Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
-Thomas, See the programme edsharp from www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe. This programme uses a free installer, is open source and does chec for updates. Is this the kind of functionality you are looking for? Pranav --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Hi, Thanks. Actually, I did manage to get some help from the Inno Setup guys and it now detects the .NET Framework version and downloads the setup file from my server if needed. Still working on the DirectX angle, but I am getting the installer upgraded to do what I need it to do. Smile. Pranav Lal wrote: -Thomas, See the programme edsharp from www.empowermentzone.com/edsetup.exe. This programme uses a free installer, is open source and does chec for updates. Is this the kind of functionality you are looking for? Pranav --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
hi. Or you could have the installer check to see if the required components are installed, if not, download them and install them before finishing installation. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates Hello gamers, I've noticed over the passed three or four days several of you have had difficulties getting Microsoft DirectX installed. Most of it is confusion over how the setup asks you to unpack files to the temp directory and than manually run dxsetup.exe after the files are unzipped. With this mind I want to switch to an installlation that is easier and more intuative for you gamers in the future. I'm wondering wich of the following you want me to try. 1. Instead of having gamers download and install the full runtime i can use the Microsoft web setup tool which will detect which DirectX components need upgraded or installed and will do this live from the internet. The good news is it is very easy to use, not confusing, but you should have a high speed internet connection to use it. 2. I can repack the installer with winzip self-extractor and force it to run dxsetup.exe, and that might resolved the problem with the temp directory. 3. Perhaps rather than either method I should just pack the Managed DirectX components in the MOTA installer and forget about the rest. I'm not sure if there are any compatibility issues with doing this, but I do know the Microsoft license agreement frowns on doing this. On the good side though is you'll get the files with install. Any thoughts, suggestions, or comments? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Hi Tom, As an opinion, I would pick choice 3. Most computer gameCD usually come with the proper direct X required to run it. If 3 isn't possible then I would go for choice number 2, for the sake of those who do not have the faster speeds. al inal Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates Hello gamers, I've noticed over the passed three or four days several of you have had difficulties getting Microsoft DirectX installed. Most of it is confusion over how the setup asks you to unpack files to the temp directory and than manually run dxsetup.exe after the files are unzipped. With this mind I want to switch to an installlation that is easier and more intuative for you gamers in the future. I'm wondering wich of the following you want me to try. 1. Instead of having gamers download and install the full runtime i can use the Microsoft web setup tool which will detect which DirectX components need upgraded or installed and will do this live from the internet. The good news is it is very easy to use, not confusing, but you should have a high speed internet connection to use it. 2. I can repack the installer with winzip self-extractor and force it to run dxsetup.exe, and that might resolved the problem with the temp directory. 3. Perhaps rather than either method I should just pack the Managed DirectX components in the MOTA installer and forget about the rest. I'm not sure if there are any compatibility issues with doing this, but I do know the Microsoft license agreement frowns on doing this. On the good side though is you'll get the files with install. Any thoughts, suggestions, or comments? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
I too would vote for option 1. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Hi Aaron, That's a bit of a problem. Inno Setup doesn't have a detection and install from web type of feature to my knowledge. I know Microsoft Advanced Setup Installer does, but it is also extremely expensive. I think it is possible the only way to resolve some of these issues is to stop using the free setup tools and bite the bulllet and buy Advanced Setup Installer which has what I need to detect components like this. Valiant8086 wrote: hi. Or you could have the installer check to see if the required components are installed, if not, download them and install them before finishing installation. - Original Message - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
In short, OUCH!! If you're gonna buy it, I sure hope it'll be of use in other games you produce in the future?? --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates Hi Aaron, That's a bit of a problem. Inno Setup doesn't have a detection and install from web type of feature to my knowledge. I know Microsoft Advanced Setup Installer does, but it is also extremely expensive. I think it is possible the only way to resolve some of these issues is to stop using the free setup tools and bite the bulllet and buy Advanced Setup Installer which has what I need to detect components like this. Valiant8086 wrote: hi. Or you could have the installer check to see if the required components are installed, if not, download them and install them before finishing installation. - Original Message - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
I have no doubt Advanced Setup Installer will come in handy for several software products. It is just that it comes with a giant price tag. Though, if it resolves the tech nightmare we are having figuring who has what it is worth it long term. They will get a lovely error saying upgrade this to continue, or else game won't work. In fact, it will perform web setup stuff for you if components are missing so it should make it as easy as cake. Er...Easy as pie. Charles Rivard wrote: In short, OUCH!! If you're gonna buy it, I sure hope it'll be of use in other games you produce in the future?? --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Hello gamers, I've noticed over the passed three or four days several of you have had difficulties getting Microsoft DirectX installed. Most of it is confusion over how the setup asks you to unpack files to the temp directory and than manually run dxsetup.exe after the files are unzipped. With this mind I want to switch to an installlation that is easier and more intuative for you gamers in the future. I'm wondering wich of the following you want me to try. 1. Instead of having gamers download and install the full runtime i can use the Microsoft web setup tool which will detect which DirectX components need upgraded or installed and will do this live from the internet. The good news is it is very easy to use, not confusing, but you should have a high speed internet connection to use it. 2. I can repack the installer with winzip self-extractor and force it to run dxsetup.exe, and that might resolved the problem with the temp directory. 3. Perhaps rather than either method I should just pack the Managed DirectX components in the MOTA installer and forget about the rest. I'm not sure if there are any compatibility issues with doing this, but I do know the Microsoft license agreement frowns on doing this. On the good side though is you'll get the files with install. Any thoughts, suggestions, or comments? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
My vote is the dxweb installer. the initial file is small, and it is automatic. Most people seem to have broadband. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates Hello gamers, I've noticed over the passed three or four days several of you have had difficulties getting Microsoft DirectX installed. Most of it is confusion over how the setup asks you to unpack files to the temp directory and than manually run dxsetup.exe after the files are unzipped. With this mind I want to switch to an installlation that is easier and more intuative for you gamers in the future. I'm wondering wich of the following you want me to try. 1. Instead of having gamers download and install the full runtime i can use the Microsoft web setup tool which will detect which DirectX components need upgraded or installed and will do this live from the internet. The good news is it is very easy to use, not confusing, but you should have a high speed internet connection to use it. 2. I can repack the installer with winzip self-extractor and force it to run dxsetup.exe, and that might resolved the problem with the temp directory. 3. Perhaps rather than either method I should just pack the Managed DirectX components in the MOTA installer and forget about the rest. I'm not sure if there are any compatibility issues with doing this, but I do know the Microsoft license agreement frowns on doing this. On the good side though is you'll get the files with install. Any thoughts, suggestions, or comments? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Iether 1 and 2. I actually would love option 1. Direct x is sort of a big file. Not huge by any means but no slouch. I'm wondering if the live installer would just update files, but we wouldn't have to download such a big file, would we? Or does it still download the hole thing? - If just a few files needed updating. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates Hello gamers, I've noticed over the passed three or four days several of you have had difficulties getting Microsoft DirectX installed. Most of it is confusion over how the setup asks you to unpack files to the temp directory and than manually run dxsetup.exe after the files are unzipped. With this mind I want to switch to an installlation that is easier and more intuative for you gamers in the future. I'm wondering wich of the following you want me to try. 1. Instead of having gamers download and install the full runtime i can use the Microsoft web setup tool which will detect which DirectX components need upgraded or installed and will do this live from the internet. The good news is it is very easy to use, not confusing, but you should have a high speed internet connection to use it. 2. I can repack the installer with winzip self-extractor and force it to run dxsetup.exe, and that might resolved the problem with the temp directory. 3. Perhaps rather than either method I should just pack the Managed DirectX components in the MOTA installer and forget about the rest. I'm not sure if there are any compatibility issues with doing this, but I do know the Microsoft license agreement frowns on doing this. On the good side though is you'll get the files with install. Any thoughts, suggestions, or comments? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Hi, Smile. Actually, that is one advantage of using the web setup tool. It is much much smaller. The setup file is like 1 MB or there abouts, and it downloads only what is needed from the internet. So depending on what you exactly need you might need a couple of MB of stuff or the entire 300 MB. Just depends on how out of date your directX install is. Good thing here is the setup can be packed with the game if necessary since it is so small. Constantine wrote: Iether 1 and 2. I actually would love option 1. Direct x is sort of a big file. Not huge by any means but no slouch. I'm wondering if the live installer would just update files, but we wouldn't have to download such a big file, would we? Or does it still download the hole thing? - If just a few files needed updating. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
I would prefer using the web setup tool based on the answer you gave to the question you replied to. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates Hi, Smile. Actually, that is one advantage of using the web setup tool. It is much much smaller. The setup file is like 1 MB or there abouts, and it downloads only what is needed from the internet. So depending on what you exactly need you might need a couple of MB of stuff or the entire 300 MB. Just depends on how out of date your directX install is. Good thing here is the setup can be packed with the game if necessary since it is so small. Constantine wrote: Iether 1 and 2. I actually would love option 1. Direct x is sort of a big file. Not huge by any means but no slouch. I'm wondering if the live installer would just update files, but we wouldn't have to download such a big file, would we? Or does it still download the hole thing? - If just a few files needed updating. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Well since I have 3 computers on this home network its easier to share and deploy. its also good for systems that say I install the system on then I load all the programs, and all offline updates before I load the security stuff on it, connect to the net and get the updates. On a patch site the author did not put the latest dotnet because you had to get extra updates from windows update, the update was 248mb with everything, but if I got the main part of the update which was 231mb I only had to get 16mb from windowsupdate. At 04:47 p.m. 28/02/2009, you wrote: Hi, Smile. Actually, that is one advantage of using the web setup tool. It is much much smaller. The setup file is like 1 MB or there abouts, and it downloads only what is needed from the internet. So depending on what you exactly need you might need a couple of MB of stuff or the entire 300 MB. Just depends on how out of date your directX install is. Good thing here is the setup can be packed with the game if necessary since it is so small. Constantine wrote: Iether 1 and 2. I actually would love option 1. Direct x is sort of a big file. Not huge by any means but no slouch. I'm wondering if the live installer would just update files, but we wouldn't have to download such a big file, would we? Or does it still download the hole thing? - If just a few files needed updating. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Installing DirectX Updates
Hi Charles, That, or simply include the manage components with the game. Adding just the managed components won't take up much extra install space or make the setup file much larger. Provided the person is running a fairly recent DirectX, released in the last year or so, the components won't need anything else but the .NET Framework just like the game. Charles Rivard wrote: I would prefer using the web setup tool based on the answer you gave to the question you replied to. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
