 05:26 , t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection Hi, I don't really have any idea where your bottleneck is, but I can assure you it is nothing intrinsic in your computer [snip] Point 2: I think somebody might have been pulling your leg when reporting the Windows connection speed. no pulling legs, I was present, seeing it with my own eyes What's the likelihood that you're getting 50 Mbits ? ... ( Unless you have a VDSL line or the like ) Point 3: Testing service... Try other testing services too, such as http://www.scanmyspeed.com/. [hey you never know, M.S. might have 'influenced' some of them]. By the way, I don't think you have mentioned thus far what your internet connection type is (Cable, DSL, etc.). it's a fiberconnection 50/50 /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On 14-01-17 7:47 AM, Dan wrote: See Nesta's reply... that both Macs get the same throughput could be telling. Check the router and any local switch between you and it... - Dan. I can't find my response to this thread you've mentioned here Dan. But if she can find it, it's worth a try. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 08:43, Bruce Johnson skrev: On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:13 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( What speed does the router talk to your Mac at? It will be (probably) 100mbit or even gigabit Ethernet. You might have some communications issues between the router and the mac. You can go to System prefs Networking and in the advanced section of the ethernet, Look in the Hardware tab (may be different in 10.4 and 10.5, but on my system it has the following: Configure: Manually or Automatically Speed: Autoselect, 10baseT, 100baseT, 1000BaseT Duplex: Full-duplex, full-duplex Flow Control, maybe Half-duplex (mine doesn't show that, but it may not be relevant under gigabit) MTU: Standard or Çustom. You might be having issues with speed and duplexing. Try setting those manually. been there, done that - no change Supposedly there are ways to set your MTU for better performance with specific networking setups, and you might be able to fix something like that, but I don't have any direct experience. But hey, you're paying for this service, and you're not getting it, get them in to see what's happening with your equipment, and don't take 'Oh it's a Mac' for an answer. well, they specify in the support section that I should use a newer computer when testing for speed I'm quite sure I don't get anywhere with them thanks /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 10:29, Kris Tilford skrev: On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: any ideas out there? This article has some info on tweaking OS X network connections: http://rolande.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/performance-tuning-the-network-stack-on-mac-osx-10-6/ In the link to the older Wayback Machine archive, they're specifically talking about older PPC Macs running 10.4 10.5, and there seems to be a limitation under default settings that's near your 14 Mbps limit. By adjusting two parameter settings they up it to 35 Mbps. I remember when I was running PPC Macs I always used some Terminal script to optimize my network settings and it really had a large effect. I can't remember the name of what I used, but it worked. thanks, but that's a bit too much for me I tried the apple broadband tuner, that didn't help either frustrating! and s wierd that the system limits the hardware thanks all for trying /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On Jan 17, 2014, at 05:26 , t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection Hi, I don't really have any idea where your bottleneck is, but I can assure you it is nothing intrinsic in your computer --- Assuming that by 14 Mbit we're talking 14 mega-bits per second... that is 1.75 Megabytes / second. 50 Mbits/s would be about 6.25 MB/s --- Point 1: This has nothing to with your OS or hardware capabilities. I often use ethernet to transfer files from my linux laptop to my mac and have experienced much faster speeds: transfer from: Linux Fedora on Thinkpad, builtin ethernet through: Linksys 5 port hub To: Powerbook 12 - built-in ethernet - ~ 48 Mbits/second and later... G4 Quicksilver - ~80 Megabits/second Each case the mac running OS-X 10.4.11, built-in ethernet, speed reported by Linux, ftp protocol. ( I am quite sure that the faster transfer to the desktop machine is a matter of the CPU speed, in my case, since the Powerbook's CPU gets maxed out during the transfer. ) Point 2: I think somebody might have been pulling your leg when reporting the Windows connection speed. My connection type is mobile-broad-band (at 2.4 Mbits/s), so I got curious and decided to do some checking about wired connections... - fastest average internet connection speed in the U.S. is 10 Mbit/s. http://www.statetechmagazine.com/article/2013/02/average-internet- connection-speed-every-state-america - U.S. average speed is 7.4 Mbits/s http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Average-US-Connection-Speed- Now-74-Mbps-123988 - Theoretical maximum cable speed is 30 Mbit/s http://compnetworking.about.com/od/internetaccessbestuses/f/ cablespeed.htm - Typical maximum DSL speed if 20 Mbits/s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_access What's the likelihood that you're getting 50 Mbits ? ... ( Unless you have a VDSL line or the like ) Point 3: Testing service... Try other testing services too, such as http://www.scanmyspeed.com/. [hey you never know, M.S. might have 'influenced' some of them]. By the way, I don't think you have mentioned thus far what your internet connection type is (Cable, DSL, etc.). Manoah F. Adams P.S.: In the course of checking the connection speeds for my self, I was reminded why I use a mac... The moment I started Internet Explorer on Windows 7, what does it do? It tries to open msn.com and the computer chokes because it is trying to open a new window faster than I can click the close buttons, then even the task manager cant get enough CPU power to run, nor can it bring itself to the front to be useful. I had to turn off the wifi and let it burn itself out ! This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. === smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
no fast internet on my g-macs?
hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Do you have the same problem on the PowerBook if you take it to a friends house? If it is fine there, it is the router, if not, it is your machines. ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ On 1/17/14, 6:55 AM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
At 2:26 PM +0100 01/17/2014, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange Those Macs are certainly capable of doing much better. By example, both my 300-MHz Smurf (G3; Tiger) and 933-MHz QuickSilver (G4; Leopard) can easily peg our fiber service (at various times our Verizon FiOS service has been 15, 30, and 50 Mbps -- depends on how cheap we feel). And when talking to a SmartStor NAS on our LAN (GigE switch), they frequently do 80%+ of their ethernet speeds. (The Smurf is 100Mb and the QS is gigE). Are you using a wired or wifi connection to your home router? Switches involved? How exactly are you determining can't get more than 14 Mbit? Are you sure that those aformentioned Windoze machines aren't sucking up the bandwidth? ... I get terrible speedtest results when my housemate's peecee is all infected (he swamps the router with open ports talking to Russian sites, filling its NAT table) or streaming high def vid, etc. Have you run some traceroutes, to make sure the path between you and your target is clear? See Nesta's reply... that both Macs get the same throughput could be telling. Check the router and any local switch between you and it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 02:55, Nestamicky skrev: On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( tia /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:13 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( What speed does the router talk to your Mac at? It will be (probably) 100mbit or even gigabit Ethernet. You might have some communications issues between the router and the mac. You can go to System prefs Networking and in the advanced section of the ethernet, Look in the Hardware tab (may be different in 10.4 and 10.5, but on my system it has the following: Configure: Manually or Automatically Speed: Autoselect, 10baseT, 100baseT, 1000BaseT Duplex: Full-duplex, full-duplex Flow Control, maybe Half-duplex (mine doesn’t show that, but it may not be relevant under gigabit) MTU: Standard or Çustom. You might be having issues with speed and duplexing. Try setting those manually. Supposedly there are ways to set your MTU for better performance with specific networking setups, and you might be able to fix something like that, but I don’t have any direct experience. But hey, you’re paying for this service, and you’re not getting it, get them in to see what’s happening with your equipment, and don’t take ‘Oh it’s a Mac’ for an answer. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: any ideas out there? This article has some info on tweaking OS X network connections: http://rolande.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/performance-tuning-the-network-stack-on-mac-osx-10-6/ In the link to the older Wayback Machine archive, they’re specifically talking about older PPC Macs running 10.4 10.5, and there seems to be a limitation under default settings that’s near your 14 Mbps limit. By adjusting two parameter settings they up it to 35 Mbps. I remember when I was running PPC Macs I always used some Terminal script to optimize my network settings and it really had a large effect. I can’t remember the name of what I used, but it worked. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
