Re: [Audyssey] TRAV, Self Driving Car

2015-04-02 Thread Ian McNamara
That was really funny. I loved it a lot. Thanks for sharing.

Ian McNamara

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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread darren harris
Hi tom,

That's really funny you say that because when it comes to me entering in my
credit card number I never even think about the number pad. I just type it
in with the numbers across the top. I hardly give the number pad a glance.
Weird really considering logically it would be far quicker to do it that
way.

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Hi Charles,

Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to enter
several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a date or time
I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things like phone numbers,
credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use the number pad because it
is quicker and more efficient. That is one reason I prefer laptops with a
number pad on them.

On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started 
 working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that 
 I didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over 
 my lunch

 period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles,

Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to
enter several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a
date or time I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things
like phone numbers, credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use
the number pad because it is quicker and more efficient. That is one
reason I prefer laptops with a number pad on them.

On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
 working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that I
 didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over my lunch

 period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread dark
Most laptops have an option like hold the windows key and the right side of 
the keyboard becomes a numberpad (I know Toshiba do), however it's not an 
option I use myself as I said sinse I'm actually more used to living without 
the pad, still it should be there on most laptops if you want it.


All the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast 
and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even 
the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?



Charles, it might be worth a quick Google to see whether there's any
free software for Windows that can simulate an imbedded numpad on your
laptop. The idea sprang to mind because I use the numpad a lot over on
the Mac side, and Apple stopped imbedding them a few years back, but
there are a few solid options to get that functionality even on
machines that weren't intended to have it in the first place.

Good luck

Scott

On 4/2/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Since I took the time to learn the number pad, I now use it all the time.
Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have one.  I've got a conventional 
external


keyboard hooked to it when using it at home, though, so I do have the 
number


pad available.  It does make sense to use it for entering numbers.  After
all, that's what it's for!  And, seeing as it is right there at your 
right

hand, why not use it?

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished,


you! really! are! finished!
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?



Hi Charles,

Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to
enter several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a
date or time I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things
like phone numbers, credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use
the number pad because it is quicker and more efficient. That is one
reason I prefer laptops with a number pad on them.

On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that I
didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over my
lunch

period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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you! really! are! finished!


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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread Scott Chesworth
Charles, it might be worth a quick Google to see whether there's any
free software for Windows that can simulate an imbedded numpad on your
laptop. The idea sprang to mind because I use the numpad a lot over on
the Mac side, and Apple stopped imbedding them a few years back, but
there are a few solid options to get that functionality even on
machines that weren't intended to have it in the first place.

Good luck

Scott

On 4/2/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Since I took the time to learn the number pad, I now use it all the time.
 Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have one.  I've got a conventional external

 keyboard hooked to it when using it at home, though, so I do have the number

 pad available.  It does make sense to use it for entering numbers.  After
 all, that's what it's for!  And, seeing as it is right there at your right
 hand, why not use it?

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished,

 you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?


 Hi Charles,

 Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
 Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to
 enter several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a
 date or time I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things
 like phone numbers, credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use
 the number pad because it is quicker and more efficient. That is one
 reason I prefer laptops with a number pad on them.

 On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
 working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that I
 didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over my
 lunch

 period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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 you! really! are! finished!

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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread Scott Chesworth
It's usually the f/n key rather than Windows, but in my experience,
this is the case way less often than it used to be. It's to the point
now where I'm pleasantly surprised when I see a laptop that has a
numpad function. Just the way things are progressing I guess.

Scott

On 4/2/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Most laptops have an option like hold the windows key and the right side of

 the keyboard becomes a numberpad (I know Toshiba do), however it's not an
 option I use myself as I said sinse I'm actually more used to living without

 the pad, still it should be there on most laptops if you want it.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast

 and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even
 the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 8:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?


 Charles, it might be worth a quick Google to see whether there's any
 free software for Windows that can simulate an imbedded numpad on your
 laptop. The idea sprang to mind because I use the numpad a lot over on
 the Mac side, and Apple stopped imbedding them a few years back, but
 there are a few solid options to get that functionality even on
 machines that weren't intended to have it in the first place.

 Good luck

 Scott

 On 4/2/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Since I took the time to learn the number pad, I now use it all the
 time.
 Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have one.  I've got a conventional
 external

 keyboard hooked to it when using it at home, though, so I do have the
 number

 pad available.  It does make sense to use it for entering numbers.
 After
 all, that's what it's for!  And, seeing as it is right there at your
 right
 hand, why not use it?

 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
 finished,

 you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?


 Hi Charles,

 Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
 Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to
 enter several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a
 date or time I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things
 like phone numbers, credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use
 the number pad because it is quicker and more efficient. That is one
 reason I prefer laptops with a number pad on them.

 On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
 working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that
 I
 didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over my
 lunch

 period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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 you! really! are! finished!

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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread Charles Rivard
I'm not sure that it is actually progress.  I think it's a step in the wrong 
direction.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?



It's usually the f/n key rather than Windows, but in my experience,
this is the case way less often than it used to be. It's to the point
now where I'm pleasantly surprised when I see a laptop that has a
numpad function. Just the way things are progressing I guess.

Scott

On 4/2/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Most laptops have an option like hold the windows key and the right side 
of


the keyboard becomes a numberpad (I know Toshiba do), however it's not an
option I use myself as I said sinse I'm actually more used to living 
without


the pad, still it should be there on most laptops if you want it.

All the best,

Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is 
vast


and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than 
even

the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
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From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?



Charles, it might be worth a quick Google to see whether there's any
free software for Windows that can simulate an imbedded numpad on your
laptop. The idea sprang to mind because I use the numpad a lot over on
the Mac side, and Apple stopped imbedding them a few years back, but
there are a few solid options to get that functionality even on
machines that weren't intended to have it in the first place.

Good luck

Scott

On 4/2/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Since I took the time to learn the number pad, I now use it all the
time.
Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have one.  I've got a conventional
external

keyboard hooked to it when using it at home, though, so I do have the
number

pad available.  It does make sense to use it for entering numbers.
After
all, that's what it's for!  And, seeing as it is right there at your
right
hand, why not use it?

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're
finished,

you! really! are! finished!
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From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?



Hi Charles,

Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to
enter several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a
date or time I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things
like phone numbers, credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use
the number pad because it is quicker and more efficient. That is one
reason I prefer laptops with a number pad on them.

On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that
I
didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over 
my

lunch

period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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you! really! are! finished!


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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread dark

I would never use the numberpad myself.

For most of my time through school, I always used  laptops which didn't have 
the numberpad. Then, when I actually got a desktop,  I found it better to 
use supernova's default numberpad layout for commands than the function key 
layout I'd been using sinse then I no longer had to  keep turning the keys 
off to use the f keys in prorams.


so, it actualy seems weerd to me to use the numberpad for anything that is 
not a control in a program,  since I've had laptops without it, or if I'm on 
a desktop, that is where all my supernova  keys are.


It felt very od in terraformers having to use the numberpad to add the 
sounds for those puzzles.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?



Hi tom,

That's really funny you say that because when it comes to me entering in 
my

credit card number I never even think about the number pad. I just type it
in with the numbers across the top. I hardly give the number pad a glance.
Weird really considering logically it would be far quicker to do it that
way.

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 02 April 2015 10:19
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

Hi Charles,

Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to enter
several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a date or 
time
I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things like phone 
numbers,

credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use the number pad because it
is quicker and more efficient. That is one reason I prefer laptops with a
number pad on them.

On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that
I didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over
my lunch

period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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Re: [Audyssey] classic pipe on normal difficulty

2015-04-02 Thread Teresa Cochran
It's been a long time since I've played it, but what I do remember is that you 
just have to be insanely fast. That seems to be the key thing that I noticed.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:22 PM, nicol ni...@vodamail.co.za wrote:
 
 Hi all
 I'm playing classic pipe on the normal difficulty now.
 I've beaten it on the easy difficulty in the USA.
 Now I'm repairing pipes in canada.
 The last 2 levels is just impossible to beat.
 I drown each time in the water, the water comes down too impossibly fast.
 Has anybody beaten classic pipe on the canada or normal difficulty?
 I'd like to hear your impressions.
 Bfn
 Nicol
 
 
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[Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread Eleanor
Weighing in on the typing issue, I agree with both Tim and Dark. One 
point that must be made though is that touch typing really needs a 
physical keyboard, not just a virtual keyboard.  Correct finger 
positioning is necessary and without tactile clues, it is difficult to 
do.  Since keyboards can be used with tablets, someone can touch type, 
using a keyboard on a tablet.  I am a touch typist and have to hunt and 
peck on a virtual keyboard, which is where this whole discussion started 
- i.e. are we moving away from desktops.  Perhaps a Surface Pro type of 
device is an example of the direction that we are going?


Eleanor Robinson
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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread Charles Rivard
Since I took the time to learn the number pad, I now use it all the time. 
Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have one.  I've got a conventional external 
keyboard hooked to it when using it at home, though, so I do have the number 
pad available.  It does make sense to use it for entering numbers.  After 
all, that's what it's for!  And, seeing as it is right there at your right 
hand, why not use it?


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Hi Charles,

Interesting you had never used the number pad until you worked there.
Seems to me that would be the logical choice for anyone wanting to
enter several numbers at a time. Sure, for quickly writing down say a
date or time I'll use the top row of the keyboard but for most things
like phone numbers, credit card numbers, or any long number I'll use
the number pad because it is quicker and more efficient. That is one
reason I prefer laptops with a number pad on them.

On 4/1/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:

Odd that you mention the number pad.  I never used it until I started
working there.  Someone asked me why I didn't use it, and I said that I
didn't use it because I just never had worked with it before.  Over my 
lunch


period, I experimented and learned to use it.

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Re: [Audyssey] xbox accessibility?

2015-04-02 Thread dark

Hi eleanor.

That is precisely why the first device I bought for my Iphone the day I got 
it (well after a sturdy case), was a bluetooth keyboard, although as I said 
I frequently wind up using dictation or flicking through the on screen 
keyboard because unfortunately the keyboard is a bit large to carry around 
with me so I only use it at my flat.


I agree keyboards will stay for typing speed if nothing else, however my 
point was more about the fact that as typing becomes sort of a specialist 
professional thing things like keyboard shortcuts in programs are falling 
off, and we'll likely end up with a situation where keyboards just! are used 
for typing and most control will be touch screen controls, or possibly 
dictation which will have it's own set of access issues and requirements in 
the future.


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Weighing in on the typing issue, I agree with both Tim and Dark. One point 
that must be made though is that touch typing really needs a physical 
keyboard, not just a virtual keyboard.  Correct finger positioning is 
necessary and without tactile clues, it is difficult to do.  Since 
keyboards can be used with tablets, someone can touch type, using a 
keyboard on a tablet.  I am a touch typist and have to hunt and peck on a 
virtual keyboard, which is where this whole discussion started - i.e. are 
we moving away from desktops.  Perhaps a Surface Pro type of device is an 
example of the direction that we are going?


Eleanor Robinson
7-128 Software

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