Re: [Audyssey] Looking for iOS games.

2013-07-27 Thread Chris H

Check out
www.applevis.com


On 27/07/2013 04:54, michael barnes wrote:

Hello, All iOS gamers.
I just played Solara on the iPhone, and I was wondering if someone would
please give me a list of games on the iPhone that is simular to Solara?
Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for iOS games.

2013-07-27 Thread michael barnes

Hello, Chris.
First thanks for the info.
However I am not sure were to go on that site that will tell me what 
games are simular to other games.

Can you help me with that?
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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for iOS games.

2013-07-27 Thread Chris H

Sure! Click on the iOs apps link, then click on the games link.

On 27/07/2013 08:41, michael barnes wrote:

Hello, Chris.
First thanks for the info.
However I am not sure were to go on that site that will tell me what
games are simular to other games.
Can you help me with that?
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Re: [Audyssey] New Monopoly Empire board game

2013-07-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,

Thanks for letting us know about this new Monopoly game. I've asked my
wife to keep a look out for it, and to get it if we can afford it.
This sounds like exactly what I was looking for in terms of a new
accessible game project.

I've been pondering the idea of writing some open source games that
would run on Mac, Linux, and Windows, and something like this Empire
Monopoly is just perfect for what I have in mind. However, as there
are so many accessible versions of classic Monopoly already such as
Jim Kitchen's Monopoly, RS Games Monopoly, etc I didn't really want to
rewrite something that already existed. However, this new Monopoly
Empire game would allow me to create something like Monopoly, but
different enough to be its own game.

Cheers!



On 7/26/13, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 Here is something new for Jim Kitchen to create,
 Hasbro MONOPOLY EMPIRE
 Own the world's top brands in the Monopoly Empire game!
 Choose one of the uniquely branded gold tokens, move around the board and
 start building your Empire! Buy your favorite brands one by one and slide
 their billboards onto your Empire tower: the game is a race to the top!
 Collect rent from your rivals based on your tower height. And be the first
 player to fill your tower with billboards to win!


 Play is similar to classic Monopoly, but instead of building a property
 empire, you're tasked with buying up key brands and adding them to your
 'Empire Tower'. Buy, trade and take over brands with Empire cards.

 With the Monopoly Empire game, you can own some of the biggest brands in the

 world! Every space on the board is an iconic brand, including Xbox,
 Coca-Cola, McDonald's and Samsung! Splash your Monopoly cash to build your
 Empire tower as high as it can go. You'll need to make tough decisions and
 smart moves to take down the competition and be the first to reach the top.

 Hit the big time and own the world's top brands with the Monopoly Empire
 game!

 Features:
 Buy and trade the world's top brands and be first to the top!
 Cool brand tokens
 Fast, fun gameplay
 Watch the Monopoly Empire towers rise and fall
 2-4 players
 Six new tokens, McDonald's fries, Coca-Cola bottle, Xbox gamepad, Ducati
 motorcycle, Corvette car, Paramount director's board,  as playable tokens.
 Ages 8 and up


 Monopoly Empire includes:
 Board
 4 towers
 6 new gold tokens
 30 billboard tiles
 6 office tiles
 14 chance cards
 Monopoly money
 14 Empire Cards
 2 dice
 Instructions.
 The estimated retail price for MONOPOLY EMPIRE Game is $19.



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Re: [Audyssey] Importing wrestlers to wrestling game.

2013-07-27 Thread michael barnes

Here is the two wrestling games.
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Re: [Audyssey] Importing wrestlers to wrestling game.

2013-07-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

Sorry, but you can not send attachments to the list. Mailman will
strip them from the messages. In any case I have located my copies of
Piledriver and Wrestling League Simulator. Thanks for trying to post
them though.

Cheers!



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 Here is the two wrestling games.
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Re: [Audyssey] Looking for iOS games.

2013-07-27 Thread MamaPeach

To get to the games on AppleVis, use the following link:
http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/games

-Original Message- 
From: Chris H

Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:50 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Looking for iOS games.

Sure! Click on the iOs apps link, then click on the games link.

On 27/07/2013 08:41, michael barnes wrote:

Hello, Chris.
First thanks for the info.
However I am not sure were to go on that site that will tell me what
games are simular to other games.
Can you help me with that?
Thanks!

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[Audyssey] Accessible fruit machine for iPhone question

2013-07-27 Thread Sarah Haake

Hi,

I just got the accessible fruit machine from the App store today and played 
a bit. I also listened to the podcast on applevis, and as far as I 
understood it the game should start with 6 symbols and you have to unlock 
the others by getting enough points. The strange thing is, that I seem to 
have all the symbols from the start. I can set the symbols in play to 16 and 
they all show up on the reels, in the prices list there are only seven 
symbols listed though.


Was the game changed so that unlocking symbols is no longer necessary or is 
this a bug?


Thanks for any help and best regards
Sarah


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Re: [Audyssey] Accessible fruit machine for iPhone question

2013-07-27 Thread Charles Rivard
As you score better, the number of available symbols increases.  Each time 
you beat your high score, another symbol is added.  I think mine is 
currently at 25 or so.


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From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible fruit machine for iPhone question



Hi,

I just got the accessible fruit machine from the App store today and 
played a bit. I also listened to the podcast on applevis, and as far as I 
understood it the game should start with 6 symbols and you have to unlock 
the others by getting enough points. The strange thing is, that I seem to 
have all the symbols from the start. I can set the symbols in play to 16 
and they all show up on the reels, in the prices list there are only seven 
symbols listed though.


Was the game changed so that unlocking symbols is no longer necessary or 
is this a bug?


Thanks for any help and best regards
Sarah


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[Audyssey] AppleVis.com and AudioGames.net in a new world

2013-07-27 Thread Dakotah Rickard
I'm sorry, but I finally have to post on this.
AppleVis is a terrific resource. It's a place to find out which apps are 
accessible and which are not, though I questioned the wisdom of having a 
category of completely unusable apps, unless the apps are going to be the 
subject of one of their petitioning campaigns, as it.ought to be inferred that 
if an app isn't listed as accessible, it's either not accessible or the 
community doesn't know about it.
Frankly, I'm more than a little fed up with all iOS questions getting the 
catch-all answer of Go check AppleVis. First of all, AppleVis is a resource, 
not the only resource. Second, people seem to read that the message is about 
Apple products and automatically mention AppleVis, no matter what the message 
is actually about, like some sort of broken pop-up ad. Many of the messages 
are, in fact, looking for relevant human advice on a forum specifically created 
to talk about gaming within the visually impaired community.
Now, I could understand if the person sending the query had just purchased a 
new Apple device. In fact, I would support mentioning AppleVis at that point, 
because it's a great resource, which everyone should know about.
The other problem with so heavily relying on AppleVis is that Apple isn't the 
PC, and AppleVis isn't AudioGames.net. What I mean is this:
Apple itself, and therefore its partners, subsidiaries, and developer 
community, are more conscious of accessibility as an on-going concern than are 
the respective Windows and PC equivalents. What I'm getting at is that, simply 
because accessibility is both more conscious and easier, people are more likely 
to add it, purposefully or not, as a product feature. Except for MUDs and 
similar niche market text adventures and the occasional browser game, 
AudioGames.net is largely populated by purpose-built games, usually but not 
always developed by people in our blind community. The Games that aren't on 
AudioGames.net aren't usually playable for us, or playing them is quite a bit 
more difficult, simply due to lack of sight.
AppleVis is a bit like AudioGames.net, in that it too is a community of mostly 
visually impaired people discussing games. Granted, AppleVis has a larger 
scope, including all AppStore categories, but they are similar as relates to 
games.
The difference, as I have  illustrated, is that in relying on only one PC 
resource, we aren't really missing out on any accidentally discovered gold 
mines, but we will be, if we treat Apple resources similarly, and the 
autopilot, Everyman answer to just check AppleVis is a big step down a short 
road in that direction.
Please don't waste this golden opportunity which we now have, to integrate our 
isolated community into the world at large by falling into the comfortable 
prison of old habit. 

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard


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Re: [Audyssey] Are there any programmers out there that can helpwith c++ questions?

2013-07-27 Thread James Bartlett

Cool thank you I'll have to check that one out.

bfn
James

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helpwith c++ questions?




I've directed many newcomers to LearnCPP.com, which is a good resource for 
learning some of the basics of C++ coding.


HTH.

On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi James,

I don't know of anything that teaches you to develop in C++
specifically from a blind persons point of view, but any good book
should teach you the basics without getting too visual. One book I
would highly recommend is Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days by Jesse
Liberty. The 4th edition of the book is all up to date, and takes you
from absolute newbie to an intermediate user of the language. It is
laid out as a three week course, IE 21 days, in which you begin with
simple Hello World type programs and work your way up to more advanced
applications. One place you could read the book is on the Safari site
http://safari.oreilly.com
with a 14 day free trial subscription.


Cheers!

On 7/21/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

   First let me say thank you for replying. I've tried to research the 
c++


code but I can't make heads or tails of it. All the stuff that I do find 
is


all visual and makes no sense. is there a place that I can go to 
research

where to get started from a blind persons point?

thank you again bfn
James



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Re: [Audyssey] New Monopoly Empire board game

2013-07-27 Thread James Bartlett

hello

   That sounds like a cool game to me. I would like to see that one out 
there one day.


bfn
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] New Monopoly Empire board game


Hi Folks,
Here is something new for Jim Kitchen to create,
Hasbro MONOPOLY EMPIRE
Own the world's top brands in the Monopoly Empire game!
Choose one of the uniquely branded gold tokens, move around the board and 
start building your Empire! Buy your favorite brands one by one and slide 
their billboards onto your Empire tower: the game is a race to the top! 
Collect rent from your rivals based on your tower height. And be the first 
player to fill your tower with billboards to win!



Play is similar to classic Monopoly, but instead of building a property 
empire, you're tasked with buying up key brands and adding them to your 
'Empire Tower'. Buy, trade and take over brands with Empire cards.


With the Monopoly Empire game, you can own some of the biggest brands in 
the world! Every space on the board is an iconic brand, including Xbox, 
Coca-Cola, McDonald's and Samsung! Splash your Monopoly cash to build your 
Empire tower as high as it can go. You'll need to make tough decisions and 
smart moves to take down the competition and be the first to reach the 
top. Hit the big time and own the world's top brands with the Monopoly 
Empire game!


Features:
Buy and trade the world's top brands and be first to the top!
Cool brand tokens
Fast, fun gameplay
Watch the Monopoly Empire towers rise and fall
2-4 players
Six new tokens, McDonald's fries, Coca-Cola bottle, Xbox gamepad, Ducati 
motorcycle, Corvette car, Paramount director's board,  as playable tokens.

Ages 8 and up


Monopoly Empire includes:
Board
4 towers
6 new gold tokens
30 billboard tiles
6 office tiles
14 chance cards
Monopoly money
14 Empire Cards
2 dice
Instructions.
The estimated retail price for MONOPOLY EMPIRE Game is $19.



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Re: [Audyssey] New Monopoly Empire board game

2013-07-27 Thread Angela Delicata

very nice. I'd like to have it too. Hope it'll be done.
Angela from Italy


Il 27/07/2013 19:35, James Bartlett ha scritto:

hello

That sounds like a cool game to me. I would like to see that one out
there one day.

bfn
James

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Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:48 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] New Monopoly Empire board game


Hi Folks,
Here is something new for Jim Kitchen to create,
Hasbro MONOPOLY EMPIRE
Own the world's top brands in the Monopoly Empire game!
Choose one of the uniquely branded gold tokens, move around the board
and start building your Empire! Buy your favorite brands one by one
and slide their billboards onto your Empire tower: the game is a race
to the top! Collect rent from your rivals based on your tower height.
And be the first player to fill your tower with billboards to win!


Play is similar to classic Monopoly, but instead of building a
property empire, you're tasked with buying up key brands and adding
them to your 'Empire Tower'. Buy, trade and take over brands with
Empire cards.

With the Monopoly Empire game, you can own some of the biggest brands
in the world! Every space on the board is an iconic brand, including
Xbox, Coca-Cola, McDonald's and Samsung! Splash your Monopoly cash to
build your Empire tower as high as it can go. You'll need to make
tough decisions and smart moves to take down the competition and be
the first to reach the top. Hit the big time and own the world's top
brands with the Monopoly Empire game!

Features:
Buy and trade the world's top brands and be first to the top!
Cool brand tokens
Fast, fun gameplay
Watch the Monopoly Empire towers rise and fall
2-4 players
Six new tokens, McDonald's fries, Coca-Cola bottle, Xbox gamepad,
Ducati motorcycle, Corvette car, Paramount director's board,  as
playable tokens.
Ages 8 and up


Monopoly Empire includes:
Board
4 towers
6 new gold tokens
30 billboard tiles
6 office tiles
14 chance cards
Monopoly money
14 Empire Cards
2 dice
Instructions.
The estimated retail price for MONOPOLY EMPIRE Game is $19.



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Re: [Audyssey] AppleVis.com and AudioGames.net in a new world

2013-07-27 Thread Charles Rivard

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

The purpose of the listings of apps that are not accessible is so that 
people don't pay for an app and then find it of no use due to a lack of 
accessibility, or to let people know that a given app is not accessible. 
These, unfortunately, are found by trial and error.  Pioneers were the 
first to be located by arrows. as the saying goes.


I find this site to be a good source of info, since the articles and 
podcasts are done by visually impaired users of the devices and apps 
discussed, so you are getting first hand knowledge.


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From: Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] AppleVis.com and AudioGames.net in a new world



I'm sorry, but I finally have to post on this.
AppleVis is a terrific resource. It's a place to find out which apps are 
accessible and which are not, though I questioned the wisdom of having a 
category of completely unusable apps, unless the apps are going to be the 
subject of one of their petitioning campaigns, as it.ought to be inferred 
that if an app isn't listed as accessible, it's either not accessible or 
the community doesn't know about it.
Frankly, I'm more than a little fed up with all iOS questions getting the 
catch-all answer of Go check AppleVis. First of all, AppleVis is a 
resource, not the only resource. Second, people seem to read that the 
message is about Apple products and automatically mention AppleVis, no 
matter what the message is actually about, like some sort of broken pop-up 
ad. Many of the messages are, in fact, looking for relevant human advice 
on a forum specifically created to talk about gaming within the visually 
impaired community.
Now, I could understand if the person sending the query had just purchased 
a new Apple device. In fact, I would support mentioning AppleVis at that 
point, because it's a great resource, which everyone should know about.
The other problem with so heavily relying on AppleVis is that Apple isn't 
the PC, and AppleVis isn't AudioGames.net. What I mean is this:
Apple itself, and therefore its partners, subsidiaries, and developer 
community, are more conscious of accessibility as an on-going concern than 
are the respective Windows and PC equivalents. What I'm getting at is 
that, simply because accessibility is both more conscious and easier, 
people are more likely to add it, purposefully or not, as a product 
feature. Except for MUDs and similar niche market text adventures and the 
occasional browser game, AudioGames.net is largely populated by 
purpose-built games, usually but not always developed by people in our 
blind community. The Games that aren't on AudioGames.net aren't usually 
playable for us, or playing them is quite a bit more difficult, simply due 
to lack of sight.
AppleVis is a bit like AudioGames.net, in that it too is a community of 
mostly visually impaired people discussing games. Granted, AppleVis has a 
larger scope, including all AppStore categories, but they are similar as 
relates to games.
The difference, as I have  illustrated, is that in relying on only one PC 
resource, we aren't really missing out on any accidentally discovered gold 
mines, but we will be, if we treat Apple resources similarly, and the 
autopilot, Everyman answer to just check AppleVis is a big step down a 
short road in that direction.
Please don't waste this golden opportunity which we now have, to integrate 
our isolated community into the world at large by falling into the 
comfortable prison of old habit.


Signed:
Dakotah Rickard


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Re: [Audyssey] AppleVis.com and AudioGames.net in a new world

2013-07-27 Thread Dallas O'Brien
I think, the point is this. applevis is fantastic. yes. but it is not
the only way of learning stuff about IOS stuff, let alone IOS games
that we can play. simply due to the fact that apple and many of its
platforms are accessible, we have many access points to work with.
where as in the windows world, our games tend to be a very limited
market.

one thing i will note here though, just for interest. the windows
world, is not the pc world. mac's are pc's as well. lol. I do see, how
ever, where this message is coming from.

Dallas


On 28/07/2013, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 I'm not sure what you're getting at.

 The purpose of the listings of apps that are not accessible is so that
 people don't pay for an app and then find it of no use due to a lack of
 accessibility, or to let people know that a given app is not accessible.
 These, unfortunately, are found by trial and error.  Pioneers were the
 first to be located by arrows. as the saying goes.

 I find this site to be a good source of info, since the articles and
 podcasts are done by visually impaired users of the devices and apps
 discussed, so you are getting first hand knowledge.

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 errors!
 - Original Message -
 From: Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:11 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] AppleVis.com and AudioGames.net in a new world


 I'm sorry, but I finally have to post on this.
 AppleVis is a terrific resource. It's a place to find out which apps are
 accessible and which are not, though I questioned the wisdom of having a
 category of completely unusable apps, unless the apps are going to be the

 subject of one of their petitioning campaigns, as it.ought to be inferred

 that if an app isn't listed as accessible, it's either not accessible or
 the community doesn't know about it.
 Frankly, I'm more than a little fed up with all iOS questions getting the

 catch-all answer of Go check AppleVis. First of all, AppleVis is a
 resource, not the only resource. Second, people seem to read that the
 message is about Apple products and automatically mention AppleVis, no
 matter what the message is actually about, like some sort of broken pop-up

 ad. Many of the messages are, in fact, looking for relevant human advice
 on a forum specifically created to talk about gaming within the visually
 impaired community.
 Now, I could understand if the person sending the query had just purchased

 a new Apple device. In fact, I would support mentioning AppleVis at that
 point, because it's a great resource, which everyone should know about.
 The other problem with so heavily relying on AppleVis is that Apple isn't

 the PC, and AppleVis isn't AudioGames.net. What I mean is this:
 Apple itself, and therefore its partners, subsidiaries, and developer
 community, are more conscious of accessibility as an on-going concern than

 are the respective Windows and PC equivalents. What I'm getting at is
 that, simply because accessibility is both more conscious and easier,
 people are more likely to add it, purposefully or not, as a product
 feature. Except for MUDs and similar niche market text adventures and the

 occasional browser game, AudioGames.net is largely populated by
 purpose-built games, usually but not always developed by people in our
 blind community. The Games that aren't on AudioGames.net aren't usually
 playable for us, or playing them is quite a bit more difficult, simply due

 to lack of sight.
 AppleVis is a bit like AudioGames.net, in that it too is a community of
 mostly visually impaired people discussing games. Granted, AppleVis has a

 larger scope, including all AppStore categories, but they are similar as
 relates to games.
 The difference, as I have  illustrated, is that in relying on only one PC

 resource, we aren't really missing out on any accidentally discovered gold

 mines, but we will be, if we treat Apple resources similarly, and the
 autopilot, Everyman answer to just check AppleVis is a big step down a
 short road in that direction.
 Please don't waste this golden opportunity which we now have, to integrate

 our isolated community into the world at large by falling into the
 comfortable prison of old habit.

 Signed:
 Dakotah Rickard


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Re: [Audyssey] AppleVis.com and AudioGames.net in a new world

2013-07-27 Thread Trouble
I don't question it, because if that app is not accessible and  is 
not going to be. Then I don't have to pay for it. Apple is not one 
known for a refund policy. So if you have a problem with that take it 
up with Apple.
As far as the site goes they deal with all things Apple. There are 
other places that deal with PC stuff and never the two show mix, its 
apples and oranges.


At 01:11 PM 7/27/2013, you wrote:

I'm sorry, but I finally have to post on this.
AppleVis is a terrific resource. It's a place to find out which apps 
are accessible and which are not, though I questioned the wisdom of 
having a category of completely unusable apps, unless the apps are 
going to be the subject of one of their petitioning campaigns, as 
it.ought to be inferred that if an app isn't listed as accessible, 
it's either not accessible or the community doesn't know about it.
Frankly, I'm more than a little fed up with all iOS questions 
getting the catch-all answer of Go check AppleVis. First of all, 
AppleVis is a resource, not the only resource. Second, people seem 
to read that the message is about Apple products and automatically 
mention AppleVis, no matter what the message is actually about, like 
some sort of broken pop-up ad. Many of the messages are, in fact, 
looking for relevant human advice on a forum specifically created to 
talk about gaming within the visually impaired community.
Now, I could understand if the person sending the query had just 
purchased a new Apple device. In fact, I would support mentioning 
AppleVis at that point, because it's a great resource, which 
everyone should know about.
The other problem with so heavily relying on AppleVis is that Apple 
isn't the PC, and AppleVis isn't AudioGames.net. What I mean is this:
Apple itself, and therefore its partners, subsidiaries, and 
developer community, are more conscious of accessibility as an 
on-going concern than are the respective Windows and PC equivalents. 
What I'm getting at is that, simply because accessibility is both 
more conscious and easier, people are more likely to add it, 
purposefully or not, as a product feature. Except for MUDs and 
similar niche market text adventures and the occasional browser 
game, AudioGames.net is largely populated by purpose-built games, 
usually but not always developed by people in our blind community. 
The Games that aren't on AudioGames.net aren't usually playable for 
us, or playing them is quite a bit more difficult, simply due to lack of sight.
AppleVis is a bit like AudioGames.net, in that it too is a community 
of mostly visually impaired people discussing games. Granted, 
AppleVis has a larger scope, including all AppStore categories, but 
they are similar as relates to games.
The difference, as I have  illustrated, is that in relying on only 
one PC resource, we aren't really missing out on any accidentally 
discovered gold mines, but we will be, if we treat Apple resources 
similarly, and the autopilot, Everyman answer to just check AppleVis 
is a big step down a short road in that direction.
Please don't waste this golden opportunity which we now have, to 
integrate our isolated community into the world at large by falling 
into the comfortable prison of old habit.


Signed:
Dakotah Rickard


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Re: [Audyssey] Accessible fruit machine for iPhone question

2013-07-27 Thread Sarah Haake

Hi,

hmm, ok. I thought you'd get a notification if you unlock a new symbol, but 
it doesn't seem so. Thanks for the info then. *smiles*


Best regards
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Re: [Audyssey] Accessible fruit machine for iPhone question

2013-07-27 Thread Charles Rivard
You do get a notification when a new symbol is unlocked.  It happens when 
you attain a new high score.


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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible fruit machine for iPhone question



Hi,

hmm, ok. I thought you'd get a notification if you unlock a new symbol, 
but it doesn't seem so. Thanks for the info then. *smiles*


Best regards
Sarah


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