[Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More
Hi, NOTE: this post is sort of way too nerdy for this list, but I thought I’d send it anyway, for the wanna-be coder’s general delight. Now that BGT is FREE I thought I’d try and see if I could write a wrapper for my screen reader abstraction library so that my screen reader of choice (SuperNova) could be supported by games written using this toolkit. I also like having as many wrappers as possible for my library, to make people’s lives easier if they use something that isn’t C++. So trying out BGT sounded like a good idea to spend a Thursday morning. Anyway, turns out BGT is into ANSI where strings are concerned. So naturally I have some questions: - Is there a way to call external DLLs that use Unicode strings (which is what Windows has been doing for a real long time). - If not, is there any chance BGT can gain native support for SuperNova and maybe also ZoomText? Opensourcing the thing sounds like a fun idea, though I see several issues with that too and don’t intend on starting that debate here and now. Just wondered if there’s a way to deal with Unicode strings that doesn’t involve depriving Philip of a few hours of sleep. Using int or long might work, but then still you’d need to convert these into a string object, and those are ANSI so they’ll pout at you real bad and then bluntly refuse. Note that I use Java myself, and not necessarily for games, so this is not a message saying “HELP GUYS I AM STUCK AND ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS RESOLVED OR ELSE I CANNOT WRITE MY GAME!!!” I just want to provide as many wrappers for my DLL as I can without overdoing it, and BGT is definitely a big thing in the blind gamers community. That reminds me, I should probably try to do AutoIt too. Anyone know if that allows you to call DLLs in a non-evil way? Thanks, Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Blindfold racer for iOS Crashing on My iPod touch g5
Well Dallas, racing isn't exactly my preferd genre of games anyway, so an arcade style game wouldn't bother me. As you said if it is free I miht as well try the thing. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
H, I've never had a media player reffuse to play a file due to size, and I've got some books in mp3 that are around 10 hours in a single file. Then again I do mostly use winamp, and only ever use Windows mediaplayer for ripping cds, so it is entirely possible that this is a wmp specific thing. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording Ah ok, only sometimes if my windows media player can't play a file, I get a message talling me the file extention is too big, so just wondered if that would be the same thing. From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording Hi. As far as I'm aware the mail server would reject the message and it'd bounce, that is if it got sent at all. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording Hi Dark, out of interest, what would happen if I sent someone a file which was too big to be attatched? I usually use dropbox, but was just curious to know what would happen if a computer tried to play a sound file attatchement which was too big. From Lori. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 8:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording Hi Leo, All you have to do is click on the link and download the file using your web browser. I am afraid I fail to see the problem. You do have a web browser on that computer don't you? As far as e-mailing it as an attachment that is unlikely. The mp3 is around 60 MB or so and would be a bit large to attach to an e-mail. That's why services like Sendspace, Rapidshare, Dropbox, etc exist so you can use your web browser to download the file from a sharing site rather than get it via an attachment. Cheers! On 6/4/14, leo largel1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, I don't know how to download with Sendspace as I can't run EXE's on this computer. Could you please attach the file to an email? My address is largel1...@gmail.com Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
Ah yes, 60 gb would be quite the fiet of verbosity ever for me, sinse that would be about a thousand hours of gameplay! Likewise, I actually think you could probably finish smugglers 3, ie, get the best ship, win the cessession war, get all the ranks about 50 times over in that time as well. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
Hi Dark, When I am on Windows I use Windows Media Player all the time for listening to books and things and I also have some stuff in mp3 format that are several hours long and they play just fine in WMP. So I am a bit unsure as to why Lori would have any problems playing a large file. I know WMP in particular streams large files by loading a small chunk into memory, plays it, loads another chunk into memory, etc until the entire file is played rather than loading the entire file into memory so size shouldn't be an issue. Cheers! On 6/5/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: H, I've never had a media player reffuse to play a file due to size, and I've got some books in mp3 that are around 10 hours in a single file. Then again I do mostly use winamp, and only ever use Windows mediaplayer for ripping cds, so it is entirely possible that this is a wmp specific thing. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
this is something that has been asked on the audiogames.net forum which I can't answer, but sinse I know Kelly and several people have played traders in smugglers 4 and 5 I assume there is an answer. In Smugglers 4 and 5 the trade window comes up in the center of the screen. The way trading works is you click a commodity, such as medical or engines, then click the main screen to move the window out of the way, look at the planets on the nav screen and their prices and travel around, then click trade again to bring up the menue. Clicking close on the trade window will close it altogether and not show the prices on the nav screen. Sighted players can drag and drop the trade window out of the way, but for Vi players it's necessary to minimize it by clicking the main screen. In Supernova I can use ctrl tab to switch between windows, this is a pretty common command with the dolphin curser, but I have no idea what the same command in NVda is. So to anyone who has played Smugglers 4 and 5 with NVda, particularly who has done a lot of trading, how do you get out of the trade window and back to the main screen? I would be surprised if Nvda doesn't have a switch window screen for it's virtual curser, sinse this is quite a common command I've noticed in other programs, but as I said not using NVda myself I don't know what it is and it is sort of necessary for trading. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Searching for online games.
What is the best way to search for accessible online games? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Searching for online games.
Go to audiogames.net and whitestick.co.uk, however I believe you've already checked both of the major lists there. other than that it's unfortunately a matter of using google, and with canvasing and other inaccessible html practices becoming annoyingly common your chances of finding something accessible and new aren't high, and even if you do find something odds are it'll be a mod of torn city, Kingdom of loathing, Eternal duel or Alien adoption agency. I'm not saying there is nothing at all, but if your using google be prepared for a lot of frustration wading through inaccessible or highly uninteresting games. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:26 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Searching for online games. What is the best way to search for accessible online games? Lindsay Cowell. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
Hi Dark, In NVDA the virtual cursor is simply called the review cursor. It also has commands to move the mouse cursor which is what you need here. To get out of the trade window back to the main window, the parent window, you need to do insert+numpad8. To return to the trade window do insert+numpad2. To click on the parent window after moving to it do insert+numpad enter. This is of course assuming someone is using the desktop commands not laptop mode. HTH On 6/5/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: this is something that has been asked on the audiogames.net forum which I can't answer, but sinse I know Kelly and several people have played traders in smugglers 4 and 5 I assume there is an answer. In Smugglers 4 and 5 the trade window comes up in the center of the screen. The way trading works is you click a commodity, such as medical or engines, then click the main screen to move the window out of the way, look at the planets on the nav screen and their prices and travel around, then click trade again to bring up the menue. Clicking close on the trade window will close it altogether and not show the prices on the nav screen. Sighted players can drag and drop the trade window out of the way, but for Vi players it's necessary to minimize it by clicking the main screen. In Supernova I can use ctrl tab to switch between windows, this is a pretty common command with the dolphin curser, but I have no idea what the same command in NVda is. So to anyone who has played Smugglers 4 and 5 with NVda, particularly who has done a lot of trading, how do you get out of the trade window and back to the main screen? I would be surprised if Nvda doesn't have a switch window screen for it's virtual curser, sinse this is quite a common command I've noticed in other programs, but as I said not using NVda myself I don't know what it is and it is sort of necessary for trading. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
Hi Tom. Thanks for that. I was certain there was a way for Nvda to handle this sort of thing, but sinse I haven't used Nvda myself I didn't know what the correct command was. I'm also pleased there is a way around this sinse it means that the tutorial, and all in game trading is accessible with nvda as it is with Supernova. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More
Right, figured out the AutoIt part: it's possible and seems to work well. Right now, where games are concerned, I'm only missing BGT. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Davy Kager Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:02 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More Hi, NOTE: this post is sort of way too nerdy for this list, but I thought I’d send it anyway, for the wanna-be coder’s general delight. Now that BGT is FREE I thought I’d try and see if I could write a wrapper for my screen reader abstraction library so that my screen reader of choice (SuperNova) could be supported by games written using this toolkit. I also like having as many wrappers as possible for my library, to make people’s lives easier if they use something that isn’t C++. So trying out BGT sounded like a good idea to spend a Thursday morning. Anyway, turns out BGT is into ANSI where strings are concerned. So naturally I have some questions: - Is there a way to call external DLLs that use Unicode strings (which is what Windows has been doing for a real long time). - If not, is there any chance BGT can gain native support for SuperNova and maybe also ZoomText? Opensourcing the thing sounds like a fun idea, though I see several issues with that too and don’t intend on starting that debate here and now. Just wondered if there’s a way to deal with Unicode strings that doesn’t involve depriving Philip of a few hours of sleep. Using int or long might work, but then still you’d need to convert these into a string object, and those are ANSI so they’ll pout at you real bad and then bluntly refuse. Note that I use Java myself, and not necessarily for games, so this is not a message saying “HELP GUYS I AM STUCK AND ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS RESOLVED OR ELSE I CANNOT WRITE MY GAME!!!” I just want to provide as many wrappers for my DLL as I can without overdoing it, and BGT is definitely a big thing in the blind gamers community. That reminds me, I should probably try to do AutoIt too. Anyone know if that allows you to call DLLs in a non-evil way? Thanks, Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More
Hi Davy, The foundation of BGT is Ansi, which is a sort of historical accident from back when I first started the project. I did not envision it ever needing Unicode because it was primarily meant to use audio and any printed text would be mostly for debugging. There was no Sapi support planned at that time, and screen readers were even further from my mind. This was in mid 2009. Were I designing it today, it would be a Unicode application. With that said, there are definitely ways to solve it. Since BGT is Ansi, you can use UTF-8 strings without any trouble. Converting from UTF-8 to wide characters on Windows is trivial, so that's a function that I could definitely introduce. As far as the dll interface is concerned you'd just be passing an int* pointer whenever a wide character string was needed. Alternatively you could introduce UTF-8 conversion support to your own dll, which would be a nice convenience feature I'd say. I am certainly not opposed to adding native support for more screen readers if there is enough interest. Have you got any links to official references, redistribution terms for the dll's if any, etc? If so I would be more than happy to look into it. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall On 2014-06-05 10:02, Davy Kager wrote: Hi, NOTE: this post is sort of way too nerdy for this list, but I thought I’d send it anyway, for the wanna-be coder’s general delight. Now that BGT is FREE I thought I’d try and see if I could write a wrapper for my screen reader abstraction library so that my screen reader of choice (SuperNova) could be supported by games written using this toolkit. I also like having as many wrappers as possible for my library, to make people’s lives easier if they use something that isn’t C++. So trying out BGT sounded like a good idea to spend a Thursday morning. Anyway, turns out BGT is into ANSI where strings are concerned. So naturally I have some questions: - Is there a way to call external DLLs that use Unicode strings (which is what Windows has been doing for a real long time). - If not, is there any chance BGT can gain native support for SuperNova and maybe also ZoomText? Opensourcing the thing sounds like a fun idea, though I see several issues with that too and don’t intend on starting that debate here and now. Just wondered if there’s a way to deal with Unicode strings that doesn’t involve depriving Philip of a few hours of sleep. Using int or long might work, but then still you’d need to convert these into a string object, and those are ANSI so they’ll pout at you real bad and then bluntly refuse. Note that I use Java myself, and not necessarily for games, so this is not a message saying “HELP GUYS I AM STUCK AND ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS RESOLVED OR ELSE I CANNOT WRITE MY GAME!!!” I just want to provide as many wrappers for my DLL as I can without overdoing it, and BGT is definitely a big thing in the blind gamers community. That reminds me, I should probably try to do AutoIt too. Anyone know if that allows you to call DLLs in a non-evil way? Thanks, Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More
Hi Philip, Thanks, all of that makes sense. The main reason why I am firmly sticking to Unicode is because different screen readers support different formats, but they all appear to support Unicode. I also feel that in this day and age, providing both an ANSI and a Unicode version of the same function isn't the way to go. So for me it'd be the most convenient if BGT could gain a mechanism to prepare a Unicode string. This might find some use in other people's applications too! Passing int-pointers is no problem to me. I want to write a wrapper specifically so that third-party developers don't have to worry about those nitty gritty details. In all honesty, I haven't done much testing with actual Unicode or UTF-8 data yet. Maybe my implementation is still failing somewhere too. I originally started working on it for a project that is totally unrelated to gaming. Porting it to as many things as possible just seems a logical next step. But adding functionality (such as ANSI functions) to support one specific programming language is taking it a little too far as long as I don't need it myself. In fact, QuentinC has a screen reader library (UniversalSpeech) which already has ANSI functions, so for real developers out there that'd be a good option. Now for adding screen readers to BGT... Here is the official documentation for the SuperNova API, which admittedly isn't very satisfying: http://www.yourdolphin.com/productdetail.asp?id=1z=14page=682#api Their API is more limited than most, but both synchronous and asynchronous speech are available. ZoomText is a different story. They have a very extensive COM implementation much like Window-Eyes, but the company doesn't want to provide support for it outside of their own scripting facilities. It also requires a registry patch to get it to work because their installer program forgets to set things up properly. I have reported this to them and they indicated they'd fix it at some point. Once you applied the patch it works great (from C++ at least), but I'm not sure if it's suited for BGT. Might be better to wait for their developers to fix the installer so end-users don't have to apply patches (which most users won't want to do anyway). Thanks, Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 13:48 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More Hi Davy, The foundation of BGT is Ansi, which is a sort of historical accident from back when I first started the project. I did not envision it ever needing Unicode because it was primarily meant to use audio and any printed text would be mostly for debugging. There was no Sapi support planned at that time, and screen readers were even further from my mind. This was in mid 2009. Were I designing it today, it would be a Unicode application. With that said, there are definitely ways to solve it. Since BGT is Ansi, you can use UTF-8 strings without any trouble. Converting from UTF-8 to wide characters on Windows is trivial, so that's a function that I could definitely introduce. As far as the dll interface is concerned you'd just be passing an int* pointer whenever a wide character string was needed. Alternatively you could introduce UTF-8 conversion support to your own dll, which would be a nice convenience feature I'd say. I am certainly not opposed to adding native support for more screen readers if there is enough interest. Have you got any links to official references, redistribution terms for the dll's if any, etc? If so I would be more than happy to look into it. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall On 2014-06-05 10:02, Davy Kager wrote: Hi, NOTE: this post is sort of way too nerdy for this list, but I thought I’d send it anyway, for the wanna-be coder’s general delight. Now that BGT is FREE I thought I’d try and see if I could write a wrapper for my screen reader abstraction library so that my screen reader of choice (SuperNova) could be supported by games written using this toolkit. I also like having as many wrappers as possible for my library, to make people’s lives easier if they use something that isn’t C++. So trying out BGT sounded like a good idea to spend a Thursday morning. Anyway, turns out BGT is into ANSI where strings are concerned. So naturally I have some questions: - Is there a way to call external DLLs that use Unicode strings (which is what Windows has been doing for a real long time). - If not, is there any chance BGT can gain native support for SuperNova and maybe also ZoomText? Opensourcing the thing sounds like a fun idea, though I see several issues with that too and don’t intend on starting that debate here and now. Just wondered if there’s a way to deal with Unicode strings that doesn’t involve depriving Philip of a few hours
Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More
Check out the library object. Its apparently sort of in beta, but it should give you what you want. P.S: I've never used the object myself, so take the above with a grain of salt. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Davy Kager Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:02 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More Hi, NOTE: this post is sort of way too nerdy for this list, but I thought I�셝 send it anyway, for the wanna-be coder�셲 general delight. Now that BGT is FREE I thought I�셝 try and see if I could write a wrapper for my screen reader abstraction library so that my screen reader of choice (SuperNova) could be supported by games written using this toolkit. I also like having as many wrappers as possible for my library, to make people�셲 lives easier if they use something that isn�셳 C++. So trying out BGT sounded like a good idea to spend a Thursday morning. Anyway, turns out BGT is into ANSI where strings are concerned. So naturally I have some questions: - Is there a way to call external DLLs that use Unicode strings (which is what Windows has been doing for a real long time). - If not, is there any chance BGT can gain native support for SuperNova and maybe also ZoomText? Opensourcing the thing sounds like a fun idea, though I see several issues with that too and don�셳 intend on starting that debate here and now. Just wondered if there�셲 a way to deal with Unicode strings that doesn�셳 involve depriving Philip of a few hours of sleep. Using int or long might work, but then still you�셝 need to convert these into a string object, and those are ANSI so they�셪l pout at you real bad and then bluntly refuse. Note that I use Java myself, and not necessarily for games, so this is not a message saying �쏦ELP GUYS I AM STUCK AND ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET THIS RESOLVED OR ELSE I CANNOT WRITE MY GAME!!!�� I just want to provide as many wrappers for my DLL as I can without overdoing it, and BGT is definitely a big thing in the blind gamers community. That reminds me, I should probably try to do AutoIt too. Anyone know if that allows you to call DLLs in a non-evil way? Thanks, Davy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
There is also sound tap, which has a trial period, and is extremely simple to use and set up. It even sets up all the hardware for you, so there's no messing around with input/output devices. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:28:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Hello Ishan, As far as software goes there are a number of choices. A lot depends on if you want free or commercial, and how much control you want over editing. If you want a free editor that has decent editing I'd suggest Audacity which has a bit of a learning curve but can get the job done. If you don't mind spending a bit of money Goldwave is one of the best audio editors out there for recording and editing podcasts. Another suggestion is Total Recorder which has some nice plugins for recording what you here if you are running modern Windows without the ability to record directly from the soundcard. Cheers! On 6/3/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello my friends. I want to record a walkthrough of q9 The problem is that my computeris not showing the headphones. I tried all the jacks. By the way which software should I choose to record and how I record? I want to help our community. Thanks �샋! �샋!�샋! Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
Hi Charles, As far as what you here that feature is only available with certain soundcards. More specifically with specific soundcard drivers. I have two PCs with Windows 7 on them and there is absolutely no way to record from the soundcard without a program like Total Recorder. So while the feature is still supported on Windows 7 its not available on every desktop and laptop. As for your Goldwave registration info how about backing it up on a USB flash drive? They aren't that expensive these days. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Hmm. What you hear is included with operating systems above XP? I figured it would have been done away with. And I didn't know about the addons. I might be migrating to Windows 7 soon, but not sure. Unfortunately, my copy of Gold Wave is registered, but it, along with the registration info, is on my desktop PC which has been on the Fritz since December. Anyone got suggestions? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
Hi Dark, Well, in NVDA the commands to move between parent and child windows aren't to obvious as they aren't used that often, and looking them up in the documentation can often confuse non-techno types who don't have any idea what a parent window and child window are which is the case with Smugglers when trading. In fact, if I had one wish I think NVDA's mouse and object navigation needs an overhaul because its functional but not very user intuitive compared to other Windows screen readers I have used. When I was listening to your Smugglers 3 podcast I found it amazingly easy in Hal/Supernova to jump from child window to parent window with control+tab which is a whole lot simpler than NVDA's methodology for doing the same thing. Cheers! On 6/5/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Thanks for that. I was certain there was a way for Nvda to handle this sort of thing, but sinse I haven't used Nvda myself I didn't know what the correct command was. I'm also pleased there is a way around this sinse it means that the tutorial, and all in game trading is accessible with nvda as it is with Supernova. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Smugglers 3 recording?
Hi Dark, When I try to download the thing, it leads me to a page with the file name and a download button but when I press it, it tells me to download with Sendspace File manager. I know that the email can't fit but I wasn't sure how big the file was. All I ment was do you have a dropbox link that I could use to get the file? Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
Can you not buy the Smugglers games separately anymore? When I looked at the page the only ones I could see were 5 and then a package with the first four.I also couldn't find a demo of 3.I did download the demos of 4 and 5 though and 4 does in fact seem like agame I could see myself forking money over for. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording Ah yes, 60 gb would be quite the fiet of verbosity ever for me, sinse that would be about a thousand hours of gameplay! Likewise, I actually think you could probably finish smugglers 3, ie, get the best ship, win the cessession war, get all the ranks about 50 times over in that time as well. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
I'll have to figure out how to do that with Window-Eyes since I've been playing around with the demo of Smugglers 4 andmight be buying it sometime when finances allow. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:13 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda Hi Dark, Well, in NVDA the commands to move between parent and child windows aren't to obvious as they aren't used that often, and looking them up in the documentation can often confuse non-techno types who don't have any idea what a parent window and child window are which is the case with Smugglers when trading. In fact, if I had one wish I think NVDA's mouse and object navigation needs an overhaul because its functional but not very user intuitive compared to other Windows screen readers I have used. When I was listening to your Smugglers 3 podcast I found it amazingly easy in Hal/Supernova to jump from child window to parent window with control+tab which is a whole lot simpler than NVDA's methodology for doing the same thing. Cheers! On 6/5/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Thanks for that. I was certain there was a way for Nvda to handle this sort of thing, but sinse I haven't used Nvda myself I didn't know what the correct command was. I'm also pleased there is a way around this sinse it means that the tutorial, and all in game trading is accessible with nvda as it is with Supernova. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
Hi Tom. This is actually one reason some information on the methods for playing smugglers with Nvda would be useful, sinse this question comes up again and again and lots of people miss out on smugglers 4 and up for this reason which is a shame sinse the games are way better than 3 and are getting quite staggeringly good. There is a brief guide in the articles room on audiogames.net, but perhaps a more expanded version could be helpful, if either yourself or anyone familiar with nvda's commands could put something together. I actually find Nvda's lack of documentation in this rather confusing, sinse In Supernova commands like ctrl tab are used all the time, for example if I have winamp open and want to switch between the main window and playlist or equalizer that's the command I use, indeed sinse Supernova's virtual curser is used for most everything you get used to the commands for it, so when you have an application like smugglers or indeed Avg that requires it exclusively it's not much of a switch over. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 recording?
No leo I do not have a dropbox link, to be honest I don't really like dropbox because the files are only temporarily hosted and you get a very limited amount of space, sendspace hosting is perminant. I don't really understand your problem either, there are two links download with wizad and click here to start download from sendspace Obviously if you don't have the ss wizard program installed, you want the second one. I've just tried this myself, logging out from my ss account and going to the link and it worked fine so I'm afraid I really don't get why your having trouble. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: leo largel1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:14 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 recording? Hi Dark, When I try to download the thing, it leads me to a page with the file name and a download button but when I press it, it tells me to download with Sendspace File manager. I know that the email can't fit but I wasn't sure how big the file was. All I ment was do you have a dropbox link that I could use to get the file? Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
Nope, you can't buy smugglers 1-4 separately anymore, the only way to get them is in the smugglers 1-4 bundle. To be honest though if you like 4, you will definitely like 5. S5 was originally going to be smugglers 4 version 5.0 when Niels actually decided it had enough new stuff to qualify as a full new game. It uses the same interface and compatibility mode (actually the skill tree is more accessible), So I'd recommend trying the demo of 5, indeed I don't think there was anything in 4 that isn't in 5. S5 invasion is basically 5 with new ships and skills, new exploration stories for each planet and a new plot. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
Are the first two games not playable? I ask because te first Iheard blind folks talk about the Smugglers serieswas with 3. But if the first two gamesare't playable it makes no sense to be forced to purchase them all, thoug I would really like to pla through four at some point. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:46 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording Nope, you can't buy smugglers 1-4 separately anymore, the only way to get them is in the smugglers 1-4 bundle. To be honest though if you like 4, you will definitely like 5. S5 was originally going to be smugglers 4 version 5.0 when Niels actually decided it had enough new stuff to qualify as a full new game. It uses the same interface and compatibility mode (actually the skill tree is more accessible), So I'd recommend trying the demo of 5, indeed I don't think there was anything in 4 that isn't in 5. S5 invasion is basically 5 with new ships and skills, new exploration stories for each planet and a new plot. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
Hi Dark, I'll see what I can do about putting a NVDA article together as I'm not a bit surprised why people are having problems with Smugglers. The NVDA commands required to navigate around in Smugglers is fairly complex, and its not very intuitive or user friendly. Let me give you an example. Let's say you are on the main menu screen. To access the main menu with the review cursor using the numpad someone has to press NVDA+numpad 8 until they hear Smugglers 5 window which will move to the main window. Then, they have to use the numpad 7 and numpad 9 keys to move up and down through the menu items. Once they find the menu item they want to click on they have to use NVDA+numpad enter to select it. Its not bad once someone knows how to do it, but the commands are not as straight forward as they should be. I'm not sure why or how the NVDA devs picked those particular commands but compared to Jaws or Window-Eyes, which I have used extensively, NVDA's screen review commands are pretty off the wall in comparison. However, weird or not it can be done and there isn't anything in Smugglers I can't access with NVDA as long as I know which commands to use. Cheers! On 6/5/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. This is actually one reason some information on the methods for playing smugglers with Nvda would be useful, sinse this question comes up again and again and lots of people miss out on smugglers 4 and up for this reason which is a shame sinse the games are way better than 3 and are getting quite staggeringly good. There is a brief guide in the articles room on audiogames.net, but perhaps a more expanded version could be helpful, if either yourself or anyone familiar with nvda's commands could put something together. I actually find Nvda's lack of documentation in this rather confusing, sinse In Supernova commands like ctrl tab are used all the time, for example if I have winamp open and want to switch between the main window and playlist or equalizer that's the command I use, indeed sinse Supernova's virtual curser is used for most everything you get used to the commands for it, so when you have an application like smugglers or indeed Avg that requires it exclusively it's not much of a switch over. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
Backing up the info on a thumb drive is what I should have done, but now, the PC is not able to be accessed. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Hi Charles, As far as what you here that feature is only available with certain soundcards. More specifically with specific soundcard drivers. I have two PCs with Windows 7 on them and there is absolutely no way to record from the soundcard without a program like Total Recorder. So while the feature is still supported on Windows 7 its not available on every desktop and laptop. As for your Goldwave registration info how about backing it up on a USB flash drive? They aren't that expensive these days. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Hmm. What you hear is included with operating systems above XP? I figured it would have been done away with. And I didn't know about the addons. I might be migrating to Windows 7 soon, but not sure. Unfortunately, my copy of Gold Wave is registered, but it, along with the registration info, is on my desktop PC which has been on the Fritz since December. Anyone got suggestions? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
If you have sighted help available, you can probably get your data off via the command line safe mode option. If you can boot to this, you can use a program such as 7-zip to get the files off manually, or just run an application via the command line (such as backup) and then play with the files on a working machine. If you're running win7 or later, you also have the option of creating a system image, mounting the virtual disks on a working machine, and getting at the files that way. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:28:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Backing up the info on a thumb drive is what I should have done, but now, the PC is not able to be accessed. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Hi Charles, As far as what you here that feature is only available with certain soundcards. More specifically with specific soundcard drivers. I have two PCs with Windows 7 on them and there is absolutely no way to record from the soundcard without a program like Total Recorder. So while the feature is still supported on Windows 7 its not available on every desktop and laptop. As for your Goldwave registration info how about backing it up on a USB flash drive? They aren't that expensive these days. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Hmm. What you hear is included with operating systems above XP? I figured it would have been done away with. And I didn't know about the addons. I might be migrating to Windows 7 soon, but not sure. Unfortunately, my copy of Gold Wave is registered, but it, along with the registration info, is on my desktop PC which has been on the Fritz since December. Anyone got suggestions? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording?
Hey dark! Yes, I second Lori's sentiment. It'd be awesome if you did a podcast for smugglers 5 or S5 invasion; they both sound cool! On 6/4/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Well I don't know about Entombed, that would be quite a task given how long the game is. I fancy doing some explanetory podcasts first, maybe one for smugglers 5 and one for star traders on Ios. I'd also like to do a recording of one of the inspector cindy games from 7-128 sinse those are good fun, but they don't unfortunately have demos anymore. We'll see if I remain so resolved when i get back to my flat (and my desktop with all the games and my rowland recorder), next week, though whether I can resist spending time with smugglers 5 invasion I'm not sure :D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Lol Dark, that'd be great, you could do an entombed recording of the adventures of Dark the Necromancer. :) From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 5:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi Lori. that one was for a general gaming podcast called electronic soop, who were doing a special on access, I was asked to do it by Barry Ellis from Oneswitch.org.uk, sort of the audiogames.net for motion impared gamers. I thought I had a copy on sendspace but the ss goblins seem to have made away with it, I'll see about uploading a new one next week. You are right I really should do more podcasts about games because they are rather fun. The principle reason I don't is that it involves basically having to rearrange my quadrophonic speakers to a position where they'll be audible through the sterreo mikes on my Rowland recorder, but I really should just do this rather than keep thinking oh it's quite a pest Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi Dark, I remember that old recording you did, and feel we don't hear enough of your fine voice. I still love the one where you reviewed a couple of games, tomb hunter being 1, only I can't remember what podcast that one was for and i sadly don't have it on my machine anymore. Remember those fire pits? :) From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi Leo. I was thinking of doing a sequel to my long ago smugglers 3 podcast with one about s5, or perhaps s5 invasion to show the new features and answer some of the constant questions about the game. I am not making any promises, and certainly if I do anything it'll be next week when I'm back at my flat, but it is certainly something I might well do in the future. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: leo largel1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi, I wanted to ask if anyone would be willing to create a recording of Smugglers 5 Gameplay? Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
Hi Charles, Ouch! Not sure what advice I should give in that case as anything I could come up with would require some technical skills you may not have. For example, if you can setup that hard drive as a slave drive in a different PC you could recover the data from it at your leisure. If not then I'm not sure what to tell you other than contact Goldwave with your personal info and tell them you lost your registration info although they may elect not to resend it as it is your responsibility to back it up somewhere safe. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Backing up the info on a thumb drive is what I should have done, but now, the PC is not able to be accessed. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More
Right, I successfully copy-pasted together a basic wrapper written for BGT. I want to keep things as one-on-one as possible, so I didn't introduce private helper methods to get slightly more compact code. Boolean type variables are a little tricky, I ended up internally using uint8 for those. Now all that remains is to convert from string object to an array of ints and the other way around. But apart from that I can already query if the active screen reader supports speech and/or braille output, so I consider it an evening well spent. :) -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Davy Kager Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 14:33 To: phi...@blastbay.com; 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More Hi Philip, Thanks, all of that makes sense. The main reason why I am firmly sticking to Unicode is because different screen readers support different formats, but they all appear to support Unicode. I also feel that in this day and age, providing both an ANSI and a Unicode version of the same function isn't the way to go. So for me it'd be the most convenient if BGT could gain a mechanism to prepare a Unicode string. This might find some use in other people's applications too! Passing int-pointers is no problem to me. I want to write a wrapper specifically so that third-party developers don't have to worry about those nitty gritty details. In all honesty, I haven't done much testing with actual Unicode or UTF-8 data yet. Maybe my implementation is still failing somewhere too. I originally started working on it for a project that is totally unrelated to gaming. Porting it to as many things as possible just seems a logical next step. But adding functionality (such as ANSI functions) to support one specific programming language is taking it a little too far as long as I don't need it myself. In fact, QuentinC has a screen reader library (UniversalSpeech) which already has ANSI functions, so for real developers out there that'd be a good option. Now for adding screen readers to BGT... Here is the official documentation for the SuperNova API, which admittedly isn't very satisfying: http://www.yourdolphin.com/productdetail.asp?id=1z=14page=682#api Their API is more limited than most, but both synchronous and asynchronous speech are available. ZoomText is a different story. They have a very extensive COM implementation much like Window-Eyes, but the company doesn't want to provide support for it outside of their own scripting facilities. It also requires a registry patch to get it to work because their installer program forgets to set things up properly. I have reported this to them and they indicated they'd fix it at some point. Once you applied the patch it works great (from C++ at least), but I'm not sure if it's suited for BGT. Might be better to wait for their developers to fix the installer so end-users don't have to apply patches (which most users won't want to do anyway). Thanks, Davy -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 13:48 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT And Screen Readers And Unicode And More Hi Davy, The foundation of BGT is Ansi, which is a sort of historical accident from back when I first started the project. I did not envision it ever needing Unicode because it was primarily meant to use audio and any printed text would be mostly for debugging. There was no Sapi support planned at that time, and screen readers were even further from my mind. This was in mid 2009. Were I designing it today, it would be a Unicode application. With that said, there are definitely ways to solve it. Since BGT is Ansi, you can use UTF-8 strings without any trouble. Converting from UTF-8 to wide characters on Windows is trivial, so that's a function that I could definitely introduce. As far as the dll interface is concerned you'd just be passing an int* pointer whenever a wide character string was needed. Alternatively you could introduce UTF-8 conversion support to your own dll, which would be a nice convenience feature I'd say. I am certainly not opposed to adding native support for more screen readers if there is enough interest. Have you got any links to official references, redistribution terms for the dll's if any, etc? If so I would be more than happy to look into it. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall On 2014-06-05 10:02, Davy Kager wrote: Hi, NOTE: this post is sort of way too nerdy for this list, but I thought I’d send it anyway, for the wanna-be coder’s general delight. Now that BGT is FREE I thought I’d try and see if I could write a wrapper for my screen reader abstraction library so that my screen reader of choice (SuperNova) could be supported by games written using this toolkit. I also like having
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
The only other PC I have is a laptop. If I had a case and power supply, I might be able to set the drive from the nonworking PC up as an external drive, but I don't. RATS!!! I might give the other option a try, and would not be angry if they do not retrieve and send me the info, because, as you say, it is my responsibility, not theirs. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Hi Charles, Ouch! Not sure what advice I should give in that case as anything I could come up with would require some technical skills you may not have. For example, if you can setup that hard drive as a slave drive in a different PC you could recover the data from it at your leisure. If not then I'm not sure what to tell you other than contact Goldwave with your personal info and tell them you lost your registration info although they may elect not to resend it as it is your responsibility to back it up somewhere safe. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Backing up the info on a thumb drive is what I should have done, but now, the PC is not able to be accessed. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
If you're willing to play with the physical drive, you have a couple options. First off, there are devices you can buy for less than $20 U.S, which will allow you to plug either and IDE (older) or SATA (newer) drive in via usb. These can be somewhat fiddly, but they really do work extremely well for data recovery, or if you just want to access some old hard drive. If you happen to have an external drive with a USB to IDE or SATA converter as part of it, you may be able to detach the converter, plug it into your pc's drive, and then use it with your laptop that way. This can be a little more awkward than using a device designed to work with all disks rather than your specific external, but it'll get the job done. Good luck. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:33:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? The only other PC I have is a laptop. If I had a case and power supply, I might be able to set the drive from the nonworking PC up as an external drive, but I don't. RATS!!! I might give the other option a try, and would not be angry if they do not retrieve and send me the info, because, as you say, it is my responsibility, not theirs. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
Hi Charles, Well, one option I see here is finding a USB hard drive enclosure that allows you to put your old hard drive in it, and access it via your laptop. I am not sure on current pricing, but they are very helpful in recovering data from hard drives that will no longer boot. Assuming, of course, there is nothing physically wrong with the drive. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only other PC I have is a laptop. If I had a case and power supply, I might be able to set the drive from the nonworking PC up as an external drive, but I don't. RATS!!! I might give the other option a try, and would not be angry if they do not retrieve and send me the info, because, as you say, it is my responsibility, not theirs. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 3 Recording
Hi Bryan. The reason people talked about 3 at first is that that was the urrent game when people ran across the series in 2007. From what I've been able to determin, the only one that is absolutely unplayable is 2, and that because there are no text labels on any of the equipment screens for your ship so there is no way to buy any upgrades to your guns and missiles. This is something that could've been fixed at the time, but sinse s2 hasn't been worked on sinse I believe 2003 or so there probably isn't much point. That does mean 3 accessible games in the bundle, plus you et the addon for 3 which was originally an extra automatically. I really wouldn't recommend spending time with s4 however. S5 tells the same plot, the cessession war, has all the same content and the same interface, but has much more fun stuff added such as a far better combat system and actual exploring of the planets, Smugglers 5 was in fact originally going to be smugglers 4 version 4.5. I'd very much suggest downloading and trying the demo for s5, rather than bothering with 4. indeed S3 and s1 (and maybe s2 as well), are far more different games to s5 than s4 is, though out of them all I'd regard s5 as the best, and s5 invasion as just more of the best sinse it is basically s5 with a different story as well as different factions and ships and skills. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Question about trading in smugglers and Nvda
Hi Tom. Sounds like a guide would really help, sinse to me those sorts of key combinations are just plane crazy! In supernovaall I need to do is switch to dolphin curser (what used to be called the virtual focus), with either numbpad plus or f4 (depending on whether it's the desktop or laptop layout), hit ctrl 1 to focus lock so that Supernova stays in dolphin curser perminantly even after clicking stuff then just navigate around with the arrows, maybe ctrl up and down arrow if I want to skip chunks of text, using either delete to right click, q to double click or space to left click. Ctrl tab to swtich windows as I said. That is literally it. Why Nvda made the keys so crazy I really don't know, but it's a shame if that stops people enjoying smugglers, particularly sinse the series has got some awsome of later, and is likely to get even better with planned extra downloadable content in the form of miniquests, (which also add some extra ships and other goodies), available for Smugglers 5 invasion later this year. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording?
Thanks Alisan. I'll see what I can do next week. I was thinking if I did one that I would probably use standard s5 rather than s5 invasion, just because that still has the cessession plot and the same factions and war system from s3, as well as missing out on some of the more strategical battle skills that are in s5 invasion, plus I could then do one on s5 invasion later and talk about the differences in the game. Beware the grue! DArk. - Original Message - From: Allison Passino apocalypseof...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hey dark! Yes, I second Lori's sentiment. It'd be awesome if you did a podcast for smugglers 5 or S5 invasion; they both sound cool! On 6/4/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Well I don't know about Entombed, that would be quite a task given how long the game is. I fancy doing some explanetory podcasts first, maybe one for smugglers 5 and one for star traders on Ios. I'd also like to do a recording of one of the inspector cindy games from 7-128 sinse those are good fun, but they don't unfortunately have demos anymore. We'll see if I remain so resolved when i get back to my flat (and my desktop with all the games and my rowland recorder), next week, though whether I can resist spending time with smugglers 5 invasion I'm not sure :D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Lol Dark, that'd be great, you could do an entombed recording of the adventures of Dark the Necromancer. :) From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 5:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi Lori. that one was for a general gaming podcast called electronic soop, who were doing a special on access, I was asked to do it by Barry Ellis from Oneswitch.org.uk, sort of the audiogames.net for motion impared gamers. I thought I had a copy on sendspace but the ss goblins seem to have made away with it, I'll see about uploading a new one next week. You are right I really should do more podcasts about games because they are rather fun. The principle reason I don't is that it involves basically having to rearrange my quadrophonic speakers to a position where they'll be audible through the sterreo mikes on my Rowland recorder, but I really should just do this rather than keep thinking oh it's quite a pest Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Lori Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi Dark, I remember that old recording you did, and feel we don't hear enough of your fine voice. I still love the one where you reviewed a couple of games, tomb hunter being 1, only I can't remember what podcast that one was for and i sadly don't have it on my machine anymore. Remember those fire pits? :) From Lori. -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:39 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi Leo. I was thinking of doing a sequel to my long ago smugglers 3 podcast with one about s5, or perhaps s5 invasion to show the new features and answer some of the constant questions about the game. I am not making any promises, and certainly if I do anything it'll be next week when I'm back at my flat, but it is certainly something I might well do in the future. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: leo largel1...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 4:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording? Hi, I wanted to ask if anyone would be willing to create a recording of Smugglers 5 Gameplay? Thanks, Leo --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
[Audyssey] Fans and Horns in Blindfold Racer; Write *off-list* Please
Ok, folks, this is embarrassing. I don't know how to honk the horn or use the fans in this game. I tried blowing into the microphone, shaking the device, various taps on the screen. Would someone mind writing me privately when you've figured it out? Sorry; I was born blonde. smile Please write me *privately* to avoid spoilers. My email address is in my sig. Thanks, Teresa Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com Facebook --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
I can say that an enclosure is substantially (3-5x?) more expensive than a simple converter. They're handy if you want to have the drive function as an external, but they're really bad if you plan to swap disks out often or if you just want to use the drive for a short period of time. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 17:09:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Hi Charles, Well, one option I see here is finding a USB hard drive enclosure that allows you to put your old hard drive in it, and access it via your laptop. I am not sure on current pricing, but they are very helpful in recovering data from hard drives that will no longer boot. Assuming, of course, there is nothing physically wrong with the drive. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only other PC I have is a laptop. If I had a case and power supply, I might be able to set the drive from the nonworking PC up as an external drive, but I don't. RATS!!! I might give the other option a try, and would not be angry if they do not retrieve and send me the info, because, as you say, it is my responsibility, not theirs. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey babble report for May 2014
Hi Christina, Sorry that the reports were late this month, I've just got allot of stuff going on right now. Have a good one. BFN Jim Change is inevitable, except from vending machines. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to record?
When this is fixed I'd also recommend buying a good quality backup drive and routinely doing a backup of everything on your system. I have a 2Tb external Seagate drive that normally sits in a box under my bed, and every three weeks or so I backup my entire desktop contents, all my music, audio books and dramas, program setup files, keys, documents everything! This is a somewhat lengthy process and usually i set it going in the evening then get up the next morning to find it's done, but it's well worth it. When my first desktop exploded in 2008, I only lost about a week's worth of stuff, indeed the conversation was slightly hilarious sinse when I phoned my local pc repare shop and told them my pc broke they instantly responded with well we can't promise to recover any of the data and when I explained that all the data was backed up anyway and I wanted to buy a new pc instead they were quite astonished and said they'd never actually heard of that happening before. I will say the fact that I'm very particular about my file and folder structure and know exactly where all the stuff on my pc is stored and installed helps a lot with this too. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to record? Hi Charles, Well, one option I see here is finding a USB hard drive enclosure that allows you to put your old hard drive in it, and access it via your laptop. I am not sure on current pricing, but they are very helpful in recovering data from hard drives that will no longer boot. Assuming, of course, there is nothing physically wrong with the drive. Cheers! On 6/5/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only other PC I have is a laptop. If I had a case and power supply, I might be able to set the drive from the nonworking PC up as an external drive, but I don't. RATS!!! I might give the other option a try, and would not be angry if they do not retrieve and send me the info, because, as you say, it is my responsibility, not theirs. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Smugglers 5 Recording?
Hi Dark, Not only that, but I think you should do a podcast on S5 because there is a demo available for it where there isn't one for Invasion yet. I haven't got Invasion yet, but I think S5 is really the best of s1 through S5 so far, and is best for an introduction into the series. On 6/5/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Thanks Alisan. I'll see what I can do next week. I was thinking if I did one that I would probably use standard s5 rather than s5 invasion, just because that still has the cessession plot and the same factions and war system from s3, as well as missing out on some of the more strategical battle skills that are in s5 invasion, plus I could then do one on s5 invasion later and talk about the differences in the game. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
