Re: [Audyssey] Rem Statements
Hi Thomas, Actually the opposite is true, my compiled executable files are always much larger than my source code files. But that was not my point at all. It is that some times the source code file compiles larger than other source code and vice versa. Such as; starmule frm 43,936 bytes spanker frm 70,513 bytes spanker exe163,840 bytes STARMULE EXE237,568 bytes BFN Jim Hey you know that Mac you got, is it a big Mac? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA - Original Message - Hi Jim, The things I mentioned such as line indentions etc were examples only of the kinds of things that get stripped when compiling. As I said when it gets converted from source to an executable all the words in your source code regardless of its a variable name, function name, etc is converted into ones and zeros and point to addresses only rather than actual code. Not sure that I can explain it clearly, but executable files will always be smaller than the original source because the compiler only keeps what is necessary to pass the instructions to the CPU. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] looking for SC soundpacks for mushclient
Popping out of lurkdom for two seconds. I am looking for a decent mushclient soundpack useable on Star Conquest. For that matter, a modifyable Miriani one would do if I knew how to make the modifications. I think the SC hosts have said in the past that soundpack discussion was disallowed, so I can't even ask on the boards in game. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Betty --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for SC soundpacks for mushclient
Contact me off list mmaslo...@charter.net Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Mongwen mong...@gmail.com wrote: Popping out of lurkdom for two seconds. I am looking for a decent mushclient soundpack useable on Star Conquest. For that matter, a modifyable Miriani one would do if I knew how to make the modifications. I think the SC hosts have said in the past that soundpack discussion was disallowed, so I can't even ask on the boards in game. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Betty --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Chillingham Question
Greetings Gamers! I decided to give Chillingham a run since its been years since i played it, and I am kinda stuck. S P O I L E R Alert. Just in case. I know I need to fill the balloons with water to throw at the witch but I cannot recall how to get past the vampire on the road to the swamp, which I think is where I need to go to fill the balloons. But This is where I can not recall how to get past. Thanks for any and All suggestions and tips. Later! Sly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham Question
S P O I L E R S P A C E You gotta get the stakes that the antique shop owner will give you after you defeat the termites - they are the recked pieces of the chair. Hth. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sylvester Thomas Sent: 20 February 2012 18:36 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Chillingham Question Greetings Gamers! I decided to give Chillingham a run since its been years since i played it, and I am kinda stuck. S P O I L E R Alert. Just in case. I know I need to fill the balloons with water to throw at the witch but I cannot recall how to get past the vampire on the road to the swamp, which I think is where I need to go to fill the balloons. But This is where I can not recall how to get past. Thanks for any and All suggestions and tips. Later! Sly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4821 - Release Date: 02/20/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4821 - Release Date: 02/20/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Rem Statements
Hi Jim, HI see what you mean. I wonder if perhaps when VB compiles your executable files if it does statically link some libraries resulting in the extra file size. I know if I statically link some lib files, compile them directly into the executable, naturally my exe file is larger because of the statically linked libraries. For instance, all of my games written in C++ statically link to a library named g3d.lib. The g3d.lib library is my Genesis Engine. Obviously, any games I write will be larger when compiled because the lib gets compiled directly into the executable as well as the source. I'm thinking VB probably has some default static libs it includes automatically that might account for the extra file size. I'm not sure, but that's my theory. :D Cheers! On 2/20/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Actually the opposite is true, my compiled executable files are always much larger than my source code files. But that was not my point at all. It is that some times the source code file compiles larger than other source code and vice versa. Such as; starmule frm 43,936 bytes spanker frm 70,513 bytes spanker exe163,840 bytes STARMULE EXE237,568 bytes BFN Jim Hey you know that Mac you got, is it a big Mac? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] How to get Metris?
Hello, I went to the Metris homepage from audiogames.net. When I got there I click on the link that said register click here, but when I did I got a page can not be display error. Does anyone know if this game is nolonger being supported or is the game free now? Thanks! -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Chillingham Question
And of course you have to get the silver bullets, again from the antique store owner. On 2/20/12, Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk wrote: S P O I L E R S P A C E You gotta get the stakes that the antique shop owner will give you after you defeat the termites - they are the recked pieces of the chair. Hth. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sylvester Thomas Sent: 20 February 2012 18:36 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Chillingham Question Greetings Gamers! I decided to give Chillingham a run since its been years since i played it, and I am kinda stuck. S P O I L E R Alert. Just in case. I know I need to fill the balloons with water to throw at the witch but I cannot recall how to get past the vampire on the road to the swamp, which I think is where I need to go to fill the balloons. But This is where I can not recall how to get past. Thanks for any and All suggestions and tips. Later! Sly --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4821 - Release Date: 02/20/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2113/4821 - Release Date: 02/20/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] western game
Hi, I'm in a mood to strike out in to new game genres and was wondering, a while back I heard of a western game, I can't remember it's name or where to get it or anything. If anyone has any information about this game I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] western game
Hi David. The game westward can be found at http://www.apolitical.info/webgame/westward this involves taking a train of wagons across america and is I believe similar at least in style and setting to the old origan traile game that's so often mentioned on list. Then there is the mississippi game from Mardy software. this is a turn based economic stratogy where you buy and sell goods around the old west and eventually try to become president. It's mostly text based but has lots of music and sounds as well. See http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=mississippi for more information. I must confess I found mississippi a little disappointing as a single player game though it struck me as possibly more fun multiplayer, however sinse you could only have a multiplayer game at the same computer rather than across the internet this is a bit of a drawback. Then there are several western interactive fiction games, seE http://www.wurb.com/if/genre/18 FOR A LIST. Finally of course, there are those audio games with a western theme in usually an arcade setting, such as Esp pinball classic and pinball party pack Wild west tables, and grizly gulch from Bavisoft (though good luck acquiring that one. Hth. Beware the grue! Dark - Original Message - From: David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: [Audyssey] western game Hi, I'm in a mood to strike out in to new game genres and was wondering, a while back I heard of a western game, I can't remember it's name or where to get it or anything. If anyone has any information about this game I'd appreciate it. Thanks. Dave. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] entombed questions
HI, The saved games are in a folder called saved games. This is under your my documents or documents, depending on what operating system you are using. As for the unlockable cards. the first 2 mentioned below are no secret. The goblin card can be found just about anywhere in the dungeon. After a battle, it will fall to the ground. Just pick it up. the crystal card, to unlock the fortune teller, is gotten after defeating the drake on the 7th floor. The next 2 cards are a secret. S P O I L E R S P A C E Read no further unless you really want to know. now that that is over. It has been some time on these, so hopefully they are correct. The nature card, to unlock the druid, is a combination of ranger healer. Just choose the two jobs together in any way and it will unlock this card. The sapphire card, to unlock the adventurer, is to have a wander thief combo. Again, in any order. HTH. Rich - Original Message - From: Jess Varnell rory0...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:17 PM Hi list. I was looking through my games folder and started playing entombed again. I forgot how fun it is. lol. Anyway, I just have a couple of questions. How do you unlock all the cards? Second of all, where does it store my saved games? Thanks in advance for your help. jess --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Rem Statements
Thomas and Jim, Most of the time, the executable size is dominated by the linked in libraries, which are usually a lot bigger than the source. However, the size of the executable is very dependent on the programming language used and can be either bigger or smaller than the source code depending on the language. The target machine is also a big factor in the executable size. For example, assembly language programs almost always compile down to smaller machine code; however, basic programs almost always compile down to much larger programs than the original source, even including comments. This is because assembly language is a very detailed, low level language, wheras in basic a single print statement can require hundreds or thousands of instructions to be compiled correctly. As a real world example, the Alter Aeon server code is written in c++, and the source code size is 9.5 megabytes. The final executable is 14.3 megabytes. This is a particularly good example, because the server uses very few libraries and is the executable size is almost completely server code instead of library code. This is on a 64 bit linux machine. Our previous host server was a 32 bit server, and on 32 bit machines the executable size would only be about ten megabytes instead of 14. In summary, It's really hard to make general assumptions about executable versus code size like 'compiled code is always smaller than the source'. The different languages and architectures allow for extremely wide variation. Just FYI. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jim, HI see what you mean. I wonder if perhaps when VB compiles your executable files if it does statically link some libraries resulting in the extra file size. I know if I statically link some lib files, compile them directly into the executable, naturally my exe file is larger because of the statically linked libraries. For instance, all of my games written in C++ statically link to a library named g3d.lib. The g3d.lib library is my Genesis Engine. Obviously, any games I write will be larger when compiled because the lib gets compiled directly into the executable as well as the source. I'm thinking VB probably has some default static libs it includes automatically that might account for the extra file size. I'm not sure, but that's my theory. :D Cheers! On 2/20/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote: Hi Thomas, Actually the opposite is true, my compiled executable files are always much larger than my source code files. But that was not my point at all. It is that some times the source code file compiles larger than other source code and vice versa. Such as; starmule frm 43,936 bytes spanker frm 70,513 bytes spanker exe 163,840 bytes STARMULE EXE 237,568 bytes BFN Jim Hey you know that Mac you got, is it a big Mac? j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] airik walkthrough?
hi all has anyone gotten an airik the clerik walkthrough? thanks to all WIll --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
