Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great!
Yes, and braillenSpeak/ASAPI is working fine, both in command line and windows 3.1. Only issue now is trying to bring external data/files in to try them out under operating system. And, yes, trust me, windows firewall is quite happy to allow this through, and the signed version of com0com you gave me seems quite happy here on my machine - like said, it's literally just trying to mount .flp files to the virtual floppy drives that seems to be an issue. Maybe I'll just try add another virtual CD-ROM drive, and see how that then cooperates, or something, or let it share my separate physical hard drives, or something - but issue there is they're all running on NTFS, which might not work under dos 6.22 as such. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! when you install those you will have security dialogs from windows hit alt i to accept and install. you must follow directions exactly. did you set edit boxes to com8 and com9 in com0com? read the read-me and follow directions exactly, to the letter. On 12/22/2014 1:51 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, next step - installed python 2.6 as well, and installed pySerial under it, and configured com0com, with values of COM8 and COM9, but, when run c:\python26\python.exe emu.py com9, it throws out errors that it can't contact port or something, but anyway. And, think had similar version of VMWare image, but, not sure if it had that !readme file in it like this one does, and not sure if will also need to sort of roll back to prior version of VMWare player as well, since currently have 9.0 running here, but, no go if serial port emulation doesn't want to cooperate - let me play around a bit more. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! Ok, but, do you need the virtual com part to run first before launching VMWare player, etc.? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! window-eyes launches automatically and it uses the virtual braille n speak automatically. you just type win and hit enter and windows3.1 comes up talking. On 12/22/2014 12:05 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, then another question - does window eyes launch automatically if you then launch windows, or does it also need the sort of virtual com port? Ask since that vmWare image has pretty much the same name as the one have here already, where window eyes doesn't seem to be launching, since although, do hear windows startup sound if type in win in dos bootup, and hit enter, but not much else happens? Will download it, and try it out as well, but let's see. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! get it here. windows3.1 with dos window-eyes 1.0 and asap. and by the way i wrote to the maker of asap lary scutchan and he doesn't care if we use it and share it. http://www.eurpod.net/vmware/win31withspeech.rar On 12/22/2014 11:46 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Josh, where do you get that vmWare image/instance? I want to try this out using python 2.7, since that's my standard version here, and got hold of pyserial 2.7 version, so let's see...? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! hey i found it. I found it I found it! the ultimate ms-dos solution! download and install the following google them... you have to google search the following! python 2.6 found at ftp.compuconference.com pyserial com0com install them! oh and you'll also need an old copy of vmware player 4.0 get it from filehippo or from the old vinux virtual edition. now follow these directions pasted below. run the virtual bns server and let the command prompt window open at all times when running the virtual machine! if you do it right, you will hav
Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great!
Shaun, it runs fine with python 2.7, and VMWare player later versions - my only current issue seems to be with working with image's file system as such...smile As in, I can't find a way to load external files into it as of yet. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! well after maybe christmas I want to put all this stuff together and get some sort of portable configuration set up so we can run this portably included with this will be my 100 + mb dos game image. Why do you need an old version of python and vmware. If we could get a prebuilt version I'd do it, but I will need assistance and I don't have the time right now anyway however I want to do it. heck I may even do a podcast on this. At 07:51 a.m. 23/12/2014, you wrote: Ok, next step - installed python 2.6 as well, and installed pySerial under it, and configured com0com, with values of COM8 and COM9, but, when run c:\python26\python.exe emu.py com9, it throws out errors that it can't contact port or something, but anyway. And, think had similar version of VMWare image, but, not sure if it had that !readme file in it like this one does, and not sure if will also need to sort of roll back to prior version of VMWare player as well, since currently have 9.0 running here, but, no go if serial port emulation doesn't want to cooperate - let me play around a bit more. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! Ok, but, do you need the virtual com part to run first before launching VMWare player, etc.? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! window-eyes launches automatically and it uses the virtual braille n speak automatically. you just type win and hit enter and windows3.1 comes up talking. On 12/22/2014 12:05 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, then another question - does window eyes launch automatically if you then launch windows, or does it also need the sort of virtual com port? Ask since that vmWare image has pretty much the same name as the one have here already, where window eyes doesn't seem to be launching, since although, do hear windows startup sound if type in win in dos bootup, and hit enter, but not much else happens? Will download it, and try it out as well, but let's see. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! get it here. windows3.1 with dos window-eyes 1.0 and asap. and by the way i wrote to the maker of asap lary scutchan and he doesn't care if we use it and share it. http://www.eurpod.net/vmware/win31withspeech.rar On 12/22/2014 11:46 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Josh, where do you get that vmWare image/instance? I want to try this out using python 2.7, since that's my standard version here, and got hold of pyserial 2.7 version, so let's see...? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! hey i found it. I found it I found it! the ultimate ms-dos solution! download and install the following google them... you have to google search the following! python 2.6 found at ftp.compuconference.com pyserial com0com install them! oh and you'll also need an old copy of vmware player 4.0 get it from filehippo or from the old vinux virtual edition. now follow these directions pasted below. run the virtual bns server and let the command prompt window open at all times when running the virtual machine! if you do it right, you will hav windows3.1 and dos with window-eyes with windows3.1 and you will also have a a registered ASAP screen reader and it is very very responsive! asap and window-eyes for windows3.1 will talk using espeak! and you will also get pc speaker beeps and boop sounds through your laptop or desktop speakers or sound card. so go
[Audyssey] PS4 Question
Hi gang, I am hoping to get a PS4 for Christmas. If I do, what is the easiest way to authenticate with the PlayStation Network? Are there any Linux clients, or is this done on the console? Thanks, Hunter --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great!
you don't really need old python. you need slightly older vmware or else you will not get pc speaker beeps emulated through the sound card. On 12/22/2014 7:13 PM, shaun everiss wrote: well after maybe christmas I want to put all this stuff together and get some sort of portable configuration set up so we can run this portably included with this will be my 100 + mb dos game image. Why do you need an old version of python and vmware. If we could get a prebuilt version I'd do it, but I will need assistance and I don't have the time right now anyway however I want to do it. heck I may even do a podcast on this. At 07:51 a.m. 23/12/2014, you wrote: Ok, next step - installed python 2.6 as well, and installed pySerial under it, and configured com0com, with values of COM8 and COM9, but, when run c:\python26\python.exe emu.py com9, it throws out errors that it can't contact port or something, but anyway. And, think had similar version of VMWare image, but, not sure if it had that !readme file in it like this one does, and not sure if will also need to sort of roll back to prior version of VMWare player as well, since currently have 9.0 running here, but, no go if serial port emulation doesn't want to cooperate - let me play around a bit more. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! Ok, but, do you need the virtual com part to run first before launching VMWare player, etc.? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! window-eyes launches automatically and it uses the virtual braille n speak automatically. you just type win and hit enter and windows3.1 comes up talking. On 12/22/2014 12:05 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, then another question - does window eyes launch automatically if you then launch windows, or does it also need the sort of virtual com port? Ask since that vmWare image has pretty much the same name as the one have here already, where window eyes doesn't seem to be launching, since although, do hear windows startup sound if type in win in dos bootup, and hit enter, but not much else happens? Will download it, and try it out as well, but let's see. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! get it here. windows3.1 with dos window-eyes 1.0 and asap. and by the way i wrote to the maker of asap lary scutchan and he doesn't care if we use it and share it. http://www.eurpod.net/vmware/win31withspeech.rar On 12/22/2014 11:46 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Josh, where do you get that vmWare image/instance? I want to try this out using python 2.7, since that's my standard version here, and got hold of pyserial 2.7 version, so let's see...? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! hey i found it. I found it I found it! the ultimate ms-dos solution! download and install the following google them... you have to google search the following! python 2.6 found at ftp.compuconference.com pyserial com0com install them! oh and you'll also need an old copy of vmware player 4.0 get it from filehippo or from the old vinux virtual edition. now follow these directions pasted below. run the virtual bns server and let the command prompt window open at all times when running the virtual machine! if you do it right, you will hav windows3.1 and dos with window-eyes with windows3.1 and you will also have a a registered ASAP screen reader and it is very very responsive! asap and window-eyes for windows3.1 will talk using espeak! and you will also get pc speaker beeps and boop sounds through your laptop or desktop speakers or sound card. so go have fun and use a real live ms-dos and windows 3.1 again! have fun! What you'll need *python 2.6 *com0com *pyserial *vmware player or workstation How to set this up 1. install python 2.6, then pyserial and finally com0com 2. When you've installed com0com, go to its start menu group, and pick setup. 3. the tree view should be set for virtual pare 0. 4.
Re: [Audyssey] island game
Yup - also already copied things like directory listing off C: drive into a floppy disk image to double check spelling of some of them - used 7zip to extract contents afterwards - would be nice to also figure out how to do things like change speech rate on the fly/go, using keystrokes, or commands, or something, but, let's see. Also got to now test another game someone else mentioned to me - braminar, which is a full on standalone form of interactive fiction role-playing game - and worked fine now off it's own .flp image...smile Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game and now that you can use the virtual floppy you can then do copy a:\*.* c:\dosgames and put your games inside the hard drive of the vm. On 12/24/2014 3:16 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, not sure if it's related to using full path relating to file contents - in other words, c:\temp\game, or something else, but regenerated that disk image using the full file/folder path to the files to include, and that also didn't want to cooperate with second floppy drive, but, if I change the original floopy disk to use that file, instead of a non-existent hardware drive, then it works - and turns out am not sure can play my test game of the hobbit, but, can at least now use the virtual floppy drive - thanks again smile Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game use the .flp format with bfi and you must manually write the extension like this bfi -f=c:\mydisk.flp c:\dosgames\football in vmware 4.0 your .flp image will be the a: drive or it should be a:. On 12/24/2014 3:09 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Using VMWare player 9.2, which works fine with rest of it, and got floppy drive/image set to be available from power on, etc., but when change to it in command line using b: - am assuming that's the right drive for a second floppy drive - it tells me drive not ready, please insert disk, etc. Will try a few different formats in BFI, etc., and try assigning it to original floppy drive, etc., but anyway - bit of a pity if can't take this much further than just playing with dos and windows 3.1 themselves...LOL! Might also try out an older version of VMWare player, but, really don't think that's the issue - one question on that side of it - VMWare player offers me both create and browse buttons with regards to floppy images, but, when you select either option, it's still looking for .flp files, but anyway..? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game you mount it before you boot the virtual machine, do you have vmware player 4.0? you need 4.0. and you need to check the connected checkbox and the connect at power on checkbox to make floppy work. On 12/23/2014 2:27 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, created the .flp image of the original hobbit game's files, but, if I either try mount it to the already included floppy disk piece of virtual hardware, or try create another one inside virtual machine, it keeps telling me disk/drive not ready from command line when virtual machine is running..? Do you just reassign the already included floppy disk to use that image file, do you tell it to connect at power up, or do you map it into virtual machine another way? TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game first I used a free command line program called BFI floppy to turn it into a floppy disk image file. I mounted it in the virtual machine and it showed up as an a: drive then in dos with asap I typed copy a:\island.exe c:\ and it coppied over into the vmware hard drive file system. On 12/22/2014 5:15 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: How did you copy it across to VMWare file system? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] island game hey i found an
Re: [Audyssey] island game
just tried it here. works perfectly. its the a: drive. make sure the checkboxes for your floppy to both connect and connect at power on are all checked. it should work its working great here. On 12/24/2014 8:12 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, and VMWare 4.0.2 also doesn't want to let me use a .flp floppy disk image - here's the image file in case you want to test/try it out for me: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13327195/hobbit.iso.flp The two files inside that are Hobbit.dat and Hobbit.com, and like said, in windows XP virtual machine, can browse the virtual floppy alright, but, under either VMWare version, when using the dos/win3.1 image, both versions just tell me that there's no disk in either/any floppy drives/ddevices, etc. And, saw that the option for sharing virtual network share paths is listed under VMWare player 4.0.2, but, disabled, and also saw in windows 3.1 control panel that it doesn't seem to have any network adapters installed - not sure what actual hardware the virtual device could match, and/or how I would install drivers if can't pass data/files on to this image...smile Wonder if there's not a way to access/work with the VMWare virtual file system externally/prior to booting up VMWare image? Will have to look around for that, but, chances are you'd need to have the paid for VMWare software installed. Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game Ok, and tested floppy image with same newish version of VMWare player, but through my windows XP VMWare image, and could read/copy files with no issue, so am guessing that it must be something like a drive letter issue, or file system incompatibility - will double check all BFI command line options again, in case it's defaulting to something like fat32, etc. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game I just do it like this bfi -f=c:\myfloppy.flp c:\games makes a floppy image of all files in the games folder. On 12/23/2014 2:45 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: As in - sorry for multiple posts - used following bfi command: bfi -t=144 -f=hobbit.flp src And, had the two files for image in src sub-directory - hobbit.com and hobbit.dat - and if I then use 7zip to extract contents of hobbit.flp, they are there/do show up. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game Oh yes, and what floppy disk image format did you choose? 144, 360? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game Ok, created the .flp image of the original hobbit game's files, but, if I either try mount it to the already included floppy disk piece of virtual hardware, or try create another one inside virtual machine, it keeps telling me disk/drive not ready from command line when virtual machine is running..? Do you just reassign the already included floppy disk to use that image file, do you tell it to connect at power up, or do you map it into virtual machine another way? TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:49 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] island game first I used a free command line program called BFI floppy to turn it into a floppy disk image file. I mounted it in the virtual machine and it showed up as an a: drive then in dos with asap I typed copy a:\island.exe c:\ and it coppied over into the vmware hard drive file system. On 12/22/2014 5:15 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: How did you copy it across to VMWare file system? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:28 PM Subject: [Audyssey] island game hey i found an old dos
Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great!
also you need if you have 64bit windows, you need the com0com with 64bit signed drivers from the google code site. On 12/22/2014 7:13 PM, shaun everiss wrote: well after maybe christmas I want to put all this stuff together and get some sort of portable configuration set up so we can run this portably included with this will be my 100 + mb dos game image. Why do you need an old version of python and vmware. If we could get a prebuilt version I'd do it, but I will need assistance and I don't have the time right now anyway however I want to do it. heck I may even do a podcast on this. At 07:51 a.m. 23/12/2014, you wrote: Ok, next step - installed python 2.6 as well, and installed pySerial under it, and configured com0com, with values of COM8 and COM9, but, when run c:\python26\python.exe emu.py com9, it throws out errors that it can't contact port or something, but anyway. And, think had similar version of VMWare image, but, not sure if it had that !readme file in it like this one does, and not sure if will also need to sort of roll back to prior version of VMWare player as well, since currently have 9.0 running here, but, no go if serial port emulation doesn't want to cooperate - let me play around a bit more. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! Ok, but, do you need the virtual com part to run first before launching VMWare player, etc.? Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! window-eyes launches automatically and it uses the virtual braille n speak automatically. you just type win and hit enter and windows3.1 comes up talking. On 12/22/2014 12:05 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Ok, then another question - does window eyes launch automatically if you then launch windows, or does it also need the sort of virtual com port? Ask since that vmWare image has pretty much the same name as the one have here already, where window eyes doesn't seem to be launching, since although, do hear windows startup sound if type in win in dos bootup, and hit enter, but not much else happens? Will download it, and try it out as well, but let's see. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! get it here. windows3.1 with dos window-eyes 1.0 and asap. and by the way i wrote to the maker of asap lary scutchan and he doesn't care if we use it and share it. http://www.eurpod.net/vmware/win31withspeech.rar On 12/22/2014 11:46 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Josh, where do you get that vmWare image/instance? I want to try this out using python 2.7, since that's my standard version here, and got hold of pyserial 2.7 version, so let's see...? Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 5:50 PM Subject: [Audyssey] ms-dos works great! hey i found it. I found it I found it! the ultimate ms-dos solution! download and install the following google them... you have to google search the following! python 2.6 found at ftp.compuconference.com pyserial com0com install them! oh and you'll also need an old copy of vmware player 4.0 get it from filehippo or from the old vinux virtual edition. now follow these directions pasted below. run the virtual bns server and let the command prompt window open at all times when running the virtual machine! if you do it right, you will hav windows3.1 and dos with window-eyes with windows3.1 and you will also have a a registered ASAP screen reader and it is very very responsive! asap and window-eyes for windows3.1 will talk using espeak! and you will also get pc speaker beeps and boop sounds through your laptop or desktop speakers or sound card. so go have fun and use a real live ms-dos and windows 3.1 again! have fun! What you'll need *python 2.6 *com0com *pyserial *vmware player or workstation How to set this up 1. install python 2.6, then pyserial and finally com0com 2. When you've installed com0com, go to its start menu group, and pick setup. 3. the tree view should be set for virtual pare 0. 4. Enter COM8 in the first
Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos
and is there a variants file so I could change it to variant m3 or male3 as well? On 12/24/2014 3:02 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Josh, to switch that instance of eSpeak over to US english, edit espeak.py with something like notepad, and on line 5, change the current line to: _espeak.setVoiceByLanguage(en-us) That makes it use US english - even switched it over to a couple of other languages/variants now when testing. Those languages/variants of voices match the files in the espeak-data\voices sub-folder - under en there's a few kinds of english, including en-us. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos it doesn't really matter. with windows7 and the right pyserial and com0com with signed drivers the windows3.1 vmware image and the virtual braille 'n speak server I have all the dos I could ever want with the microtalk and whatever other screen reader i want, talking through espeak on virtual serial port com1. now if i could make the vbns server mod its code to make espeak use its american english voice an maybe another variant like m3? On 12/21/2014 12:56 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Well josh it does not help that at least with laptops and maybe other things pc speakers are linked with soundcards now so are vertual. Either that or they are crappy small things because they don't have to be. Worse I am not sure if the new eufi systems will even run dos, they do have speakers but they sound different notes from bios units, bios ones usually are a with toshibas with an e chime, the eufi systems I have used have a c chime so they are probably different. Since eufi is not cmos I can only assume thatt dos games will not run from it because its a different structure. At 09:41 a.m. 20/12/2014, you wrote: but how do you get sound from games in dosemu and pc speaker beeps? haven't figured that out yet. On 12/19/2014 12:53 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, As a matter of interest, I managed to have some success with a DecTalk USB connected to a USB-to-serial adaptor in DosBox. It was clunky, though, so I really would suggest Dosemu in Linux as a better solution at this point. If something more useable is found, I’m all ears, though. There were some great DOS games which haven’t been duplicated. Best, Zac. On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:48 AM, tim z200...@gmail.com wrote: The only version of windoweyes that will work with win3.1 is version 1. I beta tested it for a year on that op.At 10:45 AM 12/19/2014, you wrote: Josh, one of my VMWare images have here is some version of dos, with windows 3.1, but, have never been able to do much with it, since couldn't manage to get the apparent installation of window eyes to run inside windows 3.1 myself, and have never bothered to get sighted help to handle that, since it's just always been something I never bothered deleting, partly since it's not all that large in file size. However, wonder if something like this tiny talk screenreader might work/run within it - but, again, wouldn't be 100% sure how to copy it across to virtual file system, since while I can sort out VMWare file shares with virtual versions of windows, really don't know exactly how dos would even try to handle that...smile Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos hi thomas, do you have speakup installed in ubuntu, or do you use archLinux? I like speakup. it is the closest thing I can come to using true DOS. On 12/18/2014 11:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Honestly, I'm not surprised. The only way I have ever managed to run any old Dos applications etc the last few years is by using Dosemu with Speakup. It isn't a perfect solution, but it does work. I have managed to play some games and run certain apps like Wordperfect 5.1 with Speakup. However, that requires a Linux distribution like Vinux, Ubuntu, or some other distribution with Speakup, Espeakup, and Dosemu. Otherwise I don't think you are going to find a better solution for running old Dos games and apps. I've already tried running copies of Jaws for Dos etc in Dosbox before all to no success. Cheers! On 12/18/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hey tiny talk with sound blaster isn't working. and I can't get speech thing working either. how can I use old dos stuff like wordperfect 5.1 and lotus 123?--- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos
I am so very happy we can use dos with espeak even if its just virtualized. I wish we could somehow take it out of its virtualized environment and run it as a native OS. maybe take the native OS, freeDos, and make it use asap with espeak. On 12/24/2014 3:02 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Josh, to switch that instance of eSpeak over to US english, edit espeak.py with something like notepad, and on line 5, change the current line to: _espeak.setVoiceByLanguage(en-us) That makes it use US english - even switched it over to a couple of other languages/variants now when testing. Those languages/variants of voices match the files in the espeak-data\voices sub-folder - under en there's a few kinds of english, including en-us. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos it doesn't really matter. with windows7 and the right pyserial and com0com with signed drivers the windows3.1 vmware image and the virtual braille 'n speak server I have all the dos I could ever want with the microtalk and whatever other screen reader i want, talking through espeak on virtual serial port com1. now if i could make the vbns server mod its code to make espeak use its american english voice an maybe another variant like m3? On 12/21/2014 12:56 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Well josh it does not help that at least with laptops and maybe other things pc speakers are linked with soundcards now so are vertual. Either that or they are crappy small things because they don't have to be. Worse I am not sure if the new eufi systems will even run dos, they do have speakers but they sound different notes from bios units, bios ones usually are a with toshibas with an e chime, the eufi systems I have used have a c chime so they are probably different. Since eufi is not cmos I can only assume thatt dos games will not run from it because its a different structure. At 09:41 a.m. 20/12/2014, you wrote: but how do you get sound from games in dosemu and pc speaker beeps? haven't figured that out yet. On 12/19/2014 12:53 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, As a matter of interest, I managed to have some success with a DecTalk USB connected to a USB-to-serial adaptor in DosBox. It was clunky, though, so I really would suggest Dosemu in Linux as a better solution at this point. If something more useable is found, I’m all ears, though. There were some great DOS games which haven’t been duplicated. Best, Zac. On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:48 AM, tim z200...@gmail.com wrote: The only version of windoweyes that will work with win3.1 is version 1. I beta tested it for a year on that op.At 10:45 AM 12/19/2014, you wrote: Josh, one of my VMWare images have here is some version of dos, with windows 3.1, but, have never been able to do much with it, since couldn't manage to get the apparent installation of window eyes to run inside windows 3.1 myself, and have never bothered to get sighted help to handle that, since it's just always been something I never bothered deleting, partly since it's not all that large in file size. However, wonder if something like this tiny talk screenreader might work/run within it - but, again, wouldn't be 100% sure how to copy it across to virtual file system, since while I can sort out VMWare file shares with virtual versions of windows, really don't know exactly how dos would even try to handle that...smile Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos hi thomas, do you have speakup installed in ubuntu, or do you use archLinux? I like speakup. it is the closest thing I can come to using true DOS. On 12/18/2014 11:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Honestly, I'm not surprised. The only way I have ever managed to run any old Dos applications etc the last few years is by using Dosemu with Speakup. It isn't a perfect solution, but it does work. I have managed to play some games and run certain apps like Wordperfect 5.1 with Speakup. However, that requires a Linux distribution like Vinux, Ubuntu, or some other distribution with Speakup, Espeakup, and Dosemu. Otherwise I don't think you are going to find a better solution for running old Dos games and apps. I've already tried running copies of Jaws for Dos etc in Dosbox before all to no success. Cheers! On 12/18/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hey tiny talk with sound blaster isn't working. and I can't get speech thing working either. how can I use old dos stuff
Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos
Hey, What I’d be interested in is if it were possible to get this working on platforms besides Windows. I have OS X, and VmWare Fusion, which can run virtual machines created for VmWare Player. So I’m 90% there, I guess. Any ideas? THanks, Zack. On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote: Josh, to switch that instance of eSpeak over to US english, edit espeak.py with something like notepad, and on line 5, change the current line to: _espeak.setVoiceByLanguage(en-us) That makes it use US english - even switched it over to a couple of other languages/variants now when testing. Those languages/variants of voices match the files in the espeak-data\voices sub-folder - under en there's a few kinds of english, including en-us. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos it doesn't really matter. with windows7 and the right pyserial and com0com with signed drivers the windows3.1 vmware image and the virtual braille 'n speak server I have all the dos I could ever want with the microtalk and whatever other screen reader i want, talking through espeak on virtual serial port com1. now if i could make the vbns server mod its code to make espeak use its american english voice an maybe another variant like m3? On 12/21/2014 12:56 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Well josh it does not help that at least with laptops and maybe other things pc speakers are linked with soundcards now so are vertual. Either that or they are crappy small things because they don't have to be. Worse I am not sure if the new eufi systems will even run dos, they do have speakers but they sound different notes from bios units, bios ones usually are a with toshibas with an e chime, the eufi systems I have used have a c chime so they are probably different. Since eufi is not cmos I can only assume thatt dos games will not run from it because its a different structure. At 09:41 a.m. 20/12/2014, you wrote: but how do you get sound from games in dosemu and pc speaker beeps? haven't figured that out yet. On 12/19/2014 12:53 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, As a matter of interest, I managed to have some success with a DecTalk USB connected to a USB-to-serial adaptor in DosBox. It was clunky, though, so I really would suggest Dosemu in Linux as a better solution at this point. If something more useable is found, I’m all ears, though. There were some great DOS games which haven’t been duplicated. Best, Zac. On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:48 AM, tim z200...@gmail.com wrote: The only version of windoweyes that will work with win3.1 is version 1. I beta tested it for a year on that op.At 10:45 AM 12/19/2014, you wrote: Josh, one of my VMWare images have here is some version of dos, with windows 3.1, but, have never been able to do much with it, since couldn't manage to get the apparent installation of window eyes to run inside windows 3.1 myself, and have never bothered to get sighted help to handle that, since it's just always been something I never bothered deleting, partly since it's not all that large in file size. However, wonder if something like this tiny talk screenreader might work/run within it - but, again, wouldn't be 100% sure how to copy it across to virtual file system, since while I can sort out VMWare file shares with virtual versions of windows, really don't know exactly how dos would even try to handle that...smile Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos hi thomas, do you have speakup installed in ubuntu, or do you use archLinux? I like speakup. it is the closest thing I can come to using true DOS. On 12/18/2014 11:39 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Honestly, I'm not surprised. The only way I have ever managed to run any old Dos applications etc the last few years is by using Dosemu with Speakup. It isn't a perfect solution, but it does work. I have managed to play some games and run certain apps like Wordperfect 5.1 with Speakup. However, that requires a Linux distribution like Vinux, Ubuntu, or some other distribution with Speakup, Espeakup, and Dosemu. Otherwise I don't think you are going to find a better solution for running old Dos games and apps. I've already tried running copies of Jaws for Dos etc in Dosbox before all to no success. Cheers!On 12/18/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hey tiny talk with
Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos
The problem there is that eSpeak is being implemented by the com port emulator, so as far as dos is concerned, it's communicating with a serial port, which is being handled by com0com and ASAP talking to each other, literally. But, in terms of eSpeak, it's really so cross platform it's crazy - a little while ago, I played around with a javascript-based, webpage-hosted instance of eSpeak - real issue there was that it needed certain server-side permissions to create output files, since it was really more like a javascript version of the .wav file generating eSpeak utility, and not really a real-time synthesizer as such, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos I am so very happy we can use dos with espeak even if its just virtualized. I wish we could somehow take it out of its virtualized environment and run it as a native OS. maybe take the native OS, freeDos, and make it use asap with espeak. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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But also meant to mention, there are things like python-based dos emulators out there - last time checked most of them seemed inactive/abandoned, but, maybe I'll have a look around again. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos The problem there is that eSpeak is being implemented by the com port emulator, so as far as dos is concerned, it's communicating with a serial port, which is being handled by com0com and ASAP talking to each other, literally. But, in terms of eSpeak, it's really so cross platform it's crazy - a little while ago, I played around with a javascript-based, webpage-hosted instance of eSpeak - real issue there was that it needed certain server-side permissions to create output files, since it was really more like a javascript version of the .wav file generating eSpeak utility, and not really a real-time synthesizer as such, but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... - Original Message - From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tiny talk in dos I am so very happy we can use dos with espeak even if its just virtualized. I wish we could somehow take it out of its virtualized environment and run it as a native OS. maybe take the native OS, freeDos, and make it use asap with espeak. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi all, What are your experiences with the fs navigator combined with the Microsoft's flight simulator 2004? Best! Milos Przic Twitter: MilosPrzic Skype: Milosh-hs --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
