wireless signal theft

2011-03-09 Thread Charles Lenington
I hope everyone with unsecured wireless networks takes todays report on 
NBC's Today show seriously. Luckily the FBI investigated enough that the 
owner of the open network didn't go to jail for pornography. Sure a 
password is inconvenient, but staying out of jail would be high on my 
list. I personally turn off/disable all wireless and bluetooth 
devices/networks. (And really restrict what I say over a cell phone).


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Re: wireless signal theft

2011-03-09 Thread Yersinia

On 3/9/11 8:53 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:
I hope everyone with unsecured wireless networks takes todays report 
on NBC's Today show seriously. Luckily the FBI investigated enough 
that the owner of the open network didn't go to jail for pornography. 
Sure a password is inconvenient, but staying out of jail would be high 
on my list. I personally turn off/disable all wireless and bluetooth 
devices/networks. (And really restrict what I say over a cell phone).


If you turn off your wireless and bluetooth networks, how do you use 
them yourself legitimately?


No I didn't see the show, I don't have live TV and haven't for 10 
years, but I've been aware of the fact that people can use other 
peoples' unsecured wireless signals.


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Re: wireless signal theft

2011-03-09 Thread Ted Treen






From: Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011 14:48:31
Subject: Re: wireless signal theft

On 3/9/11 8:34 AM, Yersinia wrote:
 On 3/9/11 8:53 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:
 I hope everyone with unsecured wireless networks takes todays report
 o

=snip

 If you turn off your wireless and bluetooth networks, how do you use
 them yourself legitimately?
 

Oh, I haven't found a need for them. I have plenty of hubs, routers and cat 5 
cables.

I turn off at both houses, (country and town).

_

I'm with Charles on this one (although I don't have country  town residences).

I DO have 13 cats, and as yet, I'm unconvinced of the safety of exposing them 
24/7 to 2.4GHz EMR.

Cat5E is cheap - well, as cheap as anything is here in the UK.

Bluetooth I use very occasionally - rarely for more than 5 mins at a time, but 
with a G5 desktop  a MacPro desktop, neither of which are readily portable, I 
haven't needed to even consider WiFi.


Ted

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Re: wireless signal theft

2011-03-09 Thread Dan

At 7:53 AM -0600 3/9/2011, Charles Lenington wrote:
I hope everyone with unsecured wireless networks takes todays report 
on NBC's Today show seriously. Luckily the FBI investigated enough 
that the owner of the open network didn't go to jail for pornography.


heh.  While I feel for the home-owner, I don't have much mercy for 
people that leave their networks or computers wide open.  This is the 
21st century.


...Verizon usually likes to install their FiOS ONT boxes on the 
*outside* of the home.  Makes it easier for their people to get into 
it if they need.  That bugs me -- there's a cat5 connector right 
there, for a wardriver et al to just plug in!  We had 'em put it in 
our basement.


Sure a password is inconvenient, but staying out of jail would be 
high on my list.


It took ... a hundred years to get people into the habit of locking 
their doors?  And another 50 years to get into the habit of locking 
their cars?


It might help if the WAP manufacturers enabled WPA2 by default. 
Haven't seen that yet tho.



At 3:06 PM + 3/9/2011, Ted Treen wrote:
Oh, I haven't found a need for them. I have plenty of hubs, routers 
and cat 5 cables.

I turn off at both houses, (country and town).


I'm with Charles on this one (although I don't have country  town 
residences).  I DO have 13 cats, and as yet, I'm unconvinced of the 
safety of exposing them 24/7 to 2.4GHz EMR.  Cat5E is cheap - well, 
as cheap as anything is here in the UK.


We use cat5 simply because the slow speed of wi-fi drives us nutz.


Bluetooth I use very occasionally - rarely for more than 5 mins at a time


Bluetooth connections are always encrypted; not like wi-fi at all.

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Re: wireless signal theft

2011-03-09 Thread iJohn
FWIW, I think this link brings up the report the OP is referring to.
Sounds like they used the infamous Pringle's can exploit.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41985312#41985312

-irrational john

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