Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it
Awesome. I just installed and registered it. Now to mess with it. Hahaha. -- From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it Hi Bryan, Well, personally I would strongly recommend that anyone interested in Visual Basic at least give Visual Basic 2008 a try. It is free, and contains many of the features Jim Kitchen mentioned earlier. As for Visual Basic 6 you can still get it used from some place like Ebay, but why would you really want to? We are talking Windows 98 era stuff, and if you are looking at something that is more with the times VB 2008 is a newer and better solution. One major advantage VB 2008 has over VB 6 is an improved object oriented design like C++, Java, etc with the same ease of use as VB 6. Though, before I go I want to give this little disclaimer. You really should be running at least Jaws 7 or higher to be able to use the VB 2008 IDE. I've used it with Jaws 9 and it works fine. I have not tried it with Jaws 4.02 and I am not all that sure I'd want to. Last time I encountered Jaws 4.02 with some of the apps I was running on XP speech output royally sucked with Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla Thunderbird, Nero 7, and some of the other apps I am using. Hense the upgrade to Jaws 8 now 9. Bryan Peterson wrote: Can you still find it anywhere? Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] monkey term question
I'm playing around with setting up a few triggers for a mud I'm playing, using monkey term as the client. their are certain instances where instead of jaws talking, I want SAPI to speak, I.E. when the computer on a starship says something. We know the computer talks, because it's always proceeded by a set of text, I.E. a female bvoice says, or something like that, then whatever it said. I don't want to here a female voice sys I want that to be silent, but whenever that comes up, I want sapi just to read what it said. If tihs is meant for a different list, I sincerely apologize, but this was my first shot, and I apologize again if this is O.T. Thanks. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] monkey term question
you should probably use mushclient because monkeyterm is not vista compatible. At 07:50 p.m. 10/04/2008, you wrote: I'm playing around with setting up a few triggers for a mud I'm playing, using monkey term as the client. their are certain instances where instead of jaws talking, I want SAPI to speak, I.E. when the computer on a starship says something. We know the computer talks, because it's always proceeded by a set of text, I.E. a female bvoice says, or something like that, then whatever it said. I don't want to here a female voice sys I want that to be silent, but whenever that comes up, I want sapi just to read what it said. If tihs is meant for a different list, I sincerely apologize, but this was my first shot, and I apologize again if this is O.T. Thanks. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] monkey term question
Actually, I'm using Vista and it works fine. I had to run it as administrator for the registry stuff to work though, and then I had to use a GMA game to register the jfwapi.dll stuff. -- From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey term question you should probably use mushclient because monkeyterm is not vista compatible. At 07:50 p.m. 10/04/2008, you wrote: I'm playing around with setting up a few triggers for a mud I'm playing, using monkey term as the client. their are certain instances where instead of jaws talking, I want SAPI to speak, I.E. when the computer on a starship says something. We know the computer talks, because it's always proceeded by a set of text, I.E. a female bvoice says, or something like that, then whatever it said. I don't want to here a female voice sys I want that to be silent, but whenever that comes up, I want sapi just to read what it said. If tihs is meant for a different list, I sincerely apologize, but this was my first shot, and I apologize again if this is O.T. Thanks. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] monkey term question
I'm not on a vista machine. Thanks. shane - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] monkey term question you should probably use mushclient because monkeyterm is not vista compatible. At 07:50 p.m. 10/04/2008, you wrote: I'm playing around with setting up a few triggers for a mud I'm playing, using monkey term as the client. their are certain instances where instead of jaws talking, I want SAPI to speak, I.E. when the computer on a starship says something. We know the computer talks, because it's always proceeded by a set of text, I.E. a female bvoice says, or something like that, then whatever it said. I don't want to here a female voice sys I want that to be silent, but whenever that comes up, I want sapi just to read what it said. If tihs is meant for a different list, I sincerely apologize, but this was my first shot, and I apologize again if this is O.T. Thanks. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] monkey term question
Hi, I don't know how to make it switch synthesizers, but there's a way to filter out words so you end up with differetn phraises by using substitutions. You'd just need to filter out the part that says the computer says, and you'd be left with the text of what it's saying. Here's an example. This is the substitution for flight control in Miriani. You should be able to get the basic idea from this. Pattern: ^A \w+ flight control scanner announces, (.+)$ Commands: % Play General/Comm/FlightScanner.ogg %%1 hth -- From: Shane Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:50 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] monkey term question I'm playing around with setting up a few triggers for a mud I'm playing, using monkey term as the client. their are certain instances where instead of jaws talking, I want SAPI to speak, I.E. when the computer on a starship says something. We know the computer talks, because it's always proceeded by a set of text, I.E. a female bvoice says, or something like that, then whatever it said. I don't want to here a female voice sys I want that to be silent, but whenever that comes up, I want sapi just to read what it said. If tihs is meant for a different list, I sincerely apologize, but this was my first shot, and I apologize again if this is O.T. Thanks. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it
Hi Thomas, Isn't Visual Basic 2008 the whole object oriented thing and not at all like the Basic languages that one might be used to and love to use? Didn't you also once say that one can not compile and distribute the executable file with it? Who cares if VB6 is 98 era if it still works and really no one playing the game would ever know the difference. - Original Message - Hi Bryan, Well, personally I would strongly recommend that anyone interested in Visual Basic at least give Visual Basic 2008 a try. It is free, and contains many of the features Jim Kitchen mentioned earlier. As for Visual Basic 6 you can still get it used from some place like Ebay, but why would you really want to? We are talking Windows 98 era stuff, and if you are looking at something that is more with the times VB 2008 is a newer and better solution. One major advantage VB 2008 has over VB 6 is an improved object oriented design like C++, Java, etc with the same ease of use as VB 6. Though, before I go I want to give this little disclaimer. You really should be running at least Jaws 7 or higher to be able to use the VB 2008 IDE. I've used it with Jaws 9 and it works fine. I have not tried it with Jaws 4.02 and I am not all that sure I'd want to. Last time I encountered Jaws 4.02 with some of the apps I was running on XP speech output royally sucked with Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla Thunderbird, Nero 7, and some of the other apps I am using. Hense the upgrade to Jaws 8 now 9. Bryan Peterson wrote: Can you still find it anywhere? Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim C programmers don't have the BASIC instincts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] my super deekout game play.
That's odd. I can click the link just fine. Make sure there aren't any spaces before or after the link. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] my super deekout game play. The page cannot be displayed The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings. --- Laughter is the best medicine. Look around you and find a dose. - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] my super deekout game play. I was bored tonight, so I decided since everyone has super deekout now I'd record a little game play file for people to enjoy. Let me know what you think. suggestions for improvement are welcome! http://www.sendspace.com/file/9zbojl --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Sryth-help
Hi all. I am really stok, what ever i do did i only find death. I think my Character need some traning, but dont know what to do, my Character are available for Hawklor The Giants, Part II: Stonesong* The Hunted Man* Sevenhorn Rise of the Frost Demon * Tallys's Cottage The Missing Hilt* Thane Pyrond Trouble in Werrit* The Bog Giant*. My only problem what ever i try of this event did i find my death. So only 2 questions, how did i kill the Frost Demon? And how can i complete the Adventures for Thane Pyrond? My stats are: Melee Rating 68/68 Stamina 107/107 Nevernal Rsv. 17/17. Agility 14 above avg Might 20 superhuman Body 20 superhuman Aura 19 incredible Mind 13 above avg Spirit 20 superhuman Luck 20 superhuman. My only Power is Shadow Magic at level 60. And my Skills is: Archery Level 60, Thievery Level 50, Weaponry Level 70, Weaponry: Bashing level 40, Weaponry: Hacking Level 60, Weaponry: Stabbing Level 40, Weaponry: Troll-Bont Level 10, And Woodsmanship Level 60. Please help, what can i do for complete this things? Thanks for enny help. All the best. Jimmy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] super deekout cheats
Hi, If I ever manqage to get to 2000 points or more, will my points, will my cheats file work with other people's games on their computers? or will it only work with mine? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] super deekout question again.
Hi, Is it possible to ever win super deekout and kill the robot permanently? Or is this one of those see how many points you can get type of games? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] super deekout question again.
It's the latter. It just keeps going and gets harder indefinitely. A true arcade-style game. Michael Feir Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: http://www.blindspots.net/blog.php?user=13 - Original Message - From: jeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: [Audyssey] super deekout question again. Hi, Is it possible to ever win super deekout and kill the robot permanently? Or is this one of those see how many points you can get type of games? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] current high score
Hi, On 10:44AM eastern time on April 10, 2008, my high score was 1105111 points! Has anybody gotten to 200 yet? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] super deekout new high score now!
Hi, Ok my latest high score on super deekout is: 1693195 points! I'm gunna play later tonight to see if i can reach 200 points to get the cheats file. Those bullets are pretty easy to avoid on easy difficulty. Or, I better read the manual again. Maybe I have to be on normal difficulty to get the cheats... I'm not sure I'll go and read now. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] super deekout new high score now!
It's 200 on normal that is needed. Original message: Hi, Ok my latest high score on super deekout is: 1693195 points! I'm gunna play later tonight to see if i can reach 200 points to get the cheats file. Those bullets are pretty easy to avoid on easy difficulty. Or, I better read the manual again. Maybe I have to be on normal difficulty to get the cheats... I'm not sure I'll go and read now. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it
Hi Jim, Quote Isn't Visual Basic 2008 the whole object oriented thing and not at all like the Basic languages that one might be used to and love to use? End quote If you are asking if Visual Basic 2008 is object oriented rather than procedural programming that is correct. It is very rare now days to find a programming language that does not in some way use object oriented design and techniques. It is the foundation of modern programming design, and there is several very good reasons why programmers have migrated to an object oriented design mottle. That said Visual Basic 2008 is not totally different from what you know and love. For example, a simple print message sub would look like this. ' VB 2008 print message sub. Public Sub PrintMessage(message As String) TextBox1,.Text = message End Sub So with your current knowledge of Visual Basic 6 you already know most of the basic things like creating subs, if statements, loops, bla. All you would have to learn is how to use the .Net Framework which is the foundation of Visual Basic 2008, and to design your programs with a object oriented mottle in mind. Since you have been totally a procedural programmer you might have a bit of a tougher time adapting to the new concepts than someone coming at this totally fresh. However, you do have the advantage of knowing how to design an if statement so that would certainly aid someone like you in getting up to speed. Quote Didn't you also once say that one can not compile and distribute the executable file with it? End quote No, I did not. With Visual Basic Express 2008, which is free, you can certainly build and redistribute fully working executable and *library files. The only major diference between Visual Basic Express and Visual Basic Pro that would concern us is that the Pro versions of Visual Basic 2008 come with Microsoft Setup Installer, Dotfuscator, Microsoft Source Safe, Microsoft SQL Pro, etc. Most of that you wouldn't probably even miss though the tools are pretty handy to work with if you have them. Quote Who cares if VB6 is 98 era if it still works and really no one playing the game would ever know the difference. End quote Well, to be honest this has been an issue you and I have never agreed upon, and perhaps never will. The problem lies in the fact that there are personal reasons as well as technical ones behind our opinions here. This dramatically influences how we think and feel about a topic like this. Your general opinion of technology changes has been a view of who cares if the old still works. The problem I personally find with the who cares opinion is you are really talking about your own personal opinion and not an opinion of the blind gaming community as a whole. I am sure there are plenty of blind gamers on this list that share your opinion and are quite satisfied using Jaws 4.02, Visual Basic 6, Windows XP, etc. However, there is also others on the list, such as myself, who want to move on and take advantage of the new technologies out there for us. Weather you agree or not Visual Basic 6 is at the end of its life cycle and mainstream companies are migrating away from its use, and new technologies such as Visual Basic 2008 is replacing it which are more compatible for Windows Vista and beyond. Many blind gamers are moving on, such as myself, and I find myself frustrated by your general opinions of the newer technologies. For example, Windows Vista comes with much tighter security policies in place over Windows XP, and one of these features is user account control. It so happens that there are several accessible games that conflict with user account control. I know many blind gamers that simply disable user account control management so their games will run correctly as under XP. As a developer myself I feel forcing a user to disable his or her security to play a game is definitly the wrong way to go about solving the problem. It makes the end users system less secure, and it doesn't really solve the problem. It would be better if the programmer takes it upon him or herself and bring his/her programs up to technical specifications rather than simply ignoring the problem. In my personal case I decided I wanted user account control to remain enabled because I want that extra layer of security Vista provides. In addition I increased my security setting to run as standard user, rather than admin, and my Vista machine is very security conscious. More so than I suspect than your own setup is. SO I had to find a work around for games like yours that weren't really up to tech specs for Vista. I discovered after trile and error that by installing them to my user\home directory that they worked just fine with user account control though I would have prefered you had addressed and corrected the reasons they were crashing on my system. Now, as a developer myself I understand what you are thinking here. I chose to increase the system
[Audyssey] super deekout helpful tips
Hi, I have some tips I found in the manual. they are not really tips, but key commands that may help get you more points. 1. pressing letter m turns off and on whether you hear all coins or just a certain number of coins to target. so, if I start the game and as soon as my level1 starts, quickly hit m1: I will only hear the nearest coin that can be targeted. This helps me get more coins in a shorter amount of time, rather than hearing all 20 some coins at once. pressing t lets you hear the elapsed time, shift speaks your current score and h or y I think speaks the current high score for that level. Oh yeah! alt page-up, and alt page-down, turns up and down the volume of the music. it helps to really read the manual before you play. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] super deekout
Hi, Well, it will be awhile before I reach 200 points in super deekout normal difficulty level. It's hard as ever to even get to level 3 or four! How do I or how can I tell where one of those bad level dropping items is at? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] super deekout cheats
well don't know to everyone p On 4/10/08, jeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If I ever manqage to get to 2000 points or more, will my points, will my cheats file work with other people's games on their computers? or will it only work with mine? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] super deekout cheats
may I poste my cheats here? On 4/10/08, Ryan Chou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well don't know to everyone p On 4/10/08, jeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If I ever manqage to get to 2000 points or more, will my points, will my cheats file work with other people's games on their computers? or will it only work with mine? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it
well I don't program myself but if I can get away with it I usually get it. So you will see me upgrading all the freebees I can, and if I can I may just stuff something that shouldn't stuff into a computer in that, and if it crashes, then obviously I can't, but if not I can. I have stuffed 98 into a 95 rated system and xp into a 98 rated system. And sometimes it worked better than the old os. Its a pitty vista is the way it is otherwise I may just stuff vista into my xp system. I wish microsoft kept dcm because if they did guess what I'd be stuffing. Dcm is not the only issue but its the main reason I have not upgraded nor will upgrade until such point I can no longer get an xp licence or my system totally craps out on me. Correction, I know within 3 months I can not get an xp licence which is why I may get a new system and put this old one on backup. I actually wouldn't be supprised if I manage to miss vista out all together and instead get the system after. Windows me was a real dud and the new vista tech is a bit on that side to. Bugs that were all ok in xp exist in vista, not sure with the latest service pack, but still. At 07:34 a.m. 11/04/2008, you wrote: Hi Jim, Quote Isn't Visual Basic 2008 the whole object oriented thing and not at all like the Basic languages that one might be used to and love to use? End quote If you are asking if Visual Basic 2008 is object oriented rather than procedural programming that is correct. It is very rare now days to find a programming language that does not in some way use object oriented design and techniques. It is the foundation of modern programming design, and there is several very good reasons why programmers have migrated to an object oriented design mottle. That said Visual Basic 2008 is not totally different from what you know and love. For example, a simple print message sub would look like this. ' VB 2008 print message sub. Public Sub PrintMessage(message As String) TextBox1,.Text = message End Sub So with your current knowledge of Visual Basic 6 you already know most of the basic things like creating subs, if statements, loops, bla. All you would have to learn is how to use the .Net Framework which is the foundation of Visual Basic 2008, and to design your programs with a object oriented mottle in mind. Since you have been totally a procedural programmer you might have a bit of a tougher time adapting to the new concepts than someone coming at this totally fresh. However, you do have the advantage of knowing how to design an if statement so that would certainly aid someone like you in getting up to speed. Quote Didn't you also once say that one can not compile and distribute the executable file with it? End quote No, I did not. With Visual Basic Express 2008, which is free, you can certainly build and redistribute fully working executable and *library files. The only major diference between Visual Basic Express and Visual Basic Pro that would concern us is that the Pro versions of Visual Basic 2008 come with Microsoft Setup Installer, Dotfuscator, Microsoft Source Safe, Microsoft SQL Pro, etc. Most of that you wouldn't probably even miss though the tools are pretty handy to work with if you have them. Quote Who cares if VB6 is 98 era if it still works and really no one playing the game would ever know the difference. End quote Well, to be honest this has been an issue you and I have never agreed upon, and perhaps never will. The problem lies in the fact that there are personal reasons as well as technical ones behind our opinions here. This dramatically influences how we think and feel about a topic like this. Your general opinion of technology changes has been a view of who cares if the old still works. The problem I personally find with the who cares opinion is you are really talking about your own personal opinion and not an opinion of the blind gaming community as a whole. I am sure there are plenty of blind gamers on this list that share your opinion and are quite satisfied using Jaws 4.02, Visual Basic 6, Windows XP, etc. However, there is also others on the list, such as myself, who want to move on and take advantage of the new technologies out there for us. Weather you agree or not Visual Basic 6 is at the end of its life cycle and mainstream companies are migrating away from its use, and new technologies such as Visual Basic 2008 is replacing it which are more compatible for Windows Vista and beyond. Many blind gamers are moving on, such as myself, and I find myself frustrated by your general opinions of the newer technologies. For example, Windows Vista comes with much tighter security policies in place over Windows XP, and one of these features is user account control. It so happens that there are several accessible games that conflict with user account control. I know many blind gamers that simply disable user account control management so their games will run correctly as under
Re: [Audyssey] super deekout cheats
Hi Ryan, Personally, I would like you not too. there is nothing stopping you from doing so though. the best thing is for people to contact you off list to request this info. if you do decide to, please put spoiler space before your posting. One letter per line. This gives a person the ability to not read the message if they don't want to. I am going to get the game later and try it myself. so that is why I don't want them. Rich - Original Message - From: Ryan Chou Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:05 PM may I poste my cheats here? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Star Wars article
Hi list, I dont know how many have heard about the Star Wars TV series, but you can check out the article at the following website. Web address is: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=2743736b-098f-441a-aaa 5-0b0888bb3724entry=index I hope it doesn't turn up like many of the other remakes or from Movie-to-TV shows such as the Sarah Chronicles. and from what I read it sounds like it just might be. However, maybe it will give Tom or others interested in the Star Wars legacy some new ideas for games in the future. AC E! News - Star Wars TV Series Coming Soon - George Lucas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars article
Hi, that link has taken up two lines here with window-eyes. Can you go to www.tinyurl.com and make a smaller link using that? Thanks, Josh - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Star Wars article Hi list, I don't know how many have heard about the Star Wars TV series, but you can check out the article at the following website. Web address is: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=2743736b-098f-441a-aaa 5-0b0888bb3724entry=index I hope it doesn't turn up like many of the other remakes or from Movie-to-TV shows such as the Sarah Chronicles. and from what I read it sounds like it just might be. However, maybe it will give Tom or others interested in the Star Wars legacy some new ideas for games in the future. AC E! News - Star Wars TV Series Coming Soon - George Lucas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it
Hey thom, Where can vb 2008 express be had from? And yes I will be subscribing to the dev list over at usagames, as soon as I can dig up the info. Thanks. Shane - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Visual Basic 6 reasons why I love it Hi Jim, Quote Isn't Visual Basic 2008 the whole object oriented thing and not at all like the Basic languages that one might be used to and love to use? End quote If you are asking if Visual Basic 2008 is object oriented rather than procedural programming that is correct. It is very rare now days to find a programming language that does not in some way use object oriented design and techniques. It is the foundation of modern programming design, and there is several very good reasons why programmers have migrated to an object oriented design mottle. That said Visual Basic 2008 is not totally different from what you know and love. For example, a simple print message sub would look like this. ' VB 2008 print message sub. Public Sub PrintMessage(message As String) TextBox1,.Text = message End Sub So with your current knowledge of Visual Basic 6 you already know most of the basic things like creating subs, if statements, loops, bla. All you would have to learn is how to use the .Net Framework which is the foundation of Visual Basic 2008, and to design your programs with a object oriented mottle in mind. Since you have been totally a procedural programmer you might have a bit of a tougher time adapting to the new concepts than someone coming at this totally fresh. However, you do have the advantage of knowing how to design an if statement so that would certainly aid someone like you in getting up to speed. Quote Didn't you also once say that one can not compile and distribute the executable file with it? End quote No, I did not. With Visual Basic Express 2008, which is free, you can certainly build and redistribute fully working executable and *library files. The only major diference between Visual Basic Express and Visual Basic Pro that would concern us is that the Pro versions of Visual Basic 2008 come with Microsoft Setup Installer, Dotfuscator, Microsoft Source Safe, Microsoft SQL Pro, etc. Most of that you wouldn't probably even miss though the tools are pretty handy to work with if you have them. Quote Who cares if VB6 is 98 era if it still works and really no one playing the game would ever know the difference. End quote Well, to be honest this has been an issue you and I have never agreed upon, and perhaps never will. The problem lies in the fact that there are personal reasons as well as technical ones behind our opinions here. This dramatically influences how we think and feel about a topic like this. Your general opinion of technology changes has been a view of who cares if the old still works. The problem I personally find with the who cares opinion is you are really talking about your own personal opinion and not an opinion of the blind gaming community as a whole. I am sure there are plenty of blind gamers on this list that share your opinion and are quite satisfied using Jaws 4.02, Visual Basic 6, Windows XP, etc. However, there is also others on the list, such as myself, who want to move on and take advantage of the new technologies out there for us. Weather you agree or not Visual Basic 6 is at the end of its life cycle and mainstream companies are migrating away from its use, and new technologies such as Visual Basic 2008 is replacing it which are more compatible for Windows Vista and beyond. Many blind gamers are moving on, such as myself, and I find myself frustrated by your general opinions of the newer technologies. For example, Windows Vista comes with much tighter security policies in place over Windows XP, and one of these features is user account control. It so happens that there are several accessible games that conflict with user account control. I know many blind gamers that simply disable user account control management so their games will run correctly as under XP. As a developer myself I feel forcing a user to disable his or her security to play a game is definitly the wrong way to go about solving the problem. It makes the end users system less secure, and it doesn't really solve the problem. It would be better if the programmer takes it upon him or herself and bring his/her programs up to technical specifications rather than simply ignoring the problem. In my personal case I decided I wanted user account control to remain enabled because I want that extra layer of security Vista provides. In addition I increased my security setting to run as standard user, rather than admin, and my Vista machine is very security conscious. More so than I suspect than your own setup is. SO I had to find a work around for games like yours
Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars article
Hi, You can just copy the first line into your browser, than copy the second line and paste it at the end of the first part. HTH Sean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeh Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars article Hi, that link has taken up two lines here with window-eyes. Can you go to www.tinyurl.com and make a smaller link using that? Thanks, Josh - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Star Wars article Hi list, I don't know how many have heard about the Star Wars TV series, but you can check out the article at the following website. Web address is: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=2743736b-098f-441a-aaa 5-0b0888bb3724entry=index I hope it doesn't turn up like many of the other remakes or from Movie-to-TV shows such as the Sarah Chronicles. and from what I read it sounds like it just might be. However, maybe it will give Tom or others interested in the Star Wars legacy some new ideas for games in the future. AC E! News - Star Wars TV Series Coming Soon - George Lucas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Fw: Re: Star Wars article
Sorry about that. Here's the new and much shorter link. smile http://tinyurl.com/6gtywc Enjoy! and thanks Josh for the new website utility. AC - Forwarded message -- From: jeh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:07:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Star Wars article Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, that link has taken up two lines here with window-eyes. Can you go to www.tinyurl.com and make a smaller link using that? Thanks, Josh - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Star Wars article Hi list, I don't know how many have heard about the Star Wars TV series, but you can check out the article at the following website. Web address is: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=2743736b-098f-441a-aaa 5-0b0888bb3724entry=index I hope it doesn't turn up like many of the other remakes or from Movie-to-TV shows such as the Sarah Chronicles. and from what I read it sounds like it just might be. However, maybe it will give Tom or others interested in the Star Wars legacy some new ideas for games in the future. AC E! News - Star Wars TV Series Coming Soon - George Lucas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
