Re: questions....questions

2009-03-02 Thread nestamicky



Lawrence David Eden wrote:
 Here is my situation:

 I have been using a Beige G3 with a Zif Upgrade.  The Beige runs at 
 500mhz.  I have added firewire and USB cards and they work fine.  In 
 fact, the entire computer is performing well.

 I was recently given a 450 mhz G4 tower which I expect to be faster 
 than the Beige and I want to start using it ASAP.  My ZIF upgrade is 
 compatible with the new Mac, so I can use it.

 The problem(s)

 I want to transfer all of my settings, software authorizations, 
 bookmarks, and email addresses to the newer Mac.

 But

 The hard drive from the Beige is incompatible with the new G4 so I 
 can't simply add the Beige's hard drive to the G4.  Nor will it mount 
 on the G4 regardless of jumper settings.
 Apple's Migration Assistant did not work because the Beige does not 
 have native firewire.

 I did a Carbon Copy Clone of the Beige onto my external firewire 
 drive but I can't figure out how to transfer the clone to the newer 
 Mac.
   
1. Put the older HD in an external case; USB/Firewire.
2. Read CC's website carefully. I've done this before but can't recall now.
3. Use a network; a switch and two CAT5 cables.
 I hope that some of you have experience with this scenario and can 
 offer some ideas towards a solution.  Also, considering the time and 
 trouble, do you think I will see any speed increases over the Beige?

 Larry Eden




 
   

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questions....questions

2009-03-01 Thread Lawrence David Eden

Here is my situation:

I have been using a Beige G3 with a Zif Upgrade.  The Beige runs at 
500mhz.  I have added firewire and USB cards and they work fine.  In 
fact, the entire computer is performing well.

I was recently given a 450 mhz G4 tower which I expect to be faster 
than the Beige and I want to start using it ASAP.  My ZIF upgrade is 
compatible with the new Mac, so I can use it.

The problem(s)

I want to transfer all of my settings, software authorizations, 
bookmarks, and email addresses to the newer Mac.

But

The hard drive from the Beige is incompatible with the new G4 so I 
can't simply add the Beige's hard drive to the G4.  Nor will it mount 
on the G4 regardless of jumper settings.
Apple's Migration Assistant did not work because the Beige does not 
have native firewire.

I did a Carbon Copy Clone of the Beige onto my external firewire 
drive but I can't figure out how to transfer the clone to the newer 
Mac.

I hope that some of you have experience with this scenario and can 
offer some ideas towards a solution.  Also, considering the time and 
trouble, do you think I will see any speed increases over the Beige?

Larry Eden




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Re: questions....questions

2009-03-01 Thread Cyrus

Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an
IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the
G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home
folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd. This would effectively do
what you'd want, if you put your username and short name the same on
both installations.
As for being faster... the G4 will have a much faster bus speed, and
probably faster RAM. But with the upgrade, they'd probably be
equivalent. The G4 probably has more compatibility and expandability
also, however, and can be upgraded to 1GHz (or more). Just some things
to consider, the choice is yours :)


 -Cyrus


On Mar 1, 10:24 am, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote:
 Here is my situation:

 I have been using a Beige G3 with a Zif Upgrade.  The Beige runs at
 500mhz.  I have added firewire and USB cards and they work fine.  In
 fact, the entire computer is performing well.

 I was recently given a 450 mhz G4 tower which I expect to be faster
 than the Beige and I want to start using it ASAP.  My ZIF upgrade is
 compatible with the new Mac, so I can use it.

 The problem(s)

 I want to transfer all of my settings, software authorizations,
 bookmarks, and email addresses to the newer Mac.

 But

 The hard drive from the Beige is incompatible with the new G4 so I
 can't simply add the Beige's hard drive to the G4.  Nor will it mount
 on the G4 regardless of jumper settings.
 Apple's Migration Assistant did not work because the Beige does not
 have native firewire.

 I did a Carbon Copy Clone of the Beige onto my external firewire
 drive but I can't figure out how to transfer the clone to the newer
 Mac.

 I hope that some of you have experience with this scenario and can
 offer some ideas towards a solution.  Also, considering the time and
 trouble, do you think I will see any speed increases over the Beige?

 Larry Eden
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Re: questions....questions

2009-03-01 Thread Lawrence David Eden

Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an
IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the
G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home
folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd. This would effectively do
what you'd want, if you put your username and short name the same on
both installations.



Tried this but it did not work.  Both hard drives are Quantum ATA. 
Neither will work in the other computer.  Srange!


As for being faster... the G4 will have a much faster bus speed, and
proba

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Re: questions....questions

2009-03-01 Thread pdimage

On 1/3/09 17:47, Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net wrote:

 
 Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an
 IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the
 G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home
 folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd. This would effectively do
 what you'd want, if you put your username and short name the same on
 both installations.
 
 
 
 Tried this but it did not work.  Both hard drives are Quantum ATA.
 Neither will work in the other computer.  Srange!
 
 
Maybe the jumpers - put both hard drives in one machine with the one
closest to the mobo set as master and the other as slave. Both hds should
show on the desktop.

Pete



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Re: questions....questions

2009-03-01 Thread joe

On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Cyrus wrote:

 Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an
 IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the
 G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home
 folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd.

I don't think this should work.  The OSX install is hardware  
specific, and a G4 isn't the same as a beige (even with a G4 upgrade).



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Re: questions....questions

2009-03-01 Thread Powermac

Set the hard drive to cable select. Why not just run both machines as
is and transfer the files between them using the network?

I have no idea how apps are installed in OSX, but in OS 7/8/9 you
could just drag the whole directory from one drive to another and the
app would run just fine.

On Mar 1, 3:51 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote:
 On 3/1/09 12:47 PM, Lawrence David Eden of lde...@comcast.net sent



  Hmm, that's strange, the hard drive should work in either, if it's an
  IDE HD. You could just install OSX on the G4, then put the HD from the
  G4 in the beige, (hopefully this would work?) then move you home
  folder over, and replace it on the G4 hd. This would effectively do
  what you'd want, if you put your username and short name the same on
  both installations.

  Tried this but it did not work.  Both hard drives are Quantum ATA.
  Neither will work in the other computer.  Srange!

 The first thing coming to mind is the jumper settings. Would be chance the
 targeted HD in question been a slave that you are now hoping to use as a
 master? Or vs. a vs.?
 Just a thought,
 Dana
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