[galaxy-dev] XLS TO CSV

2014-08-04 Thread Mert Mehnur KIRKALI
Hello,

How can i convert xls file to csv file on galaxy ?

Is that possible ?

Best Regards,Mert.
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Re: [galaxy-dev] XLS TO CSV

2014-08-04 Thread Björn Grüning

Hi,

not tat I know. But you can export your xls in Excel as tab separated 
file. Galaxy can handle such tab-delimited files.


Cheers,
Bjoern

Am 04.08.2014 um 14:56 schrieb Mert Mehnur KIRKALI:

Hello,

How can i convert xls file to csv file on galaxy ?

Is that possible ?

Best Regards,Mert.



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Re: [galaxy-dev] XLS TO CSV

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Cock
Hi Mert,

Most of the Galaxy tools dealing with tables of data use tabular
format (tab separated variables), not csv (comma separated
variables). CVS is a horrible horrible mess of formats, see e.g.
http://tburette.github.io/blog/2014/05/25/so-you-want-to-write-your-own-CSV-code/

Also beware that anything other than MS Excel could be
confused by quirks in the Excel format, e.g. multiple ways
to record dates: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/180162

I would personally save each tab of the Excel sheet as tab
separated data, and import those into Galaxy.

Peter

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Mert Mehnur KIRKALI
mertmehnurkirk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 How can i convert xls file to csv file on galaxy ?

 Is that possible ?

 Best Regards,Mert.

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Re: [galaxy-dev] XLS TO CSV

2014-08-04 Thread Eric Rasche
Hi Peter,

On 08/04/2014 09:25 AM, Peter Cock wrote:
 Hi Mert,
 
 Most of the Galaxy tools dealing with tables of data use tabular
 format (tab separated variables), not csv (comma separated
 variables). CVS is a horrible horrible mess of formats, see e.g.
 http://tburette.github.io/blog/2014/05/25/so-you-want-to-write-your-own-CSV-code/

This annoyed me when I was first starting out with galaxy, I really wish
it'd be labelled TSV. The labels all read CSV so I gave galaxy CSV
data and galaxy didn't like it, much to my confusion.

Also, most (biologists) I work with use the term CSV very generically
without regard to the differences between the two.

 Also beware that anything other than MS Excel could be
 confused by quirks in the Excel format, e.g. multiple ways
 to record dates: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/180162
 
 I would personally save each tab of the Excel sheet as tab
 separated data, and import those into Galaxy.

Would it not make sense to have an XLS - TSV datatype converter? I'm
sure many biologists would appreciate being able to use the in-galaxy
version as opposed to having to open+re-save all of their data.

Cheers,
Eric

 Peter
 
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Mert Mehnur KIRKALI
 mertmehnurkirk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 How can i convert xls file to csv file on galaxy ?

 Is that possible ?

 Best Regards,Mert.

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Re: [galaxy-dev] XLS TO CSV

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Cock
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Eric Rasche rasche.e...@yandex.ru wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 On 08/04/2014 09:25 AM, Peter Cock wrote:
 Hi Mert,

 Most of the Galaxy tools dealing with tables of data use tabular
 format (tab separated variables), not csv (comma separated
 variables). CVS is a horrible horrible mess of formats, see e.g.
 http://tburette.github.io/blog/2014/05/25/so-you-want-to-write-your-own-CSV-code/

 This annoyed me when I was first starting out with galaxy, I really wish
 it'd be labelled TSV. The labels all read CSV so I gave galaxy CSV
 data and galaxy didn't like it, much to my confusion.

Which labels say CSV at the moment?

(And yes, I would also have preferred tsv to tabular as the datatype
name in Galaxy, that way it would match the typical file extension).

 Also, most (biologists) I work with use the term CSV very generically
 without regard to the differences between the two.

I've seen that too - but people saying CSV when they mean TSV
will unavoidable cause confusion.

 Also beware that anything other than MS Excel could be
 confused by quirks in the Excel format, e.g. multiple ways
 to record dates: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/180162

 I would personally save each tab of the Excel sheet as tab
 separated data, and import those into Galaxy.

 Would it not make sense to have an XLS - TSV datatype converter? I'm
 sure many biologists would appreciate being able to use the in-galaxy
 version as opposed to having to open+re-save all of their data.

It makes sense to me to offer a tool mapping one Excel sheet to
multiple tabular output files (one per sheet). How best to write
this will depend on the platform and available dependencies
(e.g. some of the R converters for this are Windows only IIRC).

Peter
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