Re: Cursor in Find box problem

[Clark Martin]

On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 16:01 +1000, dorayme wrote:
> In the directory of a disk, I have a search box at the top that takes
> text. I am in Tiger latest. I have never been able to type something and
> then go back and insert the cursor at the beginning of the first
> character. The cursor happily goes anywhere else. Anyone had this
> experience and/or know any way of doing it besides inserting the text
> cursor after the first character and deleting back and doing whatever
> you want to do then and reinserting the former first char if need be?

Best guess is you are using a font with some odd characteristics for the
search field.

Simpler than deleting, etc. is to left arrow to get before the first
character.  Or click anywhere in the box and press up arrow.

Another thought is to edit the toolbar (where the search box is), it's
under one of the finder menus, and delete the search box, then re-create
it.

I can't give you specifics, I'm not using OS X at the moment.

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Re: Cursor in Find box problem

[dorayme]

On 10/08/2009, at 5:32 PM, g3-5-list group wrote:

> Date: Mon, Aug 10 2009 12:17 am
> From: Clark Martin
>
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 16:01 +1000, dorayme wrote:
>> In the directory of a disk, I have a search box at the top that takes
>> text. I am in Tiger latest. I have never been able to type  
>> something and
>> then go back and insert the cursor at the beginning of the first
>> character. The cursor happily goes anywhere else. Anyone had this
>> experience and/or know any way of doing it besides inserting the text
>> cursor after the first character and deleting back and doing whatever
>> you want to do then and reinserting the former first char if need be?
>
> Best guess is you are using a font with some odd characteristics  
> for the
> search field.

Not sure what to do about that? Looks fine to me, a bit Geneverish...




> Simpler than deleting, etc. is to left arrow to get before the first
> character.  Or click anywhere in the box and press up arrow.

Of course! (slaps forehead...) Thanks for the reminder.


> Another thought is to edit the toolbar (where the search box is), it's
> under one of the finder menus, and delete the search box, then re- 
> create
> it.

I tried this but no luck...


> I can't give you specifics, I'm not using OS X at the moment.



It is certainly no big deal, just an odd curiosity which I have not  
been able to get confirmed... no one seems to use Tiger any more?


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Re: Cursor in Find box problem

[Kris Tilford]

I've never experienced the exact problem you're having, but I had a  
similar problem in the search window of Safari involving the inability  
to place a cursor. In the Safari problem, I caused it myself by using  
Monolingual to remove some of the language resources for non-English  
languages, and this wrecked the search window cursor and search  
function. The only solution was to replace the single specific  
language resource file that was stripped; OR reinstall Safari  
completely. I was able to locate the exact file, and posted something  
on Apple Discussions about this issue.

In your case, if you've used Monolingual or a similar program to  
removed excess language resources there's a good chance you've done  
something similar to Finder. It would probably be difficult to locate  
the exact file that would be necessary to fix the problem, so a  
shotgun approach that might work would be to reinstall the last Combo  
Update and hope that refreshes the missing or corrupted file.

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Re: Cursor in Find box problem

[yersinia]

Dorayme writes,



I use Tiger (10.4.9 on G4 Quicksilver 867 and G3/800 iBook)...but I 
almost never use Spotlight -- maybe once or twice a year (on the G4 
only: I've never used it on the iBook), and I don't recall when the last 
time was. I also have no recollection of your cursor problem happening 
to me, so that's why I didn't have a suggestion for you when you 
originally mentioned it.

I "can't" use Leopard because, even though this year I "finally" moved 
"up" to using an OS X native email client (and found a solution to keep 
me from having to occasionally boot in straight OS 9) -- there's still 
some important programs I need Classic Mode for. They're too important 
for me to do without them and there are no OS X versions/no plans to 
develop any.

~Yersinia.

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Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?

[Mac User #330250]

On Sunday, 9th of August 2009, Dennis Myhand wrote:
> Mac User #330250 wrote:
> > Gentoo is the only Linux I know of that has a 64-bit PowerPC port.
>
> I'm a bit confused as to your reason for wanting to do this.  You want
> to run a 64 bit *nix system on a G-5.  I thought that was what OS X was.
> I thought that was why Apple built OS X around the Mach kernel.

Mac OS X 10.4 has a 64-bit kernel to allow access to more than 4 GB of RAM, 
Mac OS X 10.5 has some more 64-bit system software but the majority of the 
operating systems, especially the applications, are 32-bit.

32-bit is not a problem. The G4 was a pure 32-bit processor. The G5 is a 
64-bit processor that can run 32-bit G4 code natively. So, for the G5 it 
doesn't matter if you through 64-bit or 32-bit code at it, it just runs it.

The only problem is that a 32-bit application will always be limited to 4 GB 
addressable memory. So, imagine a Photoshop that has the power to use all the 
16 GB RAM that the "Late 2005" G5 can have. Wouldn't that be great?

So, openSUSE is a Linux operating system, that has a PowerPC port with a 
64-bit kernel for the G5 and a 32-bit userland. Just like Mac OS X.

Gentoo Linux on the other hand leaves you with the choice to set up a system 
with a 64-bit kernel and either a 32-bit or a 64-bit userland. With all its 
advantages and disadvantages.

The advantage of a 64-bit userland is clear: each program and application, 
like GIMP or even server stuff like MySQL and Apache, can use the whole RAM.

The disadvantage: some applications are not 64-bit tested and break, or don't 
compile at all.

> I
> have been using 10.4.11 for about a year now, and have used Linux on
> Intel/AMD PCs since 1998, and the difference between Linux and OS X is
> that Apple pays their programmers more.  A LOT MORE.

Just as I said, OS X is nice. I like it. But I'm used to the Gentoo way, 
meaning, that you *have to* dig deep into the system, compile everything 
yourself and configure all the applications by hand.
When you first set up a system, this is hard work, but once it's running, your 
lucky to have had the choice for all what there is running.

It's the opposite to Mac OS X, or even Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, YDL and 
openSUSE. Their approach is: just install and be going.

>   However, if you
> are truly determined to do this thing, your best hope is on a PPC Linux
> forum where there are people who have successfully done what you seek to
> do.  But (and ymmv) I have run Linux, and I have run OS X, and I much
> prefer OS X for fit, finish, and functionality.  Peace, Dennis

Year.
I wanted to know if one of you ever did it, or if I'm the only "crazy guy" 
around.

Thanks for the answers.
Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?

[Mac User #330250]

On Monday, 10th of August 2009, Ralph Green wrote:
>  I don't think this is something very many users
> will be interested in and I would not recommend it for many people.
Definitely. Not everyone will be interested in such a procedure.

> OSX 
> is prettier than any Linux setup I have seen.  OSX has alway had the
> characteristic that the things it does well are very well done and easy
> to use and the things it does poorly are very hard to figure out and
> use.
I fully agree. What Mac OS X can do it does in a very easy and intuitive way. 
What it can't do - well, that's much harder to manage than on a Linux system.

> Linux has better overall usability for me because Apple does not 
> always fully implement utilities.  For example, samba on my current Mac
> does not work nearly as well as Linux from the same time frame.  Linux
> is much easier to install most utilities on.  The major distros have
> package managers(apt-get, yum, emerge, etc) that each make it a snap to
> install, say Postgresql or Mysql, or many other utilities not from
> Apple.  
> On OSX, if a drag and drop installer is available, it will 
> probably work OK, but you have to go find it somewhere and sometimes
> they are not available.
Have you tried macports and fink yet?
http://www.macports.org/
http://www.finkproject.org/

> The license on Linux is much better and I 
> always feel more comfortable using software with user friendly licenses.
> I am always frustrated when it is time to upgrade OSX because I have to
> stop and read and study multiple lengthy license agreements to see what
> affect they will have on me.  I know most people don't do that, but I am
> picky about the legal agreements I enter into.  On Linux, software uses
> several license that I have studied beforehand and they are not
> regularly removing my rights with new versions of the license, like
> Apple does.  And finally, running Linux is a good idea, just because it
> is there.  I run a bunch of operating systems here at home.  My main one
> is Linux, but I use OSX and it has it's place.  Just trying and learning
> about them has it's own value.
I didn't read Apples Mac OS X license at all. In Austria (where I am from) 
this license is in parts illegal, because according to the law in my country 
a customer has to be informed of this license in the store, before he buys 
the product. Since Apple doesn't print the whole license on the back of the 
Mac OS X DVD box it is not valid. At least in some parts, but I don't know 
which ones.

>   I don't have Linux running on a current Mac.  I last used it regularly
> on a 700 MHz iMac.  I asked on my local Linux mailing list and I'll
> report back to Andreas what I find.  I am pretty sure our Vice President
> runs his main machine as Linux on a dual G5, but I don't know if he uses
> 32 or 64 bit Linux.  He uses plain old Debian.
I'm sure it is a 32-bit userland. The iMac is a G4, so a 32-bit kernel. I'm 
unsure it Debian features a 64-bit userland for the G5...

> Have a good day,
> Ralph
Thanks.
I will consult the Gentoo Linux forum. I was just asking about Linux 
experiences in general and if anyone has had the same thought, to run a true 
64-bit system on a 64-bit processor.

Have also a nice day,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

> The problem with OS X on a G5 is the fact that Apple is abandoning
> support for the PPC Macs, so there won't be any more OS X updates. The
> recent lack of support for Java 1.6 for the PPC Macs is already made
> newer Java programming fail to run on PPC Macs.

But OS X is Unix...install the latest Java in /opt/java or someplace,  
change your JAVA_HOME env var and you're golden. You'll have to run  
some java apps the hard way, via starting them in Terminal, but  
they'll work otherwise.

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Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote:

>>
>> Have a good day,
>> Ralph
> Thanks.
> I will consult the Gentoo Linux forum. I was just asking about Linux
> experiences in general and if anyone has had the same thought, to  
> run a true
> 64-bit system on a 64-bit processor.

My feelings can be summed up in this list of humorous Linux  
Demotivational Posters :-)




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Re: Open Office

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote:

>
> I just went on the Open Office site to download their PPC version.   
> Funny
> thing though was that when you mouse over the "Download Open Office"  
> button
> it says version 3.1.0 for PPC, but then you go through a list of  
> versions
> for all systems and the PPC version available for English is 2.4.0.   
> Anyone
> else experienced this problem?

I thought they'd fixed that by now...here's the PPC port:



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Re: iBook G3/700 & Ubuntu experiment

[Liam Proven]

2009/8/8 Arnel Tuazon :
>
> Well I thought I'd give my old iBook G3 some new life by installing Jaunty
> Jackalope as I kept hearing about Ubuntu and how great it is.  All I can say
> is if you're a regular Joe computer user, Linux is still not for you IMHO.
> I don't understand how an OS (Linux) after all these years and with all the
> past hype still seems like it's in the beta stages as an OS for the masses.
> Ease of use it ain't (well maybe just for Ubuntu as I haven't tried YDL in 4
> years).

I'm sorry to hear you say that, but as a Linux user and occasional
evangelist for 13y now, I have to admit that *as a modern Internet
desktop OS* it is essentially an x86 OS. As a server, it can be just
fine on various non-x86 machines, including PowerPC.

The problem is that although Linux itself is open source, some of the
fairly critical parts of the GUI desktop are not; they are proprietary
binary blobs supplied as freeware by large commercial companies like
Adobe. This applies to a number of things you might reasonably want,
such as the Flash player and Skype and drivers for quite a variety of
hardware. Some other bits, such as Adobe Reader, one can more happily
live without.

Without these, you will have a sub-optimal experience, to say the
least - and alas there is little chance of them ever appearing.

On a very basic x86 PC, Linux is entirely capable of being installed
and used by a non-expert user these days. Indeed it can be better for
"newbies" than for those with a little PC experience. A common problem
is people thinking that they know how to do things on a computer, when
actually, all they know is how /Windows/ does something.

So, for instance, if they want to play RealPlayer, they think "ah! I
need RealPlayer. I'll go to the Real site, download it, install it and
I'll be running." The snag is, that's not the way it works on Linux,
and that method will be very hard, complex, failure-prone and probably
won't work. If they simply stuck "how to play realplayer video on
ubuntu" into Google and followed the instructions, they'd be fine.

Either way, sadly, for a modern distro like Ubuntu, a 700MHz machine
is a low spec. My 1.6GHz PC laptop struggles with Ubuntu!

Frankly, if your Mac can run OS X, you're better off with OS X than
any flavour of Linux. The only exception is if you're trying to build
a server and either can't afford OS X Server or it is not suitable for
the requirement.


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Re: a FW box with a HDD, and a DVD ROM/RW?

[trag]

On Aug 8, 2:19 pm, "t...@io.com"  wrote:

> I think that Intech was a common manufacturer of the boards, so you
> might search a bit on their name and on FireWire.

Initio.  that was Initio, not Intech.   Darned fuzzy memory.  It's
like fruit that's been in the crisper too long.

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Java on PowerMac G5

[Kris Tilford]

WAS topic: "Linux on Power Mac G5?"

On Aug 10, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> But OS X is Unix...install the latest Java in /opt/java or someplace,
> change your JAVA_HOME env var and you're golden. You'll have to run
> some java apps the hard way, via starting them in Terminal, but
> they'll work otherwise.

I don't think this works? AFAIK the latest Intel Java is a different  
version (Java SE6 1.6.0_13) than than latest PPC version (Java SE5  
1.5.0_19). I don't think there is any why to get version 1.6.0_13 to  
run on a PPC Mac. I've tried hard because I use a specific Java  
application (ISS Transit 
Prediction:http://pictures.ed-morana.com/ISSTransits/predictions/) 
  that requires Java SE6 1.6. Luckily for me, the developer had an  
older version that works with Java SE5 1.5, which he recently posted  
because of my predicament. Unfortunately I've also seen many newer  
Java applets on the web for various physics emulations that won't run  
because of this Java version issue.

On my G5 PPC in Terminal I type the command:

java -version

and see:

java version "1.5.0_19"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_19- 
b02-304)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_19-137, mixed mode, sharing)

If you know specific instructions that can update to Java SE6 1.6.0_13  
on a PPC Mac I'm very interested, please post.

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Re: Linux on Power Mac G5?

[Mac User #330250]

On Monday, 10th of August 2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> My feelings can be summed up in this list of humorous Linux
> Demotivational Posters :-)
>
> 

New ironic pictures for Linux geeks. Great!

Thanks,
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Re: Java on PowerMac G5

[Mac User #330250]

Hi!

There is a PowerPC version of Java from IBM, available for Linux, AIX and 
z/OS.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/
You need to register for a download.

The Linux version works okay on Gentoo Linux, at least it did on my previous 
system, a Power Mac G4 MDD.
Available is 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 in both 32-bit and in 64-bit versions.

If such a port will also work in the underlaying Unix of Mac OS X I don't 
know.

It is clear though that Sun's version and Apple's versions of Java 1.6 are 
Intel-only (x86 and maybe x86-64).

Anyway, I'd also be interested in ways to get Java 1.6 on Mac OS X/PPC.
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Open Office vs. NeoOffice

[flo...@gmail.com]

If you need features, get OpenOffice 3; fully Mac-native and fast.

NeoOffice was always slow and buggy. Nevermind that. Feature-wise, it
seems like a buggy, slow AW6.

I am a huge AppleWorks fan...but even that's overkill for me. I've
managed to finish a book using Google Docs shared with my editor.
Before that, I used TextEdit (you'd be surprised what a great SIMPLE
editor it is when you go throught the prefs and set it how you want
it.

I've heard great things about ThinkFree Office. As i've heard, picture
MS Office with all the online features of Google Docs, without the
complexity of the Windows Live! Office part of Office for Windows.

Sounds Complex? I know.

So, depending on features, either TextEdit or OO3. AW6 dates back to
'99 and Neo is buggy and slow. Good luck!

On Aug 8, 11:51 pm, Dana Collins  wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Thank you for the response. You kind of described me, lover of
> AppleWorks, not terribly attached to Pages (though my daughter thinks
> it's great) - I dread the day when AppleWorks is completely unusable.
> Thanks again,
> Dana
>
> On Aug 8, 2:13 pm, Dan  wrote:
>
> > At 10:56 AM -0700 8/8/2009, Dana Collins wrote:
>
> > >how do you folks feel about NeoOffice vs. Open Office (either being
> > >used as a substitute for MS Office)?  Any pros/cons? Preference of
> > >one over the other? I am interested in hearing what you have to say.
>
> > I prefer NeoOffice, because of its mac-native interface.  I put it on
> > all my client's machines, about two years ago.  They use it daily
> > these days and have dumped MS Office.  Can't seem to get anyone
> > excited over Pages or Numbers...
>
> > On older/slower Macs, I still prefer AppleWorks.
>
> > HTH,
> > - Dan.
> > --
> > - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

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[Andy]

Hi, I did post this on the G Book list but no one has responded yet. There
is a some urgency about it so I thought I¹d post the same question here.

Would a G4 iBook DC in board be compatible with a 12² G4 PowerBook i.e.
could I use the DC in board from a G4 iBook in a 12² PowerBook?
Thanks
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DC in board compatibility...

[Andy]

Sorry, I forgot the subject!

Hi, I did post this on the G Book list but no one has responded yet. There
is a some urgency about it so I thought I¹d post the same question here.

Would a G4 iBook DC in board be compatible with a 12² G4 PowerBook i.e.
could I use the DC in board from a G4 iBook in a 12² PowerBook?
Thanks
Andy




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Re: Open Office

[Arnel Tuazon]

On 10/08/09 12:55 PM, "Bruce Johnson"  wrote:

> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:06 PM, Arnel Tuazon wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I just went on the Open Office site to download their PPC version.
>> Funny
>> thing though was that when you mouse over the "Download Open Office"
>> button
>> it says version 3.1.0 for PPC, but then you go through a list of
>> versions
>> for all systems and the PPC version available for English is 2.4.0.
>> Anyone
>> else experienced this problem?
> 
> I thought they'd fixed that by now...here's the PPC port:
> 
> 

Thanks Bruce!  I installed it and yeah it does seem faster than NeoOffice as
others have mentioned.  Hopefully one of these will become my sole Office
app... dare I say so long MS?




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Disk specific / Install specific?

[MacGuy]

here's the question

We all know that the "grey disks" that come with each particular new  
mac are "machine specific" BUT once installed, is that  
installation still bound to that particular mac or can the hard drive  
theoretically be installed into any other mac that supports it and  
booted from it without problems?

I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new  
mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from it).  
Can this be done? Jeff


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Re: Disk specific / Install specific?

[Dennis Myhand]

MacGuy wrote:
> here's the question
> 
>   We all know that the "grey disks" that come with each particular new  
> mac are "machine specific" BUT once installed, is that  
> installation still bound to that particular mac or can the hard drive  
> theoretically be installed into any other mac that supports it and  
> booted from it without problems?
> 
> I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new  
> mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from it).  
> Can this be done? Jeff
> 
> 
> Jeffrey Engle
> macgu...@gmail.com
> 

I think the issue would be that one machine is a G-5 and the other is an 
Intel.  Two different architectures so it probably would not work. 
Someone else may know more about it, but I doubt an Intel based system 
will boot a PPC.  Peace, Dennis

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Re: Disk specific / Install specific?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MacGuy wrote:

>
> here's the question
>
>   We all know that the "grey disks" that come with each particular new
> mac are "machine specific" BUT once installed, is that
> installation still bound to that particular mac or can the hard drive
> theoretically be installed into any other mac that supports it and
> booted from it without problems?
>

Yes, but that key bit is 'that supports it' is the issue here.

> I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new
> mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from it).
> Can this be done? Jeff


Probably not.Much of OSX is universal, but, for example, the expected  
boot partition scheme for PPC and Intel Macs are different.

Generally speaking, if you go from PPC to PPC and Intel to Intel, your  
idea would work, but I really doubt it would work Intel to PPC.

You cannot harm anything by trying, though. It will just not work if  
it won't work.


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Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733

[eMac apple]

  The upgrade went very well. My machine came with Leopard on  
it,Leopard 10.5.7. I'm not sure how the original owner got that on.  
Eventually  I may install 10.5.8 but only after I get a Leopard dvd  
and after some of the bugs have been ironed out of 10.5.8.
  I do know my quicksilver doesn't have it's original 40 gig hard  
drive but has 30 gig Quantom Fireball. Maybe that is how the owner  
installed Leopard.
On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:

>
> On Monday, 3rd of August 2009, ll wrote:
>>I have a Powermac Quick Silver 733 with a 30 gig hard drive and
>> 1.3 gig ram. I just purchased a 933 processor for this on ebay for
>> $40.
>
> How did the upgrade go?
>


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Re: 750GB Seagate PATA is Dropping Out Again (Solved?)

[Bill Connelly]

On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Dan wrote:

>
> At 2:51 PM -0400 8/9/2009, Bill Connelly wrote:
>> 6. Leaving power to monitor and digital keyboard connected / On.
>> Perhaps turning all these off with a dedicated power strip / switch
>> (also a mixer board and amp system) affected the QS's knowledge of  
>> the
>> monitor / ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, giving an occasional ATI card error?
>
> Can you repeatedly sleep and wake (just) the display successfully?
>
> Shouldn't need to sleep the keyboard.

Without removing the PCI card, I cannot try Sleep since my M-Audio  
Delta 2496 does not support it. I believe alone, I was able to Sleep  
the monitor off the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro ME.
>
>> QS's and FW External drives AC/DC warts are on a separate "always on"
>> strip (except during passing electrical storms).
>
> And to where are all these strips connected - same or different  
> circuits?

They're all plugged into the same circuit. They don't all get powered  
on at the same time, but they run successfully off the same line.
>
> I've run into a few situations where people had their systems on one
> set of power strips, then some peripherals on another set --- each
> set connecting to a different circuit (breaker).  The slight diff in
> ground potential between the two circuits made things flaky.

My setup Startup'ed successfully again tonight.

I believe it is finally stable ... at 10.5.7

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2 Questions

[Stephen Conrad]

I have tried to get a power cord for an external HD but have had no luck
I need a 12 volt DC 2.0 Amp power cord for my external Seagate (a gift)

Part No: 9W286D-560
Serial No: 4J68H02

I was told it works when I got it so I just want to see what is on this HD

Also,
I have 4 sticks of:
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS INC
KMM58256BN-8

PULLS DRAM MEMORY MODULE

Info from:
http://www.smtcorp.com/partsearch.php?partno=KMM58256BN-8&exact=exact

What are they used in?


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Re: Disk specific / Install specific?

[MacGuy]

On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

>
>
> On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:04 PM, MacGuy wrote:
>
>>
>> here's the question
>>
>>  We all know that the "grey disks" that come with each particular new
>> mac are "machine specific" BUT once installed, is that
>> installation still bound to that particular mac or can the hard drive
>> theoretically be installed into any other mac that supports it and
>> booted from it without problems?
>>
>
> Yes, but that key bit is 'that supports it' is the issue here.
>
>> I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new
>> mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from  
>> it).
>> Can this be done? Jeff
>
>
> Probably not.Much of OSX is universal, but, for example, the expected
> boot partition scheme for PPC and Intel Macs are different.
>
> Generally speaking, if you go from PPC to PPC and Intel to Intel, your
> idea would work, but I really doubt it would work Intel to PPC.
>
> You cannot harm anything by trying, though. It will just not work if
> it won't work.
>
>

Next question... can I use "migration assistant" to bring all personal  
files/folders/mail/music etc. from the intel to PPC? Jeff

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G4 TOWER

[Bryan Roth]

OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an old G4 
tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD? (I actually bought 
two...one of which is the "good" one--but has no HD--the other one has a HD, 
but is otherwise inferior). I want to take the HD out of the one and install it 
in the other. I can't seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is 
fastened into the case--does it require a special tool to remove?

Thanks...!


  

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Re: G4 TOWER

[Fabian Fang]

On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bryan Roth wrote:

> OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an  
> old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD?  
> (I actually bought two...one of which is the "good" one--but has no  
> HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to  
> take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem  
> to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the  
> case--does it require a special tool to remove?


Here are Apple's CIP instructions with illustrations:



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Re: Cursor in Find box problem

[Gus]

mine does that to.. no idea why... ???

On Aug 10, 1:01 am, dorayme  wrote:
> In the directory of a disk, I have a search box at the top that takes
> text. I am in Tiger latest. I have never been able to type something and
> then go back and insert the cursor at the beginning of the first
> character. The cursor happily goes anywhere else. Anyone had this
> experience and/or know any way of doing it besides inserting the text
> cursor after the first character and deleting back and doing whatever
> you want to do then and reinserting the former first char if need be?
>
> --
> dorayme
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Re: Disk specific / Install specific?

[Kris Tilford]

On Aug 10, 2009, at 6:04 PM, MacGuy wrote:

> I have a 10.5.8 install/backup sata hd (CCC) that was made on a new
> mac mini I need to install it into my G5 tower (and boot from it).
> Can this be done?

I believe Leopard 10.5 is completely "universal", meaning Leopard  
should work on both Intel & PPC. One slight problem perhaps is that  
PPC HDs are normally formatted Apple Partition Scheme and Intel HDs  
are normally GUID. Normally you'd need to create a clone with the  
correct partition scheme. However, there is a way to make a single HD  
partition boot both Intel & PPC Macs. See:

< http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20071026051259471>

> Next question... can I use "migration assistant" to bring all personal
> files/folders/mail/music etc. from the intel to PPC?

Shouldn't be a problem in Leopard as long as the partition scheme is  
correct.

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Fwd: Cursor in Find box problem

[dorayme]

> Date: Mon, Aug 10 2009 3:27 am
> From: Kris Tilford
>
>
> I've never experienced the exact problem you're having, but I had a
> similar problem in the search window of Safari involving the inability
> to place a cursor. In the Safari problem, I caused it myself by using
> Monolingual to remove some of the language resources for non-English
> languages, and this wrecked the search window cursor and search
> function. The only solution was to replace the single specific
> language resource file that was stripped; OR reinstall Safari
> completely. I was able to locate the exact file, and posted something
> on Apple Discussions about this issue.
>
> In your case, if you've used Monolingual or a similar program to
> removed excess language resources there's a good chance you've done
> something similar to Finder. It would probably be difficult to locate
> the exact file that would be necessary to fix the problem, so a
> shotgun approach that might work would be to reinstall the last Combo
> Update and hope that refreshes the missing or corrupted file.

Thanks Kris, I don't think I have used Monolingual? But I may have or  
may have thrown out some fonts? In the URL I gave, did the font seem  
different to what others have?

Anyway, what you and Clark are saying sounds a good clue! I will see  
if it means so much to me that I should dig up the Combo Update. When  
I have finished a few jobs I have and run out of pressing work, I  
probably will!



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Re: 2 Questions

[Ralph Green]

Howdy,
  There is nothing special about the power adapter.  I had one go bad at
a company I used to work for and I just swapped in a spare one we had.
Unfortunately, I don't remember the specs.  Look on the drive and see if
it says whether it needs a regulated power supply or not.  And, did you
get that 2 AMP spec from the old adapter or the drive?  If it is the
adapter, it may be bigger than needed, but was what their supplier had
handy that day.  If it is on the drive, I would not go smaller.
 The things you need to know:
  Voltage: 12V, but is it regulated or not   
  Tip voltage:  Probably, the tip is positive
  Connector size: 2.1mm is common, but I think the Seagate's are smaller

 If you know those, finding a replacement is not usually bad.  I get
good 12V regulated adapters locally for $4.95.  They are 1.5 amp in
capacity with a 2.1MM barrel connector.  If one of those will do, I'll
send you a pointer.  I think they do mail order.If I know more about
the specs of what you need, I'll check when I go back to see what they
have.  I use the 12V, 1.5 amp adapters in firewalls, access points and
switches and they have never given me any problem.
Good day,
Ralph


On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 18:53 -0600, Stephen Conrad wrote:
> I have tried to get a power cord for an external HD but have had no luck
> I need a 12 volt DC 2.0 Amp power cord for my external Seagate (a gift)
> 
> Part No: 9W286D-560
> Serial No: 4J68H02



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Re: Cursor in Find box problem

[Dan]

At 4:01 PM +1000 8/10/2009, dorayme wrote:
>In the directory of a disk, I have a search box at the top that takes
>text. I am in Tiger latest. I have never been able to type something and
>then go back and insert the cursor at the beginning of the first
>character. The cursor happily goes anywhere else.

Bug in Tiger's Finder.  Just click anywhere in the field then hit the 
up arrow, to get to the beginning.

- Dan.
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Re: 2 Questions

[Charles Lenington]

Ralph Green wrote:
> Howdy,
>   There is nothing special about the power adapter.  I had one go bad at
> a company I used to work for and I just swapped in a spare one we had.
> Unfortunately, I don't remember the specs.  Look on the drive and see if
> it says whether it needs a regulated power supply or not.  And, did you
> get t
Have you tried these steps?






what is the name on the box?

does it match one of these? 

http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=product-library&vgnextoid=31f710ae61ba0210VgnVCM101a48090aRCRD



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Re: G4 TOWER

[Geoff Black]

The drive is on a sled which slides downward  and locks onto 3 pins  
on the case. There is a clutchplate on the left of the sled.
Pull that toward you and push the entire sled upward. The whole drive  
jumps out quite suprisingly.

Geoff b
On 11 Aug 2009, at 3:41 AM, Fabian Fang wrote:

>
> On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Bryan Roth wrote:
>
>> OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an
>> old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD?
>> (I actually bought two...one of which is the "good" one--but has no
>> HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to
>> take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't seem
>> to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into the
>> case--does it require a special tool to remove?
>
>
> Here are Apple's CIP instructions with illustrations:
> 
>
>
> >


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Re: G4 TOWER

[Geoff Black]

From: bla...@telkomsa.net
Subject:Re: G4 TOWER
Date:   11 August 2009 8:47:33 AM
To:   g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

The drive is on a sled which slides downward  and locks onto 3 pins  
on the case. There is a clutchplate on the left of the sled.
Pull that toward you and push the entire sled upward. The whole drive  
jumps out quite suprisingly.
On 11 Aug 2009, at 2:53 AM, Bryan Roth wrote:

>
> OK, this is probably a really stupid question, but I just bought an  
> old G4 tower (450 Mhz), and I was wondering how one removes the HD?  
> (I actually bought two...one of which is the "good" one--but has no  
> HD--the other one has a HD, but is otherwise inferior). I want to  
> take the HD out of the one and install it in the other. I can't  
> seem to see how the original factory-installed HD is fastened into  
> the case--does it require a special tool to remove?
>
> Thanks...!
>
>
>
>
> >


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